What is God's role with Born Disabled?
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Peace zone
There is no end to this. In my view, drfazl has lifted himself, in the realm of powerful imagination, to be beyond human beings, to be in communion with the God.
Dr Fazl perspective and your perspective, newmoon, of Reality or Truth will never be in convergence with mine and many of us here. I have a feeling that this will never happen because I have encountered and debated with your kind before.Sad to say you and I have different worldviews.
The only challenge is getting nearer to the truth about phenomena of creations, their meanings and laws in operation.
No need to be sad, definitely we would converge one day,
If instead of challenge,
If it is only, a growing WISH,
In getting nearer to the TRUTH about creations.
One day, the powerful imagination beyond
present human comprehension, would become a REALITY,
Only by HIS Admission.
Regards
BalaChandran
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In getting nearer to the TRUTH about creations.
One day, the powerful imagination beyond
present human comprehension, would become a REALITY,
Only by HIS Admission.
Submissiveness to God starts, only when I realize I'm wrong. All my knowledge keeps me in pride. My pride makes me believe this is right. This pride keeps me away, from God.
Peace br newmoon,
What you have quoted I agree.
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Peace everyone,
When I first heard through a friend of mine, that there is a Doctor who is treating patients without any medicine, the first word that came to my brain is "Fraud". This was in the year 2008. Why the word fraud - because it was unthinkable at that time, unbelievable and beyond my imagination. My brain/knowledge (shaitaan) didn't allow me to accept, understand or believe in it at first and that is why I thought it is fraud. May God forgive me for this and more.
All our knowledge is gained from books, hearsay from people and from what we see though our external eyes. We accept it readily, even when the data is cooked up sometimes. We were not taught to look beyond things, discern beyond what people say, look for hidden wisdom, think for ourselves - what is it I want or should wish for.
Years back, in my mind there were questions like - is there no cure for Blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, should we be on medicine life long... Have they never found a cure ... I saw movies where cancer patients go to such pitiable condition even while undergoing treatment and then die ultimately such a gory death after years of suffering. I heard from a docter who works in a cancer hospital how the patients suffer. The question lingered in my mind - no cure ??
Then I met Dr Fazl and started attending his meetings. Now I came to understand what causes disease and who to turn to for my need - cure. I have to turn to God, ask him to forgive me, cleanse me and heal me. The more my faith, the faster the cure. My question was answered.
There were so many questions and I kept asking and he answered them with utmost patience. I didn't understand I kept asking the same questions again. Now when I look back, I kept asking again because, it was not that I didn't understand the answer but it was unacceptable for my brain. Once I shed my knowledge, with God's help, I was able to accept it and God is pleased with such humility and ever since, my understanding has developed into amazement as to how God and His creations are.
That which does not increase, decreases or becomes stagnant/stale.
O God, help me to break free of the conditioning of my mind (closed mind) - that I know everything and what I know is correct.O God, help me to be open-minded to receive Truth.
O God, increase me in your wisdom.So the lesson I learnt is, if I don't understand it first, let me accept it and wait for understanding as it will definitely come. On what basis I am saying this. I have seen people suffering from chronic ailments for years, getting better and better and also, I have heard so many mothers delivering babies beautifully in their homes without any sort of medical help ( I visited some of them later).
Every delivery is unique. Some of them were told they will not have normal delivery - mother's hip bone is very narrow; baby's head is very large; baby's position is not upside down, there is no water inside the uterus, high/low blood pressure, first, second baby was through ceasarian. These were a few reasons told by doctors to the mothers. Eventually, they came to believe in God alone and they delivered normally, with God's help, comfortably in their homes.
