What is God's role with Born Disabled?
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Peace brother Fazl,
Okay. I might not know exactly what you do for these 2000 dollars. Although I could not understand in its entirety what you mean is included in your services. If they feel happier and their lives are turned around for the better then it is good.
God bless you.
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Dear brother
May Allah grace us with His Mightiness, Wisdom because we fear Him Alone. Believe in that God will give you more than the dirty notes given by the governments. Forget the government printed dirty document, the dollars.
May Allah endow all the poor with His Endless bounties. Unless they spend out of what remains with them for their own food and for their own good, Allah's grace is far away.
- O you who believe! Spend out of what We have given you before the day comes in which there is no bargaining, neither any friendship nor intercession, and the unbelievers -- they are the unjust.
Please spend the dirty money, for lofty life from Allah, the Mighty.
brother fazl
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Peace brother Fazl,
Okay. I might not know exactly what you do for these 2000 dollars. Although I could not understand in its entirety what you mean is included in your services. If they feel happier and their lives are turned around for the better then it is good.
God bless you.
Peace Man of Faith
Yes, you are right and there need be no doubt. I am one among the beneficiary who is ever increasingly better, peaceful and lively for the past ten years, and for the years to come, not only for me but for my wife and my three children. If I am going to compare with 2000 dollars to the benefit , we are experiencing, that would be the gravest sin, for this could not be equated to the WISDOM revealed.
The greatest association is the man made money, with which we believe our life settled, leaving behind the GOD given intelligence, which has to be ever growing, for us to live in paradise here, and hereafter.
Regards
BalaChandran
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Peace brother Fazl,
I know the feeling about having God around and ditching obsession with money. I released myself from its shackles a while ago. In that regard I do understand you. The money for me is just another dirty tool.
God bless you
Peace newmoon,
I am glad you were able to turn your life around and things are better now. Hope it stays that way and God will be with you forever.
God bless you
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Believe in that God will give you more than the dirty notes given by the governments
I suppose you take your payment in credit cards so dirty notes don't apply to you. Again obviously no hypocricy here.
Death to truth, decency, godliness, fairness and justice etc
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Peace justamuslim,
I think what drfazl means that if God wills a woman does not need sperm to conceive. This was the case with Mary.
On the contrary, I think recent criticism against him has made drfazl tone down on his most controversial claims.
It was never a question about not criticizing him, it was about how to encounter him.
I think drfazl might be unintentionally spreading misinformation if that is so, but I doubt he is lying.
God bless you
Manoffaith,
First off, the Koran does not support the Trinitarian claim that Jesus was a result of immaculate conception.
Ok let's say that Jesus did not have human father and was immaculately conceived. so is dfazl saying that any woman can have a child like Mary, the mother of jesus? So drfazl is relating this supposed story of Jesus (which i am sure is a lie told to elevate position of Jesus) and telling woman that they too can have a child without male contribution? And how much is he charging for this?
How many such supposed immaculate conceptions have happened? As drfazl claims that God can do anything,so can a woman who has had hysterectomy have a baby?
Manoffaith, as you seem to jump to drfazl's defense considering him your brother and supporting his alleged faith in God, do you also support his belief that a woman doesn't need a man to conceive or age does not matter?
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Peace brother Fazl,
Okay. I might not know exactly what you do for these 2000 dollars. Although I could not understand in its entirety what you mean is included in your services. If they feel happier and their lives are turned around for the better then it is good.
God bless you.
So manoffaith, what you are saying is that drfazl turned these people's lives around and made happier for 2000 dollars? Just want to be sure we have a clear understanding here.
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...First off, the Koran does not support the Trinitarian claim that Jesus was a result of immaculate conception...
highlights above are from me.
Through your statement above, you have made a claim on BEHALF of The Qur'aan. Would you please tell us what the verses 345, 346, and 347 in The Qur'aan mean?
Peace,
Khalil -
highlights above are from me.
Through your statement above, you have made a claim on BEHALF of The Qur'aan. Would you please tell us what the verses 345, 346, and 347 in The Qur'aan mean?
Peace,
KhalilI think it would be best to address this topic in a thread of its own. Will say for now that I have not made a claim on behalf of God as you put it. I am simply stating that the Koran does not support Trinitarian claim of immaculate conception of Jesus. Not a claim but a statement. As you brought up verses 345 to 347, can you tell me how those verses support the claim that Jesus was immaculately conceived? Let's carry this conversation to another thread and leave this about drfazl's claims that a woman does not need a man to conceive or age does not matter.
