What is God's role with Born Disabled?
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Emotional pleas, dramatization, exaggerations do not count, nor does scripture that is used out of context at best in order to scare people into accepting one's claims because anything considered holy has a persuasion power of +10 with many. Especially when there is talk of hellfire. Where have I seen this method before.
The MM does exactly the same emotionally scaring the patient first, and then pleading with them to take treatment as early as possible and continue all through you life as though they are interested in their lives - indeed the exaggerated dramatisation.
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Belief in the God inspired heartfelt wish is a core lie; absolute belief in God is absurdity to the core. Allah is hearing it. Great!
That's what I'm going to do next. Really. Instead of trying to reason and explain in my posts, I'm going to start posting twisted little nuggets which have nothing to do with what is said, but everything to do with trying to make the other out to be a 'disbelieving atheist'.
Once again and for the record. There is a difference between belief in God and what you're saying. If that is ALL you were saying NO ONE who claims to believe would disagree.
I agree Allah is hearing. Repent.
No. It needs the manifest Truth to have hope in the least. I am no faith healer. I am teaching others how to have faith in God Alone. To have 100% faith in God and 0% faith in the majority human ways.
You can't teach them to have faith. God does that. We can show them the many different ways there are to God. This isn't about FAITH, it's about YOU. Why do you stubbornly refuse to admit that your method involves a great deal of faith, belief and trust in YOU knowing what God says...when anyone can read the responses you gave to others on your website like some kind of mufti knowing the heart of God. Were you telling the woman to pray for herself without involving yourself? No. Some in your defense would leap up and say, well other people pray for others as well. I need not remind anyone that it would have zero effect if God does not intend to heal the person. If that is the case, then instead of calling it a foolproof cure, for God's sake and your own sake...call it for what it is. "It may work or it may not like other things you can try, only God knows." Few would have issues with that.
Obviously you won't say that, as that opens up other methods to be just as effective depending on various factors. This is wrong.
This is exactly the doctors would resort to when all their efforts fail and the patients have been ditched; they would even say to the patients "Don't lose hope; we only prescribe; God cures; so don't blame us for God having ditched you; after all we shall die one day!"
What do you resort to when your 'patients' die? The time was nigh? Instead of piecemeal answering choice quotes where you can once again ignore the majority of what is said...perhaps you should take another approach. That of actually understanding what the picture is with the people who disagree with what you say rather than calling them people of the lie as in your first response to me.
A lay man is not bereft of cognition.
And theories of assumption is required only for those who mix contrary evidences and cooked up statistics to strengthen a lie. Eg. The practitioners of MM. One shall definitely feel for the gullible public who cannot understand a thing of the magical words of MM but blindly following the paraphernalia of the medical field.
and whenever I preview, another post. Fine, let's do this. One can definitely feel for the gullible in your case as well. The ones who end up believing that God must work through drfazl to the exclusion of every other method as he knows what we must do to save ourselves. You don't really need a website like you have. Just a page which says Leave everything to God. Pray to him yourselves and you will be saved. Do not use any other method, stop do not pass at Go. Or you will not pass, ever, it is known in the scripture." End of. An img of Gandalf would be fitting right below the above, preferably in the middle of the page.This isn't a radical view drfazl? You asking everyone to ditch medical science? Why only doctors? It is hypocritical to only keep it there. Why not airplanes? God never mentions those only ships. Hence that is it. Flying in them is haram and we deserve our fitting end if there is an accident because we were prideful enough to believe we knew better. Crazy.
When are the nations and W.H.O. going to incorporate all the medical systems such as ayurvedha, sidha, acupincture, naturopathy, herbal remedy, faith healing and so on - available on earth under one roof, giving equal importance to all of them in every hospital and order all the governments to follow suit. And when the government agencies shall give insurance claims for the people who choose the system of their choice for health care?
