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    Mazhar
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    The biggest progress is the minimization of multiple meanings of words. In many cases I have narrowed their meaning down to simply one.

    This is but an error and a wrong approach. Please just read about "types of meanings of a word", you might get a book about it by google search. Like English, same is the phenomenon in Arabic, but more precise and succicnt because of different types of nouns and verbs, each of which will carry a specific meaning, despite being from the same root. One needs to put in the translation all the additional meanings added in a word by change of vowelling, prefixes, infixes and suffixes alongwith basic meanings of original consonants.

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      95 So when the restricted months have passed, then you may kill the polytheists wherever you find them, and take them, and surround them, and stand against them at every point. If they repent and they are mindful of the lesson/teaching and become purified, then you shall leave them alone. God is Forgiving, Merciful.

      Where are you people? Do you still believe in prayer for salat? Or otherwise just kill like maniacs, kill kill kill!!!

      Please re-read your quote and you might find it self contradictory. You have killed the polyteists wherever you found them. Then how will they repent and become mindful of the lesson?

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        Peace,

        This is but an error and a wrong approach.

        That is your opinion. I find that out from the root of a word of Arabic it has very few alternative meanings. Of course the affix system causes words to receive slightly different meanings depending on perspective, but the original "mental image" always remains the same.

        Please just read about "types of meanings of a word", you might get a book about it by google search.

        That is because there are people like you who have conjectured a lot.

        Like English, same is the phenomenon in Arabic, but more precise and succicnt because of different types of nouns and verbs, each of which will carry a specific meaning, despite being from the same root.

        It is not very prevalent in Arabic compared to English, if at all. The words work their way out of a root which is a combination of letters forming a mental image of action or form. But they stay around the root's meaning even if you add affixes or make a compound word.

        The cases I have encountered where they are allegedly different in meaning have been errors in interpretation. Deliberate or not I do not know.

        Please re-read your quote and you might find it self contradictory. You have killed the polyteists wherever you found them. Then how will they repent and become mindful of the lesson?

        It could be further contradiction within the scripture. I was just basing mine on current translations. But if they repent and become mindfully observing what they have been enlightened about then let them be. What is hard to understand? Cannot you read the gist even if you do not have a entirely accurate translation?

        Rest assured I will eventually carefully go through the passage and correct it to the best of my ability.

        What seems more dogmatic and zealous, and thus unrighteous? Forcing them to obey the commandments, which is so they are not treating people with oppression and injustice or force them to observe a ritualistic prayer?

        You have killed the polyteists

        It did not say that you have killed them, just a word to kill them. I do not understand why you are to hooked up on details? It quite easy logic, you kill them as long as they do not repent and follow the way of God, which is no oppression and injustice. I have my suspicions about the word used to kill, but as long I have no better alternative then it is kill. It does not cause any zealotry here with the understanding of holding to the enlightenment of God anyway, because you are to kill them when they are not living in the way of God. Goodness by friend.

        The faith of God is about being one with God (faith) and be/do good. It falls down to that if you contract all commandments down to a watchword.

        Have faith

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          Peace Man Of Faith.

          Please allow me to add the word "believe" that goes with doing good.

          I know you talk a lot about doing good, we are in agreement there.

          However to "believe" requires taking what GOD says seriously and following His instructions/commands without hesitation...

          Sometimes we need to really be sure about our own opinions/deductions/understanding...

          For example your explanation about"Shuaib" verse,I do not agree with, my understanding of it is straight forward and does not contradict "salat" .
          Shuaib s people are telling him are your "Sallawat" are instructing/telling you that we should leave serving/worshiping how our parents do .i.e Perhaps He was devoting his "sallawat" to GOD Alone and they were not?
          Then they add "" we will do with our provision/earnings..what we want.." this bit is to do with "zakat" and not "sallawat".
          As you know GOD mentions "salat" and "zakat " together many times in Qoran.
          Yes and I know that "zakat" can also mean different things in different verses!
          If Shuaib message to his people was similar to most messengers ,then he was correcting their deviations from polytheism to GOD Alone?
          There is no issue there?
          Of course that is my understanding.
          GOD bless you.
          Peace.

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            That is your opinion. I find that out from the root of a word of Arabic it has very few alternative meanings. Of course the affix system causes words to receive slightly different meanings depending on perspective, but the original "mental image" always remains the same.

            I keep pointing out
            Arabic words stem from Roots. Each Root has specific, defined, distinct, conspicuous, apparent perception folded in it . Words, originating from these Roots on various well defined patterns-moulds-structuring frames retain the original perception infolded in the Root, dominantly and conspicuously, with additional meanings and connotation, shades and colours added by the peculiar pattern-placing of vowels-syllabification and addition of consonants. Moreover, relational aspect of the semantic field will also influence and add connotations to the word. Hence; the meanings, perception and connotation of an Arabic Word is the composite whole of the perception infolded in its Root, coupled with meanings associated with its pattern, and its relation to the semantic field where it is used. It signifies that the basic meanings of a Root and word do not exhaust when they are used in a different semantic field, relational area, while necessarily retaining the base meanings.