Gita
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Peace
hawk99It is easy for those who believe in only Allah's words of truth. For example, you have heart pain. Your first reaction is panic. It is because, you hear to the noise of shaitan in your heart something terrible is going to happen. But prior to such cries of shaitan, Allah speaks to you to calm down and nothing to worry; I am with you if you are patient and listen to my words. When Allah is with you how can you go elsewhere seeking cure from people? This kind of belief is what I have. I do not care what people term it faith healing or otherwise. I in fact do not know what faith healing is. I only know I believe in all that which is said to my heart as good things as I know all goods come from Allah. And all evil against Allah's words are shaitans'.Take good things to heart and discard what is evil, whispered by shaitan. That is it. The good is effected. This is my practise.
With regard to children The patients adult or child when they come to me, I always pray to Allah, "If you cure this it would be a sign unto me from You, You are near; it wil increase and strengthen my belief in You." In every patient and all time my heart yearns for all goods come my way by His leave, so that my IMAN gets firmly implanted in my heart. So therein is a sign for me from Allah as per my prayer when it is answered; and the sign of cure is very much the same for the patients and the attendants of the child which they shall hold on to if the cure is to continue till end. If they do not it is just a sign for me that the patient is ok before me. Mostly the parents adhere to the belief and get their children better form their problems. Thus definitely, it is the patients or the parents belief that cured them and their children and not my prayer. My prayer is for my own iman's benefit. Thereafter it is up to the patients take it or leave it. But mostly the patients believe in One Allah, the Curer and seek His Grace to place their belief in Him alone. Every patient is very much concerned about their children and they seek the sign from Allah; and Allah duly delivers the fruits of such of their prayers. In this way, the children are a test only to their fathers and the children perse are not affected much heart wise.
If you have understood this, Allah shall send His Sign of healing to you and you can see the wonders happening in your life from every quarter. Surely my prayers are there for you. Allah if He will send His Sign unto me when you say Yes things are working! This should strengthen my Iman at the same time as you are being delivered of God's Grace. It is so easy. Believe only in Allah and nothing else.
Many of the people reject this approach to God alone to their own peril. And each one talks of faith-healing as if they knew them all. Definitely they are heavily the losers before God in the end, when they say O Allah, now we believe in you! On that their plea will not be heard.
hawk99, it is easy to practise in your life keeping Allah near you and driving shaitanic knowledge away. I do not know how far you wil follow. But my prayers are there. You are free to ask questions.
I say what I am and shall clarify any pertinent query; and am not here to argue or dispute others' views against this.
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Peace dr fadzl and newmoon.
There is no end to this. In my view, drfazl has lifted himself, in the realm of powerful imagination, to be beyond human beings, to be in communion with the God and to feel god-like. Dr Fazl perspective and your perspective, newmoon, of Reality or Truth will never be in convergence with mine and many of us here. I have a feeling that this will never happen because I have encountered and debated with your kind before.
I am living only by God's Providence; I have no imagination but from me is a plain narration as to what I am, based on the truth I have been placed; this information too, I said about me because you people repeatedly asked for it; and I have no god-like feel either. May I ask you from which part of my posts you got such weird suppositions about me? Nowhere I have debated on this topic for mostly I was put on the defensive. But I am being reminded of this ayat
"And they say Our hearts are under coverings from that to which you call us, and there is a heaviness in our ears, and a veil hangs between us and you, so work, we too are working."
Sad to say you and I have different worldviews. To me, there is nothing filthy about the knowledge that we, as humans, have discovered and constructed with our minds pertaining to Allah?s creations. The only challenge is getting nearer to the truth about phenomena of creations, their meanings and laws in operation. Everything is definite and in perfect measure for us to define, classifies, describe, explain and understand fully. Our understanding of phenomena evolves with time.
"And there is not a thing but with Us are the treasures of it, and We do not send it down but in a known measure."
"Say And you are not given aught of knowledge but a little."
Now who is trying to lift himself, in the realm of powerful imagination, to be beyond human beings, to be in communion with the God and to feel god-like? Is it not you and your kind of people?
Peace
drfazl -
hawk99, it is easy to practise in your life keeping Allah near you and driving shaitanic knowledge away. I do not know how far you wil follow. But my prayers are there. You are free to ask questions.