Why should that be a grievance when you don't believe any method other than prayer works anyways? What is going on here? Is this really a grievance of yours after what you've said yourself?The MM does exactly the same emotionally scaring the patient first, and then pleading with them to take treatment as early as possible and continue all through you life as though they are interested in their lives - indeed the exaggerated dramatisation.
So, you're saying you're just like what you think they do. Good to know. Fight fire with fire and all that eh.There may or may not be. But definitely there is no need to think even of MM.
Why? When have you actually proved them wrong with your evidence other than Allah will save us? -
What we know of why morning sickness occurs according to 'modern medicine'? Changing levels of hormones plus other factors etc.
Then why can' they cure it. Why is a simple morning sickness had been made to complicate to a grave life threatening situation to both the mother and the child?
Why should we believe now their magical terrorising words such as hormonal imbalance, and then the other factors as if they know all the factors while intact they know nothing?
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Then why can' they cure it. Why is a simple morning sickness had been made to complicate to a grave life threatening situation to both the mother and the child?
Why should we believe now their magical terrorising words such as hormonal imbalance, and then the other factors as if they know all the factors while intact they know nothing?
So the same hormones that are needed for the growing fetus should be forcibly removed somehow because morning sickness is unnatural and must go? Where and what is your evidence for this? Are you saying all mothers have a grave life threatening illness which is called morning sickness and all the doctors advise them to abort to save their lives? What on earth are you talking about? Allow me to help you with your next topic menopause. That too is one's liver failing? Why not make it pancrea's just for variety? What about thyroid issues? Must be the lungs.
If no one had ever been cured by a process of trying to identify the cause and how to best deal with it, you may have had a point and everyone could cavort around doing absolutely nothing because God never gave us the means to understand the world and how it works even to a certain degree. Unfortunately for you, cures DO exist based on processes of identification and their best solutions which may change with what we know over time. Everyone who believes agrees all this involves God. No one is claiming doctors are god or that trying to use methods other than prayer are evil except YOU.
What a balanced view!
Drfazl talks about balance? Bring out the cameras, this is breaking news! Perhaps, you're not familiar with reasoning, no matter. We will continue regardless, it's a thankless job.
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That's what I'm going to do next. Really. Instead of trying to reason and explain in my posts, I'm going to start posting twisted little nuggets which have nothing to do with what is said, but everything to do with trying to make the other out to be a 'disbelieving atheist'.
Once again and for the record. There is a difference between belief in God and what you're saying. If that is ALL you were saying NO ONE who claims to believe would disagree.
I agree Allah is hearing. Repent.
It is not that what you are going to do next. You have been doing all the while the same.
Kindly give the difference between what I am saying and what belief in God is; and how and where I am differing.
Allah is Intent in hearing.
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You can't teach them to have faith. God does that. We can show them the many different ways there are to God. This isn't about FAITH, it's about YOU. Why do you stubbornly refuse to admit that your method involves a great deal of faith, belief and trust in YOU
You cannot teach? Read 1094. Your parents taught you how to pray God. And you teach your kids to how to pray God. Is not it? And many different ways to God? Through temples and synagogues and churches? Or God's way is the one and only way? And can you explain the one way to God? When did I say believe in Me? Or are you lying? Show me the line where I had asked people to turn to me and not to God?
God is Listening.
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I need not remind anyone that it would have zero effect if God does not intend to heal the person. If that is the case, then instead of calling it a foolproof cure, for God's sake and your own sake...call it for what it is. "It may work or it may not like other things you can try, only God knows." Few would have issues with that.
If you had not forgotten this Truth, you would not associate man mad medical assumptive knowledge to God's fool proof Almighty Power. If you had read all my posts which I am sure you had not, you would have understood what 'fool proof cure' means. Please have some patience to read before writing.
Please go.
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What do you resort to when your 'patients' die?
The same thing what the MM would do when their patients die. Before death they would say pray to God. But in my case they are already in the hands of God. They are not in my hands. Read fool proof cure and. Take time.
God is with the Patient. This is a basic teaching.
