What is God's role with Born Disabled?

justamuslim

1st I agree, but since you're denying the IMMACULATE conception of Jesus, pbuh, and did not answer my question, I suggest that you start a "NEW THREAD" regarding the issue, by answering my question first!

2nd TRINITY and IMMACULATE conception are two completely different issues and have nothing to do with one another.

3rd drfazl is an old news and a lot of people here know that he is nothing but a con artist and a demagogue, so let's start the "NEW THREAD" and learn a bit more about the word of GOD, i.e. The Qur'aan. Inshaa'Allaah.

Peace,
Khalil

Agreed and will start a thread on this issue soon!

drfazl

Allah says in 36 "It is Allah who forms you in the wombs however He wills. There is no creator except Him, the Exalted in Might, the Wise." But the shaitans say challenging the creator and say to the people I too can create life; and I too can make them die; it is I who would genetically mislead and alter you in the wombs in the way I will. And, "I will make them believe I am Mightier and Wiser than You."

Then shaitans' plan against Allah, and Allah's admonition in 4119 "And I will genetically mislead them, and I will arouse in them in all vain desires, and I will command them so they will slit the ears of cattle, and I will command them so they will cause defects at birth in the creation of Allah" ." And whoever takes Satan as an ally instead of Allah has certainly sustained a clear loss."

And surely the mother bears the blame for subjecting her womb to the blasphemous approach of shaitans, and Allah places in their genes the mark of that, they have to carry their X trait in their genes for their generations to come so that stunted insane lunatics are the following generations whereupon Allah will erase them all from the surface of the earth and create a new generation. This has been the sunnah of Allah and one does not witness change in His way and it is easy for Him.

With regard to the cattle Allah says 7179 "And We have certainly created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind. They have hearts with which they do not understand, they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear. Those are like cattle deaf in the ears; rather, they are more astray. It is they who are the heedless."

2171 The example of these followers of shaitans who disbelieve is like that of one who shouts at what hears nothing but calls and cries cattle or sheep - deaf, dumb and blind, so they do not understand.

Now let us get ready to hear to the chorus cries and shouts of deaf, dumb and blind as answers against Allah's verses in this post. Such cries will show how true Allah's verses are about the disbelievers. If they believed in Allah, the Mighty and Wise, after this posting and become humble, then, to Allah is All Glory.

wrkmmn

peace drfzl

You are certainly preaching some truth, but you are selling it for a vile price, or to be precise 2000 dollars.

Forget the government printed dirty document, the dollars.

And you want 2000 for each service. Who do you think should forget about the duty documents?
3187..."You must make it clear to the people and not conceal it." But they threw it away behind their backs and exchanged it for a small price. And wretched is that which they purchased. 99They have exchanged the signs of Allah for a small price and averted from His way. Indeed, it was evil that they were doing.
Allah the all seeing need no intercessor, and drfzl here is not just trying to play the intercesor, but charging an enormous price for it.

O you who believe! Spend out of what We have given you before the day comes in which there is no bargaining, neither any friendship nor intercession, and the unbelievers -- they are the unjust.

Please spend the dirty money, for lofty life from Allah, the Mighty. brother drfzl

Yes brother believers spend the money, but not on Drfzl.

2215 They ask you, what they should spend. Say, "Whatever you spend of good is for parents and relatives and orphans and the needy and the traveler. And whatever you do of good - indeed, Allah is Knowing of it."
2177True piety does not consist in turning your faces towards the east or the west - but truly piousis he who believes in God, and the Last Day; and the angels, and revelation, and the prophets;and spends his substance - however much he himself may cherish it - upon his near of kin, and the orphans, and the needy, and the wayfarer, and the beggars, and for the freeing of human beings from bondage;146 and is constant in prayer, and renders the purifying dues; and they who keep their promises whenever they promise, and are patient in misfortune and hardship and in time of peril it is they that have proved themselves true, and it is they, they who are conscious of God.