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I think it would be best to address this topic in a thread of its own. Will say for now that I have not made a claim on behalf of God as you put it. I am simply stating that the Koran does not support Trinitarian claim of immaculate conception of Jesus. Not a claim but a statement. As you brought up verses 345 to 347, can you tell me how those verses support the claim that Jesus was immaculately conceived? Let's carry this conversation to another thread and leave this about drfazl's claims that a woman does not need a man to conceive or age does not matter.
1st I agree, but since you're denying the IMMACULATE conception of Jesus, pbuh, and did not answer my question, I suggest that you start a "NEW THREAD" regarding the issue, by answering my question first!
2nd TRINITY and IMMACULATE conception are two completely different issues and have nothing to do with one another.
3rd drfazl is an old news and a lot of people here know that he is nothing but a con artist and a demagogue, so let's start the "NEW THREAD" and learn a bit more about the word of GOD, i.e. The Qur'aan. Inshaa'Allaah.
Peace,
Khalil -
1st I agree, but since you're denying the IMMACULATE conception of Jesus, pbuh, and did not answer my question, I suggest that you start a "NEW THREAD" regarding the issue, by answering my question first!
2nd TRINITY and IMMACULATE conception are two completely different issues and have nothing to do with one another.
3rd drfazl is an old news and a lot of people here know that he is nothing but a con artist and a demagogue, so let's start the "NEW THREAD" and learn a bit more about the word of GOD, i.e. The Qur'aan. Inshaa'Allaah.
Peace,
KhalilAgreed and will start a thread on this issue soon!
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Allah says in 36 "It is Allah who forms you in the wombs however He wills. There is no creator except Him, the Exalted in Might, the Wise." But the shaitans say challenging the creator and say to the people I too can create life; and I too can make them die; it is I who would genetically mislead and alter you in the wombs in the way I will. And, "I will make them believe I am Mightier and Wiser than You."
Then shaitans' plan against Allah, and Allah's admonition in 4119 "And I will genetically mislead them, and I will arouse in them in all vain desires, and I will command them so they will slit the ears of cattle, and I will command them so they will cause defects at birth in the creation of Allah" ." And whoever takes Satan as an ally instead of Allah has certainly sustained a clear loss."
And surely the mother bears the blame for subjecting her womb to the blasphemous approach of shaitans, and Allah places in their genes the mark of that, they have to carry their X trait in their genes for their generations to come so that stunted insane lunatics are the following generations whereupon Allah will erase them all from the surface of the earth and create a new generation. This has been the sunnah of Allah and one does not witness change in His way and it is easy for Him.
With regard to the cattle Allah says 7179 "And We have certainly created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind. They have hearts with which they do not understand, they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear. Those are like cattle deaf in the ears; rather, they are more astray. It is they who are the heedless."
2171 The example of these followers of shaitans who disbelieve is like that of one who shouts at what hears nothing but calls and cries cattle or sheep - deaf, dumb and blind, so they do not understand.
Now let us get ready to hear to the chorus cries and shouts of deaf, dumb and blind as answers against Allah's verses in this post. Such cries will show how true Allah's verses are about the disbelievers. If they believed in Allah, the Mighty and Wise, after this posting and become humble, then, to Allah is All Glory.
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peace drfzl
You are certainly preaching some truth, but you are selling it for a vile price, or to be precise 2000 dollars.
Forget the government printed dirty document, the dollars.
And you want 2000 for each service. Who do you think should forget about the duty documents?
3187..."You must make it clear to the people and not conceal it." But they threw it away behind their backs and exchanged it for a small price. And wretched is that which they purchased. 99They have exchanged the signs of Allah for a small price and averted from His way. Indeed, it was evil that they were doing.
Allah the all seeing need no intercessor, and drfzl here is not just trying to play the intercesor, but charging an enormous price for it.- O you who believe! Spend out of what We have given you before the day comes in which there is no bargaining, neither any friendship nor intercession, and the unbelievers -- they are the unjust.
Please spend the dirty money, for lofty life from Allah, the Mighty. brother drfzl
Yes brother believers spend the money, but not on Drfzl.
2215 They ask you, what they should spend. Say, "Whatever you spend of good is for parents and relatives and orphans and the needy and the traveler. And whatever you do of good - indeed, Allah is Knowing of it."
2177True piety does not consist in turning your faces towards the east or the west - but truly piousis he who believes in God, and the Last Day; and the angels, and revelation, and the prophets;and spends his substance - however much he himself may cherish it - upon his near of kin, and the orphans, and the needy, and the wayfarer, and the beggars, and for the freeing of human beings from bondage;146 and is constant in prayer, and renders the purifying dues; and they who keep their promises whenever they promise, and are patient in misfortune and hardship and in time of peril it is they that have proved themselves true, and it is they, they who are conscious of God.As you see believing brothers, God never says in the Qur?an to spend your money ?dirty documents? in the services of Drfzl and his associates. but on the way of Allah, and not on those who sell it for a vile price.