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              Peace Mazhar,

              Okay okay. Thanks for your information.

              Be whole

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                Peace good logic.

                Thanks for your input, and I am verily not intending to be arrogant in my replies. But regarding iman I have also my own understanding.

                I know you talk a lot about doing good, we are in agreement there.

                Thank God we are.

                However to "believe" requires taking what GOD says seriously and following His instructions/commands without hesitation...

                I have a slightly different perspective on the phenomenon called belief/faith which is referred to in Arabic as IMAN. The Commandments are a "tool" to get faith, a way of purification and when we are purified we are whole. In fact, the word IMAN could be regarded as being whole to the Oneness that is God. All this purification that we do by adhering to the decree is done so that we are whole with God, that we are MUMINS. It is a quite advanced topic actually, and I suppose you both have to be open-minded and not so critical about it.

                I suppose you ever heard the expression; "Become one with nature", it is much so with this too except that it is with The Singularity that is God and the creation is its mass. KAFIROON are anomalies/impurities within the "sphere" so to say.

                What we actually build up is purity to be whole and not an anomaly to God, like a distortion or corruption.

                And I do NOT, ever, hesitate to follow the commands of my Master and your Master so long that they are truthful to the decree given by God.

                Sometimes we need to really be sure about our own opinions/deductions/understanding...

                This is why I work day and night interpreting the discourse from cover to cover as of lately as to minimize my own guessing of what it means. The key is to make sure that every word, even verbs without substance, are interpreted as intended by the original author, i.e. God. There is a lot of words that have come clear to me since I started researching.

                And the reason why I have trouble trusting the traditional interpreters is because of this passage

                6116 And if you obey most of those on the earth they will lead you away from the path of God; that is because they follow conjecture, and that is because they only guess.

                The problem did not end in discarding the lies about Muhammad and idolatry of the prophet. You have to discarded the faulty inferences based on that hadith too in the interpretation of the scripture that is flawed by that same logic. If one studies you can clearly see that the interpretation is tainted by the understanding from hadith.

                For example your explanation about"Shuaib" verse,I do not agree with, my understanding of it is straight forward and does not contradict "salat" .
                Shuaib s people are telling him are your "Sallawat" are instructing/telling you that we should leave serving/worshiping how our parents do .i.e Perhaps He was devoting his "sallawat" to GOD Alone and they were not?

                In a way SALAT for Shuayb here has been communication with God, and he is preaching to his people that they should be enlightened by him about God. It is a kind of correspondence that comes relayed by him to them. It is however not referred to a monotonous ritual with no (apparent) purpose (other than perhaps glorification to God). None of the cases within the recitation that is called Qur'an refer to a ritualistic prayer however, even if such a one is absolutely not forbidden, although the best prostration is done with the heart.

                If Shuaib message to his people was similar to most messengers ,then he was correcting their deviations from polytheism to GOD Alone?
                There is no issue there?

                No. What he did there we can probably agree on. But the point is that the SALAT word (derivative) is used in the passage.

                Thanks for your communication and I hope God will have you purified.

                Be whole

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                  Peace muslims,

                  Each knows its LESSON (teaching/instruction). You see they already alem (know) it in the phrase.

                  This is the breakthrough in interpretation of salat that I have been working on for several months.

                  Perhaps what you've translated 'salat' as the 'teaching/instruction' have connection with the whole system of study that I've been incorporated in the Muslim Atheism. . . ie. It is not only the 'teaching/instruction' but the 'instruction' is referring to the whole set of guidance for 'read, refine, practice and wisdom' . . "the study system". . . the theological system.

                  This is the primary objective and tasks of the Messenger, ie. why he was sent. . .

                  To reform them by 'teaching' the 'theological system' and "Although they were before in clear error" (62.2)

                  Quran = Theology
                  ie. manual to study and understand the signs of justly balanced in life and the universe etc.

                  and it got nothing to do with religion

                  The Formula

                  It is He who has sent among the unlettered
                  a Messenger from themselves

                  1. reciting to them His verses and
                  2. purifying them and
                  3. teaching them the Book
                  4. and wisdom
                    although they were before in clear error
                    (622)

                  The system of study

                  http//3.bp.blogspot.com/-3CjIaaUA9rA/U-dfRMn9AAI/AAAAAAAABCA/nP0RNHEuTQ8/s1600/formulas.png

                  The theological system .

                  This is the whole system of guidance from the Quran and Sunnatullah.

                  The Quran is the manual for becoming a Successor (Khalifa). Oneness.

                  http//2.bp.blogspot.com/-7WgxzgsoC-o/U-j9lAlsh7I/AAAAAAAABGE/4E_hwcgCVsk/s1600/theology.png

                  Islam is Free Will - Freedom

                  http//1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ov7n6emoRa8/U-j_TIHqfbI/AAAAAAAABGY/clrljg92e54/s1600/study.png

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                    Peace,

                    It has been interesting perusing this thread, especially regarding salat.