As you see believing brothers, God never says in the Qur?an to spend your money ?dirty documents? in the services of Drfzl and his associates. but on the way of Allah, and not on those who sell it for a vile price.

3199 And indeed, among the People of the book are those who believe in Allah and what was revealed to you and what was revealed to them, humbly submissive to Allah . They do not exchange the verses of Allah for a small price. Those will have their reward with their Lord. Indeed, Allah is swift in account.

may God increase our wisdom.

drfazl

peace drfzl

You are certainly preaching some truth, but you are selling it for a vile price, or to be precise 2000 dollars.

If Allah will it will be 2 million or more. 2000 is only a wretched paltry price to receive Allah's Mercy.. Even if you possess the world of golds and two folds in addition, Allah will not accept it on that Day, at the final moments of your life in this world. Spend more for Allah' sake while you are still hale and hearty so Allah favours you from Him more than your spending.

Allah says Shaitan threatens you with poverty and enjoins you to be niggardly, and Allah promises you forgiveness from Himself and abundance; and Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.

newmoon

peace

What this drfazl is doing is no different than what the Cristian preacher healers are doing, and God hates those who use faith in order to get rich. 2000 dollars maybe little to him, but in a world where 20% of People Live on Dollar a Day, it means dying because they cannot afford to achieve faith. Therefore, he is a preacher send by God only to the rich. What a contradiction, for God always sends them only for the poor.

Peace wrkmmn

Initially in the year 1999, when DrFazl swithched over from successfully practising Acupuncture to Faith Healing, I too was of the opinion that, he is similar to christian preachers who used Faith Healing as a tool for converting people to christianity, hence discontinued the treatment for my daughter for severe stomach ache. Thereafter resorting to Modern Medicine, stomach pain only agravated, hence by resorted back to Faith Healing to get cured permanently by God's Grace. There was no word about conversion, rather out of own interest inquired about, how the cure was possible and learnt about cause for any disease is to turn towards GOD ALONE. Further came
to understanding that one has to come out of his religion to become a human, for the word religion in Tamil language refers to (madham) madness, that can happen only to an elephant. So coming to this understanding a Hindu man, Muslim man, Christian man would become a HUMAN, and strive in the path of ISLAM, the straight path of SALAM-PEACE, by turning towards GOD ALONE, for all needs.

From a poor state, I have been paying this 2000 USD for the past 10 years , only to become rich not in savings but in spending in HIS path for my own good and who are striving in this Straight Path.

Regards

BalaChandran

wrkmmn

Peace drfzl
this is friendly discussion, I feel the tone in your writing a little tense/agitated.
Peace, peace, peace, is the sign of the believers.

If Allah will it will be 2 million or more. 2000 is only a wretched paltry price to receive Allah's Mercy

If Allah would sell it to me, I would pay whatever He asked for, but he is not selling it, rather He gives it for free to whomever asks for it with a heart full of faith only in Him. And, the deal is one to one with no intermediaries.
2740.........then indeed, my Lord is Free of need and Generous.
337........ Indeed, Allah provides for whom He wills without account.
3943 And yet, they choose, side by side with God, intercessors ! Say "Why - even though they have no power over anything, and no understanding?"

3188 Think not that those who exult/rejoice/boast in what they have thus contrived/devised/invented, and who love to be praised for what they have not done - think not that they will escape suffering for grievous suffering does await them .

3199 And indeed, among the People of the book are those who believe in Allah and what was revealed to you and what was revealed to them, humbly submissive to Allah . They do not exchange the verses of Allah for a small price. Those will have their reward with their Lord. Indeed, Allah is swift in account.

may God increase our wisdom.

drfazl

What is God's role with born disabled?