3199 And indeed, among the People of the book are those who believe in Allah and what was revealed to you and what was revealed to them, humbly submissive to Allah . They do not exchange the verses of Allah for a small price. Those will have their reward with their Lord. Indeed, Allah is swift in account.
may God increase our wisdom.
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peace drfzl
You are certainly preaching some truth, but you are selling it for a vile price, or to be precise 2000 dollars.
If Allah will it will be 2 million or more. 2000 is only a wretched paltry price to receive Allah's Mercy.. Even if you possess the world of golds and two folds in addition, Allah will not accept it on that Day, at the final moments of your life in this world. Spend more for Allah' sake while you are still hale and hearty so Allah favours you from Him more than your spending.
Allah says Shaitan threatens you with poverty and enjoins you to be niggardly, and Allah promises you forgiveness from Himself and abundance; and Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.
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peace
What this drfazl is doing is no different than what the Cristian preacher healers are doing, and God hates those who use faith in order to get rich. 2000 dollars maybe little to him, but in a world where 20% of People Live on Dollar a Day, it means dying because they cannot afford to achieve faith. Therefore, he is a preacher send by God only to the rich. What a contradiction, for God always sends them only for the poor.
Peace wrkmmn
Initially in the year 1999, when DrFazl swithched over from successfully practising Acupuncture to Faith Healing, I too was of the opinion that, he is similar to christian preachers who used Faith Healing as a tool for converting people to christianity, hence discontinued the treatment for my daughter for severe stomach ache. Thereafter resorting to Modern Medicine, stomach pain only agravated, hence by resorted back to Faith Healing to get cured permanently by God's Grace. There was no word about conversion, rather out of own interest inquired about, how the cure was possible and learnt about cause for any disease is to turn towards GOD ALONE. Further came
to understanding that one has to come out of his religion to become a human, for the word religion in Tamil language refers to (madham) madness, that can happen only to an elephant. So coming to this understanding a Hindu man, Muslim man, Christian man would become a HUMAN, and strive in the path of ISLAM, the straight path of SALAM-PEACE, by turning towards GOD ALONE, for all needs.From a poor state, I have been paying this 2000 USD for the past 10 years , only to become rich not in savings but in spending in HIS path for my own good and who are striving in this Straight Path.
Regards
BalaChandran
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Peace drfzl
this is friendly discussion, I feel the tone in your writing a little tense/agitated.
Peace, peace, peace, is the sign of the believers.If Allah will it will be 2 million or more. 2000 is only a wretched paltry price to receive Allah's Mercy
If Allah would sell it to me, I would pay whatever He asked for, but he is not selling it, rather He gives it for free to whomever asks for it with a heart full of faith only in Him. And, the deal is one to one with no intermediaries.
2740.........then indeed, my Lord is Free of need and Generous.
337........ Indeed, Allah provides for whom He wills without account.
3943 And yet, they choose, side by side with God, intercessors ! Say "Why - even though they have no power over anything, and no understanding?"3188 Think not that those who exult/rejoice/boast in what they have thus contrived/devised/invented, and who love to be praised for what they have not done - think not that they will escape suffering for grievous suffering does await them .
3199 And indeed, among the People of the book are those who believe in Allah and what was revealed to you and what was revealed to them, humbly submissive to Allah . They do not exchange the verses of Allah for a small price. Those will have their reward with their Lord. Indeed, Allah is swift in account.
may God increase our wisdom.
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What is God's role with born disabled?
"Allah knows what every female bears, and the wombs that shrink and harden; and that which bloom and blossom; and the measure is with Him for every material." 138
The phrase, "what every woman bears" refers to the wombs of married or unmarried; and the wombs of pregnant or non pregnant; and he wombs of healthy or afflicted as to whether they bear the the Mighty Grace of Allah; or the bear the brunt of shaitan's. Every womb is a new world designed and shaped for the creation of all anew life of a new generation the world is yet to see, as they are delivered of the wombs and made to grow to each one's threshold. There is none but Allah who could create an womb! When the human shaitans impiously allow their wombs to be invaded and meddled with by the specialist shaitans, the wombs begin to shrink and harden from which shaitans are alone delivered in human clothing as clones and clowns. Mostly the human clothed beings are created for hell.
This is Nabi Nuh's prayer to Allah "For, behold, If You leave them, they will always lead astray those who worship You, and will give birth to nothing but wickedness and stubborn ingratitude."
So fear Allah. Put your trust in Him for your progeny to be created by Allah.
Or is there any shaitan who could claim, "I can create an womb?" Or are there his allies who believe with him and say, "We could create womb?"