                    I have some questions.

                    In accepting the language of quran being dependent on usage by Arabic speakers, how does one decide whether to use the way it is spoken today or in the 7th century?

                    If it is the way it is spoken today, then the question arises as to why God's message should be subject to the whims of how people cause their language to evolve.

                    If it is the way it was spoken in the 7th century, then the question arises as to how we can ascertain 7th century usage today.

                    I would submit that the key to acceptable translation is consistency of usage by the author.

                    I look forward to some responses before commenting further on roots and derivations as well as the topic of salat.

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                      Spiritual harmony be with you,

                      Since I last wrote on this thread my knowledge of salat and many other Arabic words has improved dramatically and I could provide better information regarding it and other words. Kafar is not really opponent as I suggested but a deluded person, someone without foundation. Salaat(eh) means literally "Perception that be character thereby" which obviously must be put in a context. I can explain in a post tomorrow because now I am tapping on a smartphone and near bedtime. But basically I can say it means to stay in the light and not lose the perception of what is good. It often goes together with the zakaat(eh) word, for a reason.

                      Be of one with God

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                        Peace MoF,

                        Before declaring what salat means it may be worthwhile considering that the root in many cases is not , but rather .

                        Imraan

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                          Yes. But that it says as a root is because the third letter determines "cause-of-effect" of the Arabic word (just as in ketab the third letter implies cause-person-BY referring to first part of the word but since in salawa it is a conjunction it refers to "external" words). The root means "perceive definite meaning it needs a subject to refer to for description. If it was only it would merely mean "behold (something) much like means express (something), literally "express that" just as hence is "perceive that".

                          Hence the answer with the praying at the evil man's funeral may in fact rather refer to "attend" using the form of .

                          The salat(eh) word with insight actually consists of the letters but the last two form a combined letter, i.e. , but while making a deep analysis they must be separated. The alef (&#1575 after gives the "cause-of-effect" which is referred back on oneself basically BE character thereby (which can be understood to mean to be according to the hints of how a man or woman should be found in the narration).

                          I yet have not put myself in front of the computer and yet tap on my smartphone so to make a better elaboration has to wait until then.

                          But I would urge you to understand that aqum assalat is to keep yourself and your perception focused on yourself and not lose the track.

                          Be of one with God

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                            1CELOSTNOWFOUND
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                            Peace MoF

                            Here is a link to an initial research I did on roots a while ago. It may be of interest to you.
                            https//www.dropbox.com/s/tc4bxpg5he0m82p/The%20%D8%B5%20%D9%84%20Roots.pdf?dl=0

                            Imraan

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                              SALAT - A return to put SALAT under the microscope

                              Spiritual harmony be upon you, 1CELOSTNOWFOUND

                              Now I took the time to boot up the computer and sit in front of it.

                              I briefly read the document you linked to. It is therefore quite much following the suggestion I had regarding the structure of Arabic words. The third letter generally suggests "cause-of-effect" as I call it here. in this case is one morpheme which causes the word to form the meaning of "definitely perceive", while the third letter, dependable upon what you like to say, takes a varying letter (to make a cause-of-effect) as you suggested yourself through your document.


                              Let me refer to your document and the examples you put forth by explaining the Arabic

                              • The examples you suggested seem to point that it means to "make visible", take this for example "We cleared the grain that was mixed with dust, or earth, from the dust, or earth, by pouring water upon it", but rather than as the "Lane's Lexion" suggests it rather means that now the grain is (clearly) perceptible because you cleansed it from dust or earth. The symbol indicates a mental image of perception, and it is also a reason why the same symbol is used in the Arabic word for 'eye' since Arabic words are descriptive in form and it indicates 'perception'.

                              • I do not entirely agree with the Lexion's definition of the word, but it means someone is witted, i.e. quick to react because the perception is strong. If is was as an attribute before a word for "God" then it would mean that the person is strong/determined in its perception of God.

                              • Could be understood as that a person is seeing what is good. The symbol seems to refer to 'good'. This person has a perception of what is good.

                              • The condition of being . The symbol refers to condition/state, and reflects upon the first part of the word since the last letter in formation of the base word gives "cause-of-effect". Perhaps "steadfast" or something could be derived from the word, or having a clear and firm possessed vision on how to perceive the world.

                              • "The ass drove together his she-asses, and made them to take the way .", as in the example this an interesting example using a donkey. Simply replace the donkey with God or the image you like to follow instead and you know what "salawa" means (and thus salat(eh) as well which has the subject to thereon follow in the word structure itself).


                              Salaat(eh) is thus not simply one word but in fact at least four words in the same compound Sal ' a ' t ' eh, but one who knows the truth actually know that there are no real roots but the true root is the on letter level.