"Allah knows what every female bears, and the wombs that shrink and harden; and that which bloom and blossom; and the measure is with Him for every material." 138

The phrase, "what every woman bears" refers to the wombs of married or unmarried; and the wombs of pregnant or non pregnant; and he wombs of healthy or afflicted as to whether they bear the the Mighty Grace of Allah; or the bear the brunt of shaitan's. Every womb is a new world designed and shaped for the creation of all anew life of a new generation the world is yet to see, as they are delivered of the wombs and made to grow to each one's threshold. There is none but Allah who could create an womb! When the human shaitans impiously allow their wombs to be invaded and meddled with by the specialist shaitans, the wombs begin to shrink and harden from which shaitans are alone delivered in human clothing as clones and clowns. Mostly the human clothed beings are created for hell.

This is Nabi Nuh's prayer to Allah "For, behold, If You leave them, they will always lead astray those who worship You, and will give birth to nothing but wickedness and stubborn ingratitude."

So fear Allah. Put your trust in Him for your progeny to be created by Allah.

Or is there any shaitan who could claim, "I can create an womb?" Or are there his allies who believe with him and say, "We could create womb?"

This is millions dollar message to you for which I seek no wages from you. It is all for free without a penny fee.

savage_carrot

Brilliant, it's progressed from soliciting money for healing prayers to saying every woman who gives birth in a hospital is birthing a hellspawn. Do people ever stop to think how ridiculous and WICKED this is? Obviously not those in debt to drfazl.

138 God knows what every female carries, and how short her pregnancy is or how long. And everything with Him is measured.

When the human shaitans impiously allow their wombs to be invaded and meddled with by the specialist shaitans, the wombs begin to shrink and harden from which shaitans are alone delivered in human clothing as clones and clowns. Mostly the human clothed beings are created for hell.

= all babies born in hospitals are clones and clowns, mostly created for hell. What drfazl does is purport to take truth in the form of verses and creates a lie by his outlandish associations and choice translations.

This is Nabi Nuh's prayer to Allah "For, behold, If You leave them, they will always lead astray those who worship You, and will give birth to nothing but wickedness and stubborn ingratitude."
The giving birth to wickedness and stubborn ingratitude is now literally giving birth to hellspawn somehow associated with hospital births because well, how else is a good doctor who does nothing supposed to get his monies? Certainly, relying on people's good will won't get one luxury travels even if it does get one a full meal.

So fear Allah. Put your trust in Him for your progeny to be created by Allah.
Because those giving birth in hospitals don't think their progeny is created by Allah. The doctors created their progeny. Reminds me of the Pakistani movie Immaculate Conception.

Or is there any shaitan who could claim, "I can create an womb?" Or are there his allies who believe with him and say, "We could create womb?"
There is only one person asking that question on this thread. The one that believes the doctor-shaitans can create a womb and progeny somehow.

This is millions dollar message to you for which I seek no wages from you. It is all for free without a penny fee.
I'd say no one would pay to hear this millions dollar message but then again, apparently there are some willing to give $2000...it's all so priceless.

newmoon

Peace newmoon.

After reading the article by drfazl that you posted, I can?t help it but to conclude it is Sufism at the highest degree.
In a nutshell
To my earthly dimensional creative understanding, all forms of knowledge that the God created in the present universe, are earthly profane. We observe the ayats in the heavens and the earth and whatever within us in order to discover the meanings and the laws embedded in His creations (the God?s knowledge) to safeguard our personal, fellow humans and crops to orderly live and grow to our fullest potential to be in accordance to the way of Allah. Thus, we begin with the name of Allah and we conclude with all praises to Allah.

Peace zone

Similar to sufism, which Iam unaware off, I have heard about total surrender - saranagathy in the tamil hindu theology, which is encompassed in the fullest and the finest form in the latest, unalterable and last God's Scripture Quran.

By God's Grace, with the sign of unbelievable cure, interested me in Quran to believe in the unseen, beyond all forms and spheres of knowledge existing today.

General apprehension is that the Truth is complex, not so easy to tread, whereas the Myth, the earthly knowledge on the other hand, perceived through our outer senses leaving the inner voice in lurch, is easy for us to believe and proceed.

The Myth what we believe is benefit through knowledge with little difficulty, rather the Truth is we benefit little, that too temperorarily, with a greater difficulty.