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Peace,
Teach Faith is not possible, but you can teach methods and ways of thinking which may lead to God's Nearness and Guidance. You can teach someone to be a muslim, but the Faith part is between God and the individual.
God bless you
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This isn't a radical view drfazl? You asking everyone to ditch medical science? Why only doctors?
No. Very practical view. Do not rely on doctors who would finally say, "Pray to God!" At that point of time God might not forgive us. S turn to Him from the start. This is faithful view. 418; 4085.
Care to read Quran? God sees what is in your heart and what you speak openly.
It is hypocritical to only keep it there. Why not airplanes? God never mentions those only ships. Hence that is it. Flying in them is haram and we deserve our fitting end if there is an accident because we were prideful enough to believe we knew better. Crazy.
People with accidents die at the "emergency accident care" of MM with brain death. And organs are stolen or traded. So what is the big deal?
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You cannot teach? Read 1094. Your parents taught you how to pray God. And you teach your kids to how to pray God. Is not it? And many different ways to God? Through temples and synagogues and churches? Or God's way is the one and only way? And can you explain the one way to God? When did I say believe in Me? Or are you lying? Show me the line where I had asked people to turn to me and not to God?
God is Listening.
Excellent. God Bless You. You Grow Strong and Strong since You are Guided by Almighty
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No. Very practical view. Do not rely on doctors who would finally say, "Pray to God!" At that point of time God might not forgive us. S turn to Him from the start. This is faithful view. 418; 4085.
Care to read Quran? God sees what is in your heart and what you speak openly.
People with accidents die at the "emergency accident care" of MM with brain death. And organs are stolen or traded. So what is the big deal?
Great... No one Question Allah's Words... Excellent
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Flying in them is haram and we deserve our fitting end if there is an accident because we were prideful enough to believe we knew better. Crazy.
No. Sulaiman was carried by the air when Allah made the air become subservient to him. And Allah's Grace is not forbidden to any one. Seek such guidance from Allah. This is teaching the Faith. Yet the airplane we have now in no way could be equal to what Allah granted for Sulaiman. When you hit the air pocket in the high sky you would drop like a dead log. You cannot command the air. Do you get it?
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It is not that what you are going to do next. You have been doing all the while the same.
Kindly give the difference between what I am saying and what belief in God is; and how and where I am differing.
Allah is Intent in hearing.
Ooh and drfazl is on the attack again after once again ignoring posts, points and reasoning altogether. I don't feel like indulging your feigned ignorance on what that difference is when it's something that is in every post and is perfectly clear. Your insistence that belief in God means avoiding doctors, medicine and anything whatsoever other than prayer. Anyone who believes in going to a doctor to get a cure is committing an unforgivable sin. Anyone who uses medicine is prideful and evil and knows better than God. There is no evidence for this. This is a huge claim.
You cannot teach? Read 1094. Your parents taught you how to pray God. And you teach your kids to how to pray God. Is not it? And many different ways to God? Through temples and synagogues and churches? Or God's way is the one and only way? And can you explain the one way to God? When did I say believe in Me? Or are you lying? Show me the line where I had asked people to turn to me and not to God?
God is Listening.
Already answered. No, you cannot teach faith. I'm not surprised that you don't get what it looks like where you're a mufti in a q&a session. Drfazl what should I do for my ear ache? 2 recitations every day and call me after a week.
If you had not forgotten this Truth, you would not associate man mad medical assumptive knowledge to God's fool proof Almighty Power. If you had read all my posts which I am sure you had not, you would have understood what 'fool proof cure' means. Please have some patience to read before writing.
Please go.
Nobody is associating man mad medical assumptive knowledge to God's fool proof Almighty Power. I keep repeating this constantly. Please have some patience while reading your posts? Really, now the gloves come off. I've READ your non evidenced claims over and over in different threads in different ways, it takes me 45 minutes to respond to most of these posts because I want to be sure I've understood. Can you say the same Mr. Piecemeal Responder Who Asks After Days Of Posts Explaining The Difference What The Difference Is Between Belief In God And His Own Belief? This just shows how self absorbed you are and how much you've read of anything.