                              Hence it explains my extremely literal interpretation of it as "Perceive definite BE character thereby". Please put that "alternative" interpretation into the context of the scripture called Qur'an and you shall see that it becomes clearer whenever it occurs. And you are rid of rituals even while being faithful to the original text, because you perceive what the scripture actually talks about. Is that not wonderful?

                              Red Gives outcome of the first two letters and hence linking it to the following words in the compound, i.e. BE. Alef as a letter means no less than the condition of 'being'. Perceive definite BE, character thereby, with thereby (kind of object pronoun) to be a reflexive letter referring to what has just been spoken of contextually.

                              The last page of your PDF file I have trouble agreeing with completely.

                              As for I cannot agree that it means to burn

                              as a phrase with the word you suggested means to "feel the fire". refers to as I call it (whom depending on context) while refers to thereby and following word.

                              One must also remember that all the referred words starting with ought to have somewhat similar meaning. Perceive can also commonly be referred to "feel" or "sense".

                              Probably one can translate 430's portion involving the word, , as "Soon he will perceive/feel a fire" (except that I must research more on to really make out that it clearly refers to fire because it could theoretically mean "what is the foundation&quot.

                              Be of one with God

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                                M o F "Salat(eh)" proposition v. 2.0 part I

                                The "exemplary model"

                                Before we begin

                                I made posts a while ago (called v.1.x), but these can be considered scratched after I managed to understand more of the Arabic language and also the intricate meaning of w ( is a contraction of and &#1607 and while my original understanding was in ways in the right direction it was not accurate. Those (if any) who had faith in what I wrote the last time do not have to worry because it is a matter of precision and not a rerouted direction of the understanding. Lesson was not too bad an interpretation, but it is not completely accurate either. The previous post as an answer to '1CELOSTNOWFOUND' was a first glance at this understanding, but in this post I am going to take a look into all instances of the derivative word which "salat(eh) consists of.

                                Before I begin I can show examples of why I consider the explanation in within parenthesis above to be correct. Let us look at Arabic text

                                (from 692)

                                Red Because the combination of words do not end with there is not made any contraction of and and hence it is spelled out as above. Many would argue that it is a suffix (grammatical function) called but that is only one aspect to look at it, and is also a suffix consisting of two grammatical functions.

                                (from 6192)

                                Red Also suffix usage. While above refers in plural with a reference point to context refers to , noteworthy "my" in the passage.

                                (from 999)

                                Red Also a grammatical reason why it has no assigned (forming &#1577 and that is because the person is specified in the context, i.e. the rasul/messenger. The causes an adhesive emphasis on the word. It affirms the suggestion that here it means the perception of character that the rasuul/messenger has. It does not refer to prayer as I have already showed. Refer to the point that '1CELOSTNOWFOUND' gave in an earlier post, I quote my reply (it is from Lane's Lexicon)

                                • "The ass drove together his she-asses, and made them to take the way .", as in the example this an interesting example using a donkey. Simply replace the donkey with God or the image you like to follow instead and you know what "salawa" means (and thus salat(eh) as well which has the subject to thereon follow in the word structure itself).

                                Red In 999 it refers as suggested towards the 'rasuul/messenger'. And in other instances it reflects back towards the person reading the text and tell people to think of what kind of person they are and their perception.


                                Deep analysis

                                (much text to browse through)

                                Let us begin to go through every single instance of the word allegedly derived from and check what happens with the qualitative aspect of the narration when it is changed into fitting this perception of the word. I can tell you that something nearly magical happens but yet it is nothing magical at all but the truth revealed.

                                Before I start let me introduce the 'salat(eh)' word broken down into morphemes

                                = Perception = Definite = Be = Character = "Thereby"

                                I hope through this morpheme level display you will understand the following analysis.

                                I will utilize 'Monotheist Translation' with modifications; most noteworthy where the Salat(eh) word occurs, but also wherever certain erroneously interpreted words occur amen/iman, qum, kafar, dhekr, telaw and many other instances. At this time I have no full translation of Qur'an that has been done by me, so I will have to live with 'Monotheist Translation' for now because it is the most accurate translation I know of. I will mark changed words from Monotheist Translation in bold and I underline phrases that are important to pay attention in conjunction to my analysis (such as in 283 below "say kind things to the people&quot. The interesting thing is that this confirms my stance that "behavior and deeds" are very important aspects of our faith, and it occurs many times through the Qur'an, actually exactly 98 times.

                                23 Those who are of one in the "unseen", and "have a character like that", and from Our provisions to them they spend.
                                243 And "mind of your character", and be a purified character, and be humble with those who humble.
                                245 And seek help through patience and character/behavior/"public display". It is a difficult thing, but not so for the meek.
                                283 And We took the covenant of the Children of Israel ?You shall not serve except God, and do good to your parents, and regard the relatives, and the orphans, and the needy, and say kind things to the people and mind your character, and be a purified character.? But then you turned away, except for a few of you; you were objecting.
                                2110 And mind your character, and be a purified character; and what you bring forth of good for your souls you will find it with God. God is watching what you do.