A typical example could be the present Modern Medicine for our health care. Initially for a child it starts with a single dose of medicine to cure a single disease, or a vaccine for prevention.

In the beginning, we get a relief, but sooner or later the side effects crops up into multivarious diseases.

Thereupon we run from pillar to post for various doctors/hospitals as the diseases reaches chronic, whereupon the surgery takes over when medicine fails.

Meanwhile financially one would be bankrupt, to finally kick the bucket painfully. Hellish life starts here, and hereafter. This could happen over a period of many years from a child to adult/old age.

I am afraid if you remain in the state of God consciousness at the first level, you will be ingrained with the pride of talking like the truth from the God, which actually is disguised falsehood.

I appreciate your concern, and you can pray for me , for my pride should not openly/stealthly creep in to falsify the TRUTH.

Here is another example, how Truth is so simple, God willing one can understand.

Generally on an average assuming a person is diseased say 10% (36 days out of 365 days in a year) even on a higher side.

So, for the remaining 90% healthy period, who is responsible, whether self or knowledgeable person like Doctor ?

If so why I/WE should fail for this 10% period, while 90% period I/WE are successful ?

It is GOD who keeps us healthy, and allows us to be diseased for a short period, only to turn towards HIM for our ingratitude, unbelieving nature and to repent for the sin of association we commit.

All one has to do is to seek patience and forgiveness for us to be elevated in order, not to err again.

Going against this, by seeking others help would make this 10% diseased period to aggravate slowly and steadily to a greater period, until we are nailed down in the Lofty ICU, in a peaceless state.

Regards

BalaChandran

Man_of_Faith

Peace,

God just said 'be' and Jesus fetus was inside of Mary. This does not support the idea of the trinity, does it? Thus Mary needed no man to become pregnant, but she did not conceive in a normal way. As far as I know there has only been one pregnancy like the one in the case of the virgin Mary, but the possibility remains if God so wills.

Any woman can conceive if God so wills, no matter if she is very old or struck with some inability to conceive. You have the Quran as a proof of that. Do you not believe that God can do anything? This idea has nothing to do with drfazl, it is a fact from the Quran.

I have not solely defended drfazl as you can read in the previous posts in this thread by me. I consider him a brother, but that is to maintain the peace. He has not shown himself in such manner I would not call him brother.

God bless you

stillearning

When the human shaitans impiously allow their wombs to be invaded and meddled with by the specialist shaitans, the wombs begin to shrink and harden from which shaitans are alone delivered in human clothing as clones and clowns. Mostly the human clothed beings are created for hell

Either you are taking the p out of every one or you are in a serious need of psychiatric assistance. Either way you need urgent help

Dear Moderators

Is this forum now exhibitionist platform for the psychologically disturbed.

Regards

stillearning

.The Myth what we believe is benefit through knowledge with little difficulty, rather the Truth is we benefit little, that too temperorarily, with a greater difficulty.

Presumably you believe that it is a myth because you have knowledge of these things. How do you then then know that your knowledge only gives you little understanding, contrary to what you believe you understand, and what you understand is a myth is only mythical understanding of your understanding.

A typical example could be the present Modern Medicine for our health care. Initially for a child it starts with a single dose of medicine to cure a single disease, or a vaccine for prevention.

For example!

In the beginning, we get a relief, but sooner or later the side effects crops up into multivarious diseases.

More cliche nonsense. Do you want to provide few, or even one, example.

Bender

What is God's role with born disabled?

When the human shaitans impiously allow their wombs to be invaded and meddled with by the specialist shaitans, the wombs begin to shrink and harden from which shaitans are alone delivered in human clothing as clones and clowns. Mostly the human clothed beings are created for hell.

Salaamun alayka,

Dr. I think you went one step to far here, don't you think?

532

I was wondering dr. if there is a pregnant woman who is dying and her baby too, would you help her or leave her dying?

Salaam,
Bender

drfazl

How to know if we are true followers of prophets and messengers?

