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What is God's role with Born Disabled?

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    zone
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    Peace Zone

    In a nutshell all diseases are the result of emotions which culminates when we loose our PEACE.

    This is better explained in the below link

    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605160.0

    Peace newmoon.

    After reading the article by drfazl that you posted, I can?t help it but to conclude it is Sufism at the highest degree.

    In a nutshell
    To my earthly dimensional creative understanding, all forms of knowledge that the God created in the present universe, are earthly profane. We observe the ayats in the heavens and the earth and whatever within us in order to discover the meanings and the laws embedded in His creations (the God?s knowledge) to safeguard our personal, fellow humans and crops to orderly live and grow to our fullest potential to be in accordance to the way of Allah. Thus, we begin with the name of Allah and we conclude with all praises to Allah.

    I am afraid if you remain in the state of God consciousness at the first level, you will be ingrained with the pride of talking like the truth from the God, which actually is disguised falsehood.

    The warning goes

    2204-206
    And from the mankind - they are those who may attract your heart with his rhetoric in this world ? and he uses God as the witness over whatever is in his heart ? whilst he is the worst of all enemies. And when he turns away - he roams in the earth to cause corruption in it - and he impedes crops and lives. And God dislikes the mischief. And when it is said to him, ?Observe God?, he is overtaken by his arrogance - at the same time sinning. Thus sufficient is the Hell for him - and it is the worse place for a settlement.

    Zone.

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      justamuslim
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      Stillearning,

      Don't get me wrong. As I have said, these fraudsters need to be held accountable.

      Here's an article. http//news.yahoo.com/court-upholds-parents-convictions-prayer-death-123307685.html

      what drfazl and his followers are doing is simply criminal. People need to understand that.

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        stillearning
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        Aoa

        Here's an article. http//news.yahoo.com/court-upholds-parents-convictions-prayer-death-123307685.html

        Thankfully at least some sense is prevailing. Lets hope that other countries follow suit and these fraudsters get their just dessert.

        Regards

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          drfazl
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          The fraud of the MM

          A recent episode of 60 Minutes revealed how Dr. Anil Potti, a cancer researcher at Duke University, was found to have manipulated research data to support his hypothesis, which led to over 100 terminally ill cancer patients participating in a fraudulent cancer trial.

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          There is a disease in the MM followers' hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they lied.

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            drfazl
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            The lie of MM

            The real fraud, however, is revealed in Duke University?s statement that none of the trial participants were harmed?even though they died?because all of them still received ?the standard of care? in chemotherapy

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              drfazl
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              Destroyers of crops, lives and create mischievous propaganda

              2204-206. And from the mankind - they are those who may attract your heart with his rhetoric in this world ? and he uses God as the witness over whatever is in his heart ? whilst he is the worst of all enemies. And when he turns away - he roams in the earth to cause corruption in it - and he impedes crops and lives. And God dislikes the mischief. And when it is said to him, ?Observe God?, he is overtaken by his arrogance - at the same time sinning. Thus sufficient is the Hell for him - and it is the worse place for a settlement. Here, it goes

              The cancer paradigm is based on an archaic cut, poison, and burn approach - butchering in the name of surgery, poisoning and causing havoc in the human immune system in the name of MM and burning in the name of radiation therapy. This is a cash cow for the drug companies, and they are working hard to protect this paradigm at all cost?even when it means sacrificing millions of lives to prevent non-patentable or otherwise inexpensive treatments from reaching the market.

              All the above highlighted words and parts are the rhetorical words used by MM followers to kill the public at any cost for bucks.

              Peace

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                drfazl
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                MM and its Frauds

                http//articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/09/monsanto-roundup-herbicide.aspx?e_cid=20130609_SNL_Art_1&utm_source=snl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20130609

                May God Bless non MMs.

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                  justamuslim
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                  Drfazl,

                  Thanks for pointing out that constantly medical practices and understandings are in check and being evaluated. When information is learned, in particular if something is not effective, harmful, or especially when fraud by researchers or pharmaceuticals are done, steps are taken. In case of fraud, there is accountability.

                  Here in the states, you will be held liable. Will remind you again that you will not get away.