                                Note Aqum assalateh literally means "Be express thereof - the perception definite be character thereby", indicating that one should be the kind of person that the scripture suggests (important emphasis on the 'meem' which has a contextual reference).

                                Atoo azzakateh together with the subject of this analysis may ironically enough refer to my constant reminding on the forum of Behavior and deed, where atoo azzakateh refers to one's actions where (kaaf) indicates a "manipulation/action" of sorts while (za)may indicate a form of the letter I already know it innate meaning of, i.e. (ra)= foundation, concrete or something solid. It may henceforth mean that it refers to behavior and deed with "aqum asalaateh wa atoo azzakaateh". In fact I find it such a breakthrough for me that I am going to go with this interpretation from hereon now.

                                2125 And We have made the Assembly to be a model for the people and how to be like. And you shall take, from the example of Abraham, a way to behave. And We entrusted to Abraham and Ishmael ?You shall purify My Assembly for those who visit, and those who are devoted, and the humbly respectful.
                                NoteI have objections against the translation above, but it is time-consuming to re-translate the whole passage at this time considered I am already in progress of making my own translation.

                                2153 O you who are thereof one , seek help through patience and behavior, God is with the patient ones.

                                2157 For those there will be upon them behavior from their Lord and a mercy, they are the guided ones.
                                Note In 2157 the translator chooses to ignore in the translation.

                                2177 Piety is not to turn your "minds" towards the east and the west , but pious is one who is like in God and the Realm, and the angels, and the Decree, and the prophets, and who gives money out of love to the relatives, and the orphans, and the needy, and the wayfarer, and those who ask, and to free the slaves; and who minds behavior and performs deeds; and those who keep their pledges when they make a pledge, and those who are patient in the face of adversity and hardship and when in despair. These are the ones who have been truthful, and these are the righteous.

                                2238 "Pay attention" on your behavior; and the best behavior; and show it to God dutifully.

                                2277 Those who are alike and do good works, and mind the behavior and perform deeds; they will have their recompense with their Lord and there is no fear over them nor will they grieve.

                                339 So the angels called to him and while he was showing of good behavior in the temple enclosure ?God gives you glad tidings of John, authenticating the word from God, and a master, and steadfast, and a prophet from the upright.?
                                Note It should be noted that translators often omit words in this text and add letters as well which are unfounded. Even a temple is invented.

                                443 Please see the translation of 56 of what I think of this passage.

                                477 Did you not see those who were told ?Cease your aggression and mind the behavior and perform deeds.? But when fighting was decreed for them, a group of them were concerned towards the people as they would have been concerned towards God or even more so. And they said ?Our Lord, why did You decree fighting for us? If only You would delay for us until another time.? Say ?The enjoyment of this world is little, and the Hereafter is far better for those who are aware; you will not be wronged in the least.?

                                4101 And if you go forth in the land, then there is no harm that you sharpen your behavior, if you fear that the deluded will try you. The deluded are to you a clear enemy/problem.
                                4102 And if you are with them then mind you behavior towards them, then let a "challengers" from among them talk with you and let them bring their arguments and if they have are respectful then let them proceed and let the "challengers" group who has not behaved come and then behave with you, and let them be mindful and bring their arguments. The deluded hope that you would neglect your arguments and blessings so they can "get the best of you". There is no sin upon you if you are impeded by an overwhelming sensation and hence confused, that you place down your arguments. And be mindful, God has prepared for the deluded a humiliating retribution.

                                Note The traditional "come upon you in one blow" indicates that it means like make you slip and say something that can be used against you (as a prophet). You see that there are several words that have been completely off in interpretation. Here is a list

                                • May mean something to attack with, but not necessarily a physical item. In this case it is the word fight of a prophet against people who want to try the prophet's capability. I would although say that it has nothing to do with attack at all, but the word implies what good one can come up with, like input.
                                • Rather implies that someone is unaware of right and wrong, like deluded by sects.
                                • Traditionally other, but I would argue that it refers to a particular "realm" and I choose group as translation above.
                                • Is supposed to refer to rain, but I would also interpret it as an overwhelming sensation.
                                • As a grammatical function (type of conjunction) I would say that it rather would equal to the English "and thus/hence". It is literally "Be hinting that it is adhesive to what has already been told. AM is the grammatical expression that means 'or'.
                                • Usually understood as 'sick', but I would rather say one has "foggy" perception, or easily said confused.

                                4103 Then if you have lost your behavior, "regard God while standing, or sitting, or on your sides". Then, if you are not a bad one, mind the behavior. Indeed, the behavior for the ones (thereof referring to God) is an important decree/commandment.

                                Green I take this as to reflect upon what has happened afterwards and see what you can do better next time.