I say what I am and shall clarify any pertinent query; and am not here to argue or dispute others' views against this.Thank you drfazl for your explanation.
Generous ramadan to you
peace
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What a sad Situation, people are so much stuck with their own perception, and knowledge,(borrowed), they are not willing to at least see if there is something different in what Dr. Fazlur Rahaman Writes. People writing here are like, a blind man describing a elephant, who has never seen one.
I am one among the gifted person, to have experienced him, and have personally benefited by this wisdom. I am a Hindu by religion.
I am a Qualified Chartered Accountant (CPA) by profession. My knowledge is a miniscule before his wisdom. -
What a sad Situation, people are so much stuck with their own perception, and knowledge,(borrowed), they are not willing to at least see if there is something different in what Dr. Fazlur Rahaman Writes
.What makes you think that some of us have not seen what this character writes. The results are very nasty and unpleasant. There is nothing new in his writing. It is also amazing that so many on this thread Appear to have personally experienced his awesome power. Now isn't that a strange coin incidence that all you guys just happen to be also visiting this website.
People writing here are like, a blind man describing a elephant, who has never seen one.
I am one among the gifted person, to have experienced him, and have personally benefited by this wisdom. I am a Hindu by religion.Strange really a Hindu who happens to be visiting a Quran only website and even bigger coincidence has benefited from the character central to this thread.
Also surprised that you are still a Hindu considering that you have witnessed the miracle of a Muslim faith healer.I am a Qualified Chartered Accountant (CPA) by profession. My knowledge is a miniscule before his wisdom.
What relevance has chartered accountant with healing? Or are you trying to impress by your professional qualifications.
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Salam,
BenderI appreciate your concern, but falling into the trap of MM is disastrous and close to committing suicide. The MM would get the signature from the wife and husband that the doctors would not be held responsible if the mother or the child dies; or even if both of them die during delivery.
Allah alone is the creator of life in the womb. But of all the systems of medicine, the MM alone arrogantly invades and meddles with the interior of the blessed womb, like postponing menstruation, surgical intervention like D & C, inserting copper-T, cutting and tying ip the fallopian tube, administration of dead and synthetic oestrogen, progesterone which would severely disturb or inhibit the natural and life enriched reproductive hormones by feed-back mechanism. This causes all sorts of menstrual disorder and uterine dysfunction leading to every complication the mother suffering during pregnancy and delivery. The MM's invasive and messing up methodologies involving scanning radiations is the cause of many genetic disorders. The vitamin B6, iron, calcium supplements severely damages the functioning ability of kidneys and cause even heart defects in the babies. Even the mothers end up in life threatening toxaemic pregnancies. Most maternal and foetal deaths occur only because of such arrogant interventions by MM. Most mothers suffer the beginning of diabetes for the first time is again due to the stress caused by the drugs administered to the mother in the name of prenatal care. They would immediately give it a name gestational diabetes. And soon they would become a diabetic patient. The growing foetus would get affected too with diabetes in its later stages of development after birth.
Any system of medicine can help in delivery because of their humility and fear for God. The only system to be shunned and thrown to dustbin is MM. From pregnancy to delivery, the highest mortality rate is only with MM. I have given so many links to support this truth in this thread, just two pages before. Please go through such links and you would know.
fazl
Salaamun alayka,
I was only commenting on the phrase I quoted.
I am not sure what MM stands for as I did not read every post in this thread and I have zero knowledge about medicines.
Anyway, I am against doctors who want to change the creation of Allah, but I am for doctors who want to save a life.
I think every doctor knows his/her purpose of his/her actions and I think every "patient" knows why he/she is consulting a doctor, and Allah is The Judge of the judges.Salaam,
Bender -
Do you people seriously want a link war? There are horrific cases on BOTH sides. As is clear from the link, doctors like Dr. Mayer said you shouldn't be doing that and that there are proper procedures to be followed. They got investigated and found lacking with the penalties associated with it. It's not something that's kept secret.