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                    drfazl
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                    Please thank me for this information also

                    ....But W.H.O. World Hazard Organisation should get away.

                    http//articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/12/12/WHO-Denies-LiInk-Between-Swine-Flu-Vaccine-and-Illnesses-Deaths.aspx

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                    These are they of whom Allah knows what is in their hearts; therefore turn aside from them and admonish them, and speak to them effectual words concerning themselves.

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                      stillearning
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                      Aoa

                      As usual long list of generalised nonsense very little to do with balanced facts. MM (as you call it)!has balances and checks & yes treatments don't always work. In case you may not have noticed there are thousands of journals evaluating all forms of treatments. You r quick with sound bites & that is very much like another group of well known crooks, who claim to be representing the public as well. I will let you guess the profession.

                      All the above highlighted words and parts are the rhetorical words used by MM followers to kill the public at any cost for bucks.

                      The above is an absolute gem. As obviously you do it for free. Hypocrisy no knows bounds.

                      Over a century ago, in UK, at a dinner of some extremely rich individuals. Very rich individual to an extremely attractive lady " will you sleep with me for ?million".
                      She "yes".
                      He " will you do it for a penny".
                      She " what do you take me for"
                      He "I have already established that. I am just trying to establish the price".

                      You by your own posts have already established your own character

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                        supportpeacenotwar
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                        The price of some medicines for conditions like HIV or other life threatening things is really criminal. The industy is absurd at times. When things become big business, its clear what happens. Same with the education system. ...same with religion?

                        We should also be careful with how we use the term hypocrisy. Some could say that all us peace loving Quran only Muslims - apparently - living in the West and thinking it is so much better than the other parts of the world are hypocrites when we give our taxes that pay for weapons of mass destruction that we know are used in wars. I also believe the West is not so much hospitable to us because its oh so much better because most people here are disinterested in Islam as a whole. I could say something about terrorist acts and perceptions of Muslims as a whole by people but then I'll really be going off topic.

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                          IAMOP
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                          Guys the SECOND you educate yourselves on the pharmacology and anatomy of the human body the lies of the medical industry dissolve.

                          Just like the SECOND you learn any real mathematics where actual problems are actually solved, you see straight through all numerology.

                          Let me first bid you peace, and best of wishes;

                          Thing is there is no individual group of THE REJECTORS OF 2+2=4 (al-kafirun) who orchestrate the whole thing, I do not for a second even believe there is unity amongst the hidden/jinn. Reality is they are united by their GREED and that alone. When it serves them all, they unite but if it serves one to the exception of the other, they are always divided. Those who believe are not like that, we are commanded to stand even against ourselves so long as we stand WITH GOD!

                          The thing is the body has a natural balance aka homeostasis. When you add a foreign agent to it, such as any of the myriad synthetic substances available on prescription or from your local friendly street pharmacist () you create a NEW homeostasis. This new balance and the intrinsic balance compete and the final balance will be in between the two, but always tending towards the natural way.

                          The reality and I swear by my Creator, as I have suffered at the hands of these fools and my ignorance of my own health at a time I did not know, is that these exogenous agents are useless and never necessary. In reality by the time administration of an exogenous agent is necessary (e.g. chemo, blood thinners, etc), the human body has long deteriorated. Cancer cannot DEVELOP in a healthy body. When the body is assailed from all sides by pollution and deficiencies and traumas, then it develops weaknesses which lead to cancer finding a foothold. Reality is that tumors develop in our bodies every single day but they also dissolve as fast as they appear.

                          Only a weakened body over MANY YEARS, who has ignored their health and every ache, pain, inflammation and so on that their body has cried out, only such people develop the serious illnesses like cancer, MS, alzheimers, etc. They are at their root, caused by nutritional deficiency and environmental/pre/neonatal poisoning. When you understand how the various metabolic cycles and pathways of the body work, how they interlink, how every single organ supports every single organ, this will transpire.

                          For instance, let me define one such potential route to schizophrenia out of MANY
                          Bad food (allergens, processed, nutrient deficient, etc) => Gut inflammation => Malabsorption of nutrients + healthy bacteria die off => multiple systems knocked out (liver especially), overgrowth of dangerous bacteria in the gut => long term poisoning of multiple bodily systems => Neuroinflammation + brain nutrient deprivation => dopamine/glutamate imbalance.