                                4142 The hypocrites seek to deceive God, while He is deceiving them; and if they mind their behavior, they do so reluctantly only to show the people; they do not regard God except very little.

                                4162 But those of them who are well founded in knowledge, and the ones thereof, they are like what was sent down to you and what was sent down before you; and those who mind the behavior, and those who performs deeds, and those who are like in God and the Realm; to these We will give them their recompense greatly.
                                56 to those who are of one if mindful on the behavior without losing that spirit turned on you and be your attention on the weak and be of good spirit with your soul and be you humanly on the followers and be it should they stay away without right foundation and hence they be of dark foundation and thus on a spirit without foundation and thus shown/presented good ways from you from "gone right" and thus sought to be of the spiritual ones without possessing of be having intention ascend to become right without being a goodly person in turning to you and your hands from it of is intends God to make for you of how to be and to cause intend to (make) you right and to complete His/Her/Its blessings/gifts for you that you become appreciative ones

                                56 remains an experimental translation, but it is yet much closer to the truth than the original lame translation. It was done because people who could not see every other instance which I translated but were obsessed with this passage and 4102.

                                512 God has taken the covenant of the Children of Israel and raised from them twelve representatives, and God said ?I am with you if you mind the behavior and perform deeds, and are alike My messengers, and support them, and lend God a loan of righteousness; then I will cancel your sins and admit you into estates with rivers flowing beneath them.? Whoever is deluded after this from you, then he has strayed from the path.

                                555 For your supporter are God and His messenger and those who are alike; they mind the behavior and perform deeds, and they are humble.

                                558 And if you call for behavior, they take it for mockery and play. That is because they are a people who do not comprehend.

                                591 The devil only wants to cause strife between you through alcohol and gambling, and to repel you away from regarding God and behavior. Will you be deterred?

                                5106 O you who are of me, witnessing shall be done if death is approaching one of you and a will is being made, by two among you who are equitable. If you have gone forth in the land, and death is approaching, then any two may suffice - if you have doubt regarding them, then detain them after behavior, and they will swear by God ?We will not purchase with it any price, even if it was from a near relative, and we will not conceal the testimony of God, else we are of the sinners.?

                                672 And you shall mind the behavior, and be aware; and to Him you will be gathered.

                                692 And this is a Decree which We have sent down, blessed, truthful to what is between his hands, and that you may warn the capital of the towns and those around it. And those who are of in the Realm are like it, and they care about the behavior.

                                6162 Say ?My behavior, and my works, and my life, and my death, are all for God, Lord of the worlds.?

                                7170 As for those who hold fast to the Decree, and mind their behavior; We will not waste the reward of the righteous.

                                83 They mind the behavior, and from Our provisions to them they spend.

                                835 And their behavior at the Assembly was nothing but noise and aversion. Taste the retribution for what you have deluded about.

                                95 So when the restricted months have passed, then you may kill the polytheists wherever you find them, and take them, and surround them, and stand against them at every point. If they repent, and they mind the behavior and perform deeds, then you shall leave them alone. God is Forgiving, Merciful.
                                Note I do not stand by the translation above, but I lack down to sit down and research about it right now. But obviously you only "fight" if they are misbehaving and oppress you.

                                911 If they repent, and mind their behavior and perform deeds, then they are your brothers in the system. We explain the revelations for a people who know.

                                918 Rather, the assemblies of God are maintained by he who be thereof in God and the Realm, and minds his behavior, and performs his deeds, and is only concerned by God. It is these that will be of the guided ones.

                                954 And what prevented what they would spend from being accepted from them except that they are deluded about God and His messenger, and they do not care about their behavior except reluctantly, and they do not spend except unwillingly.

                                971 And the males thereof and the females thereof, they are allies to one another. They order good and prohibit vice, and mind their behavior, and perform their deeds and they obey God and His messenger. God will have mercy on them; God is Noble, Wise.

                                984 And do not "become emotional/make a display" for any of them who have died, nor stand at their grave. They have been deluded about God and His messenger and died while they were wicked.

                                999 And from the "Nomads" are those who are thereof in God and the Realm, and he looks upon what he spends to make him closer to God and the behavior of the messenger. It indeed makes them closer. God will admit them in His mercy; God is Forgiving, Merciful.

                                9103 Take from their money a charity to purify them and develop them with it, and keep your behavior with them; for your behavior is a tranquility for them; and God is Hearer, Knowledgeable.

                                1087 And We inspired to Moses and his brother ?You shall seek out assemblies for your people in Egypt; and leave your assemblies to be a "role model" and mind the behavior. And give good news to the ones.?

                                To be continued, God willing.

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                                  The "exemplary model"
                                  Continued deep analysis
                                  1187 They said ?O Shu?ayb, does your commanded behavior of yours mean that we leave what our fathers served, or that we do not do with our money as we please? It seems only you are the compassionate, the wise!?