We are to follow the prophets and messengers in essence and in perception quality, looking up to Allah alone, and believe we shall receive from Him the wisdom by His grace direct. Every prophet and messenger was abused by the rejecters as mad and psychologically disturbed. So will be the name earned by the bondsmen of Allah who strictly follow the messengers. Only if the bondsmen earn such name from the rejecters, they are truly in Allah's way.

drfazl

Salam,
Bender

I appreciate your concern, but falling into the trap of MM is disastrous and close to committing suicide. The MM would get the signature from the wife and husband that the doctors would not be held responsible if the mother or the child dies; or even if both of them die during delivery.

Allah alone is the creator of life in the womb. But of all the systems of medicine, the MM alone arrogantly invades and meddles with the interior of the blessed womb, like postponing menstruation, surgical intervention like D & C, inserting copper-T, cutting and tying ip the fallopian tube, administration of dead and synthetic oestrogen, progesterone which would severely disturb or inhibit the natural and life enriched reproductive hormones by feed-back mechanism. This causes all sorts of menstrual disorder and uterine dysfunction leading to every complication the mother suffering during pregnancy and delivery. The MM's invasive and messing up methodologies involving scanning radiations is the cause of many genetic disorders. The vitamin B6, iron, calcium supplements severely damages the functioning ability of kidneys and cause even heart defects in the babies. Even the mothers end up in life threatening toxaemic pregnancies. Most maternal and foetal deaths occur only because of such arrogant interventions by MM. Most mothers suffer the beginning of diabetes for the first time is again due to the stress caused by the drugs administered to the mother in the name of prenatal care. They would immediately give it a name gestational diabetes. And soon they would become a diabetic patient. The growing foetus would get affected too with diabetes in its later stages of development after birth.

Any system of medicine can help in delivery because of their humility and fear for God. The only system to be shunned and thrown to dustbin is MM. From pregnancy to delivery, the highest mortality rate is only with MM. I have given so many links to support this truth in this thread, just two pages before. Please go through such links and you would know.

fazl

stillearning

The only system to be shunned and thrown to dustbin is MM. From pregnancy to delivery, the highest mortality rate is only with MM. I have given so many links to support this truth in this thread, just two pages before. Please go through such links and you would know

Another blatant lie. There is not single place on this God's earth, where the perinatal or maternal mortality is higher when modern obstetric facilities are available compared to the poor areas where the facilities are either limited or non existent.
Medical world has data both good and bad. You have been practicing for decades where is your data. For as God states if you are truthful then bring your proof. You have brought nothing but false hood.

hawk99

Peace Family,

I have nothing against adults who practice faith-healing of any sort because they are
adults and have the right to believe as they choose, I do have a problem with faith-
healing administered to children. drfazl, what is your position regarding the faith-
healing practice involving children?

May all have a Blessed ramadan

O0

drfazl

Peace
Bender

532 goes thus
Because of this did We ordain unto the children of Israel that if anyone slays a human being-unless it be for murder or for spreading corruption on earth-it shall be as though he had slain all mankind; whereas, if anyone saves a life, it shall be as though he had saved the lives of all mankind. And, indeed, there came unto them Our apostles with all evidence of the truth yet, behold, notwithstanding all this, many of them go on committing all manner of excesses on earth.

Corruption of life on this earth according to Quran is spreading the notion of association to God. There come unto them apostles such as Ibrahim, Ayyub with all evidence of this truth. Whoso makes one live on this earth in such manner shall be as though he had saved the lives of all mankind. Every messenger was sent with this truth when the people are afflicted with diseases and poverty.

And, indeed, We sent Our messages unto people before your time, and seized them with diseases and poverty so that they might humble themselves

The MM is not humble or honest in its claim. But arrogance and transgression rules the roost.

fazl

drfazl

Please visit this site

http//articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/03/30/there-are-too-many-preventable-deaths-among-new-moms.aspx

Make man free from MM it is as though you have saved the entire mankind. And I am trying to.

Peace

zone