The same thing what the MM would do when their patients die. Before death they would say pray to God. But in my case they are already in the hands of God. They are not in my hands. Read fool proof cure and. Take time.
God is with the Patient. This is a basic teaching.
Everything is in the hands of God. Whether they're with doctors or not. You forget that God is in full control. Read the quran and take your time. God is not with those who make claims insisting what belief in God comprises of according to their own opinions.
No. Sulaiman was carried by the air when Allah made the air become subservient to him. And Allah's Grace is not forbidden to any one. Seek such guidance from Allah. This is teaching the Faith. Yet the airplane we have now in no way could be equal to what Allah granted for Sulaiman. When you hit the air pocket in the high sky you would drop like a dead log. You cannot command the air. Do you get it?
Here we go again. This is not teaching the Faith. Who is saying we command air except you? You think people believe doctors are god and those that ride in airplanes think they are commanding air. No one is saying this. It's evident in your posts that even basic reasoning is suffering.
No. Very practical view. Do not rely on doctors who would finally say, "Pray to God!" At that point of time God might not forgive us. S turn to Him from the start. This is faithful view. 418; 4085.
Care to read Quran? God sees what is in your heart and what you speak openly.
People with accidents die at the "emergency accident care" of MM with brain death. And organs are stolen or traded. So what is the big deal?
Stop with the useless tactics and give some evidence of your claims besides picking irrelevant verses based on one or two words. Let us search the quran for repentance and death and voila. How is this even responding? Who said the doctors told patients to pray before they die? 3 guesses, oh what the heck, it was once again YOU. Who is saying people at emergency accident care have their organs stolen and that is no big deal? YOU. You constantly disrupt with something no one is saying. They're called red herrings and avoiding the subject. This is not even something subtle that no one can see except a few.
And you may want to call Jango off. It's clear he thinks you're a very hardy plant but this is neither the time nor the place.
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Hello Dr, I am 32 year old and married for 2 years. I am having severe body ache all the time (around neck,collar bone,around shoulder, arms, back and in the foot joints if I stand for long time) for past 3-4 years. I was working in an IT field for more than 10 years and I quit my job post my delivery. We are blessed with a girl baby. Due to this pain, I am not able to breath freely, not getting energy to do routine household works. I also worry that i am not able to take cae of my baby well.People around me say many reasons, it could be due to Calcium deficiency,Bone deficiency, low Hemoclobin content, muscle stiffness, weakness in the body etc., and advising me to take treatment for the same. But I have ignored those and am sincerely praying only God to cure for me and I strongly believe that he would help me to releive from this stress one day. I realised the presence of God and all his great blessings after I met you and you showed me the path to him. From then onwards, I have left everything with him and seeking his guidence only from him to lead my rest of life. I had gone through many hurdles since my childhood for food, place, clothes, education etc.,With the blessings of God, I was able to provide the basic needs of my parents and my siblings and recovered from the sufferings. Now, I want to get -rid off my problem soon and stay healthy to take care of my family and my child well. Please do share your suggestions/help/advice on your part. Thanks a lot !! --By Nasira
CategoryI have prayed for you. Let me know from this moment how you feel about all your pain and post here after a week. Allah alone is sufficient for you to cure your problems from now onwards. Pray for patience for God is with those who are patient.
May Allah Bless Us All
Salaam drfazl,
Above was copied from your site www.foolproofcure.net. Now, I have some questions for you?
If you are saying going to doctors is associating doctors with God, was not this lady associating you with God? So, why were you helping her? Why didn't you ask her not to seek help from you but from God? Instead you simply prayed for her and console her that she will feel better from that moment onwards... This is absurd for me...
peace
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Drfazl what should I do for my ear ache? 2 recitations every day and call me after a week.
Do not worry savage_carrot, I will pray for you. let me know in few days how you feel. brickwall brickwall brickwall
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Why, I feel better already! Droneandonly you're my only hope ;D