                                  11113 And do not lean towards those who have wronged else you will incur the Fire; and you will not have besides God any allies, and you will not be victorious...
                                  11114 ...and keep the behavior in control and by the near part of the night the good deeds take away the bad. This is a concern to those who are concerned.
                                  Note I have reached to the conclusion that the first phrase in 11114 ( ) is an Arabic saying because it seems not possible to take it literally. 11113 is highly related to 11114 and should not be left out when trying to comprehend the context.

                                  1322 And those who are patient seeking the face of their Lord; and mind their behavior, and they spend from what We have bestowed upon them secretly and openly, and they counter evil with good; these will have an excellent abode.

                                  1431 Say to the ones who are My servants, that they should mind the behavior, and spend from what provisions We granted them secretly and openly, before a Day comes when there is no trade therein, nor will there be any friends.

                                  1437 ?Our Lord, I have made my progeny to be appear as a "good-founded" assembly, Our Lord, that them people may mind the behavior, so let the hearts of the people incline towards them and give provisions to them of the fruits that they may give thanks.?
                                  Note First phrase of the translation is an attempt at solving the thousand year falsehood with this passage which does whatsoever not relate to a building.

                                  1440 ?My Lord, let me mind the behavior, and also from my progeny. Our Lord, and accept my prayer.?
                                  Note In this very passage you have the real Arabic word for "prayer".

                                  1778 Mind the behavior till the setting of the sun; to the murkiness of the night; and recitation at "dawn" - recitation at "dawn" is kept.
                                  Note I do not entirely accept the interpretation of (al-fajr) I am going to look further into that issue at some point, but literally it is a disaster. One alternative would be that to focus on the written text on how to behave. If you study earlier passages in the context you see that the prophet nearly made a slip of tongue due to peer pressure. God is somewhat displeased in the context.
                                  1779 ...and from the night, as an addition, you shall reflect upon it for yourself, perhaps your Lord would grant you a station that is praiseworthy.

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                                    The "exemplary model"

                                    Continued deep analysis

                                    17110 Say ?Invoke God (lit. 'Be That (be) Thereby) or call on the Almighty (lit. 'Good Foundation' by whichever you would invoke, to Him are the best spirits.? And do not be too exaggerated in your behavior, nor too subtle; but seek a path in between.

                                    1931 ?And He has made me (Jesus) blessed wherever I am, and He has charged me with behavior and deeds for as long as I am alive.?
                                    Note That sounds like the Jesus I know.

                                    1955 And he (Ishmael) used to instruct his family towards behavior and deeds, and his Lord was pleased with him.

                                    1959 Then, generations came after them who lost the behavior, and followed desires. They will find their consequences.

                                    2014 ?I am God, there is no god except Me, so serve Me and mind the behavior for My sake.?

                                    20132 And instruct your family about behavior, and be patient about it. We do not ask you for provision, for We provide for you. And the ending will be for righteousness.

                                    2173 And We made them leaders who guide by Our command, and We inspired them to do good works and mind the behavior and perform deeds and they were in service to Us.

                                    2235 Those who, concerning God, their hearts are calmed, and they are patient to what befalls them, and mind their behavior, and from what We provide them they spend.

                                    2240 The ones who were driven out of their homes without justice, except that they said ?Our Lord is God!? And if it were not for God intervening in the chaos of people, then many means of insight, pledges, and behavior and humble ones who regard the spirit of God much would have been lost. God will give victory to those who support Him. God is Powerful, Noble...

                                    2241 ...those whom if We allow them to have authority in the land, mind their behavior and perform their deeds, and they prohibit vice. And to God is the conclusion of all matters.

                                    2278 And strive in the cause of God its truly deserved striving. He is the One who has chosen you, and He has made no hardship for you in the system, the ways of your father Abraham; He is the One who was your definite spirit thereof from before and in this. So let the messenger be witness over you and you be witness over the people. So mind the behavior and perform deeds and hold tight to God, He is your patron. What an excellent Patron, and what an excellent Supporter.

                                    232 Those who are meek in their behavior.

                                    239 And those who guard their behavior.

                                    2437 By men not distracted by trade or sale from the sake of God and minding the behavior, and perform deeds. They fear a Day when the hearts and sight will be overturned.

                                    2456 And mind the behavior and perform deeds, and obey the messenger, that you may attain mercy.

                                    2458 O you who are ones (thereof), instruct those who are maintained by your oaths and those who have not perfected their ways among you, about three things; firstly about behavior of wickedness, and then example on how to physically appear, and lastly about behavior of courtesy. These are three instructions for you. After this it is no sin for you or them to challenge/discuss between one another. God thus clarifies the revelations for you. And God is Knowledgeable, Wise.
                                    Note This passage has been SOO much of a nuisance, but I have learned a great deal by studying it and trying to reveal the false links. "Fajr" has an alternative interpretation (3828, 8042, 8214 and 837) according to the 'Corpus Qur'an' website and is wicked (F = Exclusion J = Humble R = Foundation) which actually suits the context very well about behavior and on "esha" I simply had to cross-check all occurrences of the word and draw the conclusion of its meaning together with my knowledge of the innate meaning of the letters. is sort of association or even appreciation. It is used in which means appreciate and is when a person "appreciates/attributes himself towards evil". would indicate "Upon Appreciation Be". I would never have gotten this far without my latest insight into the innate meaning of the Arabic letters.