Who's going to be investigating drfazl's 'patients'? Apparently no one. On one hand he asks for money, calls them patients and is active in giving them 'advice/prayers' and on the other he says I've nothing to do with anything...it's all Allah. So no responsibility on the 'doctor' whatsoever. I see the sense in it, since if he's ever questioned he can say they were foolish enough to give me money even though I had no power to help them. Both are responsible though to what extent only Allah knows best.
Anyone can twist and turn the sitch into whatever they want, it's not dirty money! it's to launder their money! It's for Allah! Even though I use it! whatever. The bottom line is, money is being exchanged, people are coming over to 'get cured' and at the epicentre of all this is drfazl who apparently beams with a saintly light like buddha having achieved nirvana. Just look at what his followers people say?
I am one among the gifted person, to have experienced him, and have personally benefited by this wisdom.
My knowledge is a miniscule before his wisdom.
There were so many questions and I kept asking and he answered them with utmost patience.
This post is reminiscent of people in other places going 'I too have benefited you can too! Try drfazl's miraculous brand of healing today!' the man makes my potted plants shrink in awe! none so rare as can compare to drfazl and his fiddlers three!' and so on and on in this thread alone, who knows what further wonders the website holds since my access is blocked.
If it was just some guy off the street going turn to Allah alone, no one else, that is all and thanks for all the fish...I'd invite him to have dinner or something. It's a beautiful message. It starts turning ugly when people make a livelihood out of it, add in lies and other histrionics to make it more forceful, use verses in ways that would boggle most anyone's mind and then have the audacity to say
2000 is only a wretched paltry price to receive Allah's Mercykgwithnob is spot on here
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Peace.
There are things we were given with abilities and disabilities. We were put in a situation of no choice. The no choice situation is a condition we have to learn to accept and live with. It is in that condition we begin our journey of discovering, learning, and seeking the Truth, in constructing our belief, shaping our thoughts, molding our intentions, professing our emotions and directing our actions. It is in that condition we reason, we decide and we choose whether to be positive or negative, who and what to blame or to blame or not to blame, and so on and so forth.
I think and I believe that this is my condition. Everyone is subjected to his/her own conditioning. So live in it or not to live in it? It is one?s condition in his/her life-time zone. In that condition, within that life span, I can choose to surrender or to strive.
The day will come when I shall meet the God, and I have to decide what would be my best approach to be in the meeting. I have to reason out whether I should ask, what have you got for me for my total surrender or I should ask, I have believed and I am certain on this Meeting and I am ready to receive and read my book of deeds.
Should I seek other for guidance and help?
My Lord,
16-7 Guide us to the straight path. The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked anger or of those who are astray.Think about it. hmm
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Ooh a direct response! Should I feel honoured your high buddhaness? hail
I'm pretty sure parts of your website aren't working = blocked access. Fix it please, so I can get material for the next installment.
peace
p.s. does this voodoo remind you of acupuncture in any way? Just curious, is all.
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Peace.
There are things we were given with abilities and disabilities. We were put in a situation of no choice. The no choice situation is a condition we have to learn to accept and live with. It is in that condition we begin .....
After this starting, the rest of the post seems to be on an antithesis journey. I am not sure what you are trying to convey.
drfazl
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What is God's role in the born disabled?
God's role is to clearly tell us that our spending our time and efforts all throughout lives in the intense and invasive cold-blooded, savage assault on the womb, the world of the growing baby from a seed. All you do in the name of treatment or in the name of 'saving' the patient is hysterectomy. Allah says do not say even that you do not do. But here you believed MM more than your God who ransack the womb which they cannot create, thus causing injustice to your souls. So they have to taste a severe punishment plus utmost hatred of Allah. The born disabled are the handiwork of MM, Allah has no role in it, in the least.
- The likeness of what they spend in the life of this world is as the likeness of wind in which is intense cold that smites the seed produce of a people who have done injustice to their souls and destroys it; and Allah is not unjust to them, but they are unjust to themselves.
drfazl