This is millions dollar message to you for which I seek no wages from you. It is all for free without a penny fee.
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Brilliant, it's progressed from soliciting money for healing prayers to saying every woman who gives birth in a hospital is birthing a hellspawn. Do people ever stop to think how ridiculous and WICKED this is? Obviously not those in debt to drfazl.
138 God knows what every female carries, and how short her pregnancy is or how long. And everything with Him is measured.
When the human shaitans impiously allow their wombs to be invaded and meddled with by the specialist shaitans, the wombs begin to shrink and harden from which shaitans are alone delivered in human clothing as clones and clowns. Mostly the human clothed beings are created for hell.
= all babies born in hospitals are clones and clowns, mostly created for hell. What drfazl does is purport to take truth in the form of verses and creates a lie by his outlandish associations and choice translations.
This is Nabi Nuh's prayer to Allah "For, behold, If You leave them, they will always lead astray those who worship You, and will give birth to nothing but wickedness and stubborn ingratitude."
The giving birth to wickedness and stubborn ingratitude is now literally giving birth to hellspawn somehow associated with hospital births because well, how else is a good doctor who does nothing supposed to get his monies? Certainly, relying on people's good will won't get one luxury travels even if it does get one a full meal.So fear Allah. Put your trust in Him for your progeny to be created by Allah.
Because those giving birth in hospitals don't think their progeny is created by Allah. The doctors created their progeny. Reminds me of the Pakistani movie Immaculate Conception.Or is there any shaitan who could claim, "I can create an womb?" Or are there his allies who believe with him and say, "We could create womb?"
There is only one person asking that question on this thread. The one that believes the doctor-shaitans can create a womb and progeny somehow.This is millions dollar message to you for which I seek no wages from you. It is all for free without a penny fee.
I'd say no one would pay to hear this millions dollar message but then again, apparently there are some willing to give $2000...it's all so priceless. -
Peace newmoon.
After reading the article by drfazl that you posted, I can?t help it but to conclude it is Sufism at the highest degree.
In a nutshell
To my earthly dimensional creative understanding, all forms of knowledge that the God created in the present universe, are earthly profane. We observe the ayats in the heavens and the earth and whatever within us in order to discover the meanings and the laws embedded in His creations (the God?s knowledge) to safeguard our personal, fellow humans and crops to orderly live and grow to our fullest potential to be in accordance to the way of Allah. Thus, we begin with the name of Allah and we conclude with all praises to Allah.Peace zone
Similar to sufism, which Iam unaware off, I have heard about total surrender - saranagathy in the tamil hindu theology, which is encompassed in the fullest and the finest form in the latest, unalterable and last God's Scripture Quran.
By God's Grace, with the sign of unbelievable cure, interested me in Quran to believe in the unseen, beyond all forms and spheres of knowledge existing today.
General apprehension is that the Truth is complex, not so easy to tread, whereas the Myth, the earthly knowledge on the other hand, perceived through our outer senses leaving the inner voice in lurch, is easy for us to believe and proceed.
The Myth what we believe is benefit through knowledge with little difficulty, rather the Truth is we benefit little, that too temperorarily, with a greater difficulty.
A typical example could be the present Modern Medicine for our health care. Initially for a child it starts with a single dose of medicine to cure a single disease, or a vaccine for prevention.
In the beginning, we get a relief, but sooner or later the side effects crops up into multivarious diseases.
Thereupon we run from pillar to post for various doctors/hospitals as the diseases reaches chronic, whereupon the surgery takes over when medicine fails.
Meanwhile financially one would be bankrupt, to finally kick the bucket painfully. Hellish life starts here, and hereafter. This could happen over a period of many years from a child to adult/old age.
I am afraid if you remain in the state of God consciousness at the first level, you will be ingrained with the pride of talking like the truth from the God, which actually is disguised falsehood.
I appreciate your concern, and you can pray for me , for my pride should not openly/stealthly creep in to falsify the TRUTH.
Here is another example, how Truth is so simple, God willing one can understand.
Generally on an average assuming a person is diseased say 10% (36 days out of 365 days in a year) even on a higher side.
So, for the remaining 90% healthy period, who is responsible, whether self or knowledgeable person like Doctor ?
If so why I/WE should fail for this 10% period, while 90% period I/WE are successful ?
It is GOD who keeps us healthy, and allows us to be diseased for a short period, only to turn towards HIM for our ingratitude, unbelieving nature and to repent for the sin of association we commit.
All one has to do is to seek patience and forgiveness for us to be elevated in order, not to err again.
Going against this, by seeking others help would make this 10% diseased period to aggravate slowly and steadily to a greater period, until we are nailed down in the Lofty ICU, in a peaceless state.
Regards
BalaChandran