                          But what does the medical system say? They point to the LEAVES of the tree and sell you 1 a day disposable scissors.

                          This is a bit of a simplification but I wanted simply to show you how these things develop over DECADES, with each factor progressively laying the foundations until finally an actual "disease" is developed.

                          The body is a BUILDING MADE OF BRICKS (FOOD). Those who say that BRICKS cannot be used to repair a BUILDING MADE OF BRICKS but instead you need a sledgehammer and some plasterboard, these are in true error.

                          Not just to say that, but not all of us are meant to eat the same food. If you have gene 7CB8112blahblah which makes you spontaneously combust when you eat X or Y, then you were never meant to eat X or Y. But people do, and they get destroyed by it, their own ignorance. For example people with phenylketonuria who are allergic to phenylalanine. They were NEVER ever meant to ingest this stuff and from a natural POV they would have avoided these foods just because they would taste "wrong". But because there is a perception of "NORMAL" food, people eat it and suffer. Bird is not made to swim and fish is not made to fly so STOP DOING IT.

                          But also, we carry the fruits of the works of our parents. Every child is the sum result of the deeds of its parents. So that alone, to a seeing mind is sufficient resolution for the original question re why are some people born disabled. And when you understand your Self as both your parents and the body you inhabit, you would start taking responsibility. When you see it from a limited POV of "this body I inhabit for 80 years is ME and I shall die" then there is a Me who can be created in an unjust fashion.

                          The truth is that YOU created this body, you SHAPED this body, YOU drew your face, YOU drew the parents' faces and their minds. Because at its heart, YOU are the only being.

                          peace

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                            drfazl
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                            Death to people
                            Long Live MM

                            http//www.deathbymodernmedicine.com/

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                              drfazl
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                              Death to people
                              Long Live MM

                              PART II

                              http//www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_01.htm

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                                drfazl
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                                Death to people
                                Long Live MM

                                PART III

                                http//www.medicinekillsmillions.com/

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                                  drfazl
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                                  Death to people
                                  Long Live MM

                                  FINAL PART

                                  http//m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=IG9t4imQP_M&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIG9t4imQP_M

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                                    DrGm
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                                    Peace to believers,

                                    Adding the cart
                                    http//www.amazon.com/Good-Bye-Germ-Theory-century-medical/dp/1413454402

                                    i recommend parents to read this book

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                                      Man_of_Faith
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                                      Peace brother Fazl,

                                      Okay. I might not know exactly what you do for these 2000 dollars. Although I could not understand in its entirety what you mean is included in your services. If they feel happier and their lives are turned around for the better then it is good.

                                      God bless you.

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                                        drfazl
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                                        Dear brother

                                        May Allah grace us with His Mightiness, Wisdom because we fear Him Alone. Believe in that God will give you more than the dirty notes given by the governments. Forget the government printed dirty document, the dollars.

                                        May Allah endow all the poor with His Endless bounties. Unless they spend out of what remains with them for their own food and for their own good, Allah's grace is far away.

                                        1. O you who believe! Spend out of what We have given you before the day comes in which there is no bargaining, neither any friendship nor intercession, and the unbelievers -- they are the unjust.

                                        Please spend the dirty money, for lofty life from Allah, the Mighty.

                                        brother fazl

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                                          newmoon
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                                          Peace brother Fazl,

                                          Okay. I might not know exactly what you do for these 2000 dollars. Although I could not understand in its entirety what you mean is included in your services. If they feel happier and their lives are turned around for the better then it is good.

                                          God bless you.

                                          Peace Man of Faith

                                          Yes, you are right and there need be no doubt. I am one among the beneficiary who is ever increasingly better, peaceful and lively for the past ten years, and for the years to come, not only for me but for my wife and my three children. If I am going to compare with 2000 dollars to the benefit , we are experiencing, that would be the gravest sin, for this could not be equated to the WISDOM revealed.

                                          The greatest association is the man made money, with which we believe our life settled, leaving behind the GOD given intelligence, which has to be ever growing, for us to live in paradise here, and hereafter.

                                          Regards

                                          BalaChandran

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