                                    I went through this passage before, but now I may actually be able to solve it

                                    1778 Mind the behavior till the setting of the sun; to the murkiness of the night; and recitation about wickedness - recitation about wickedness is kept.
                                    Note I actually begin to realize the sentence is supposed to end after the first wickedness and then it is another sentence. Like this

                                    1778-79 Mind the behavior till the setting of the sun; to the murkiness of the night; and recitation about wickedness

                                    Observe a recital about wickedness and from the night, as an addition, you shall reflect upon it for yourself, perhaps your Lord would grant you a station that is praiseworthy.

                                    This is just another show that people who inserted the verses into Qur'an were not able to comprehend it fully. I had always been curious why the Arabic language seemed so stupid in 1778 up until now. It is the confusion of the verse numbering system that caused the issue.


                                    273 Those who mind the behavior, and contribute towards purification, and regarding the Hereafter they are certain.

                                    2945 Convey what is inspired to you of the Decree and mind the behavior, for the behavior prohibits immorality and vice; but certainly the sake of God is the greatest. God knows everything you do.

                                    3031 Turn to Him, and be aware of Him, and mind the behavior, and do not be of those who associate foundation.

                                    314 Those who mind the behavior, and perform deeds and regarding the Realm they are certain.

                                    3117 ?O my son, mind the behavior and advocate righteousness and prohibit vice, and be patient to what befalls you. These are the most honorable traits.?

                                    3333 You shall be content in your assemblies, and do not show off like in the old days of ignorance. You shall mind the behavior and perform deeds, and obey God and His messenger. God wishes to remove any taint from you, O people of the Assembly, and to purify you completely.

                                    3343 He is the One who gives you behavior, along with His angels, to bring you out of darkness and into the light. And He is ever Merciful towards the ones thereof.

                                    3356 God and His angels give the prophet his behavior. O you who are alike, you shall have that behavior, and comply completely.
                                    Note In some cases it is clear that one can also regard this word to mean character or image of how to be.

                                    3518 And none can carry the load of another; and even if it calls on another to bear part of its load, no other can carry any part of it, even if they were related. You will only be able to warn those who are concerned towards their Lord while unseen, and mind their behavior. And whoever contributes, is contributing for himself. And to God is the final destiny.

                                    3529 Surely, those who convey the Decree of God and mind the behavior, and spend secretly and openly from what We have provided them, they are seeking a trade that can never lose.

                                    4238 And those who have responded to their Lord, and mind their behavior, and their affairs are conducted by mutual consultation among themselves, and from Our provisions to them they give.

                                    5813 Are you reluctant to offer a charity before such meeting? If you cannot do such, and God has forgiven you; then you shall mind the behavior and perform deeds, and obey God and His messenger. God is fully Aware of everything you do.

                                    629 O you who are alike, if I call towards behavior on "the assembly day" then you shall be so for the sake of God and this alliance is better for you, if only you knew.

                                    6210 Then if the behavior is reformed then enjoy the world and seek the provisions of God, and regard God frequently that you may succeed.

                                    7022 Except for behaving ones

                                    7023 Who always pay attention to behavior.

                                    7034 And those who guard their behavior.

                                    7320 Your Lord knows that you rise a little less than two thirds of the night, and half of it, and one third of it; and a group of those who are with you. And God measures the night and the day. He knows that you will not be able to keep-up, so He pardons you. So read what is made easy of the Recitation. He knows that there will be confused among you, and others that go forth in the land seeking from the bounty of God, and others who are fighting in the cause of God, so read what you can of it. And mind the behavior and perform deeds and lend God a loan of righteousness. And whatever you put forth yourselves, you will find it with God, for it is better and a greater reward. And seek the forgiveness of God, for God is Forgiving, Merciful.

                                    7443 They said ?We were not as those who behaved.?

                                    7531 For he was not thereof one nor behaved.

                                    8715 And regards the spirit of his Lord, then behaves.

                                    9610 A servant from behaving?


                                    985 And they were not commanded except to serve God and be loyal
                                    to His system, monotheists, and mind the behavior and perform deeds. Such is the valuable system.


                                    1074 So woe to the behaving ones,

                                    1075 Who are towards their behavior absent minded.

                                    1082 Hence behave towards your Lord and be goodly


                                    Finally this analysis is over. It took its sweet time, but I hope at least a few people will comprehend and finally discard this Prayer-ritual delusion that is widespread regarding Salat(eh). And on top of that I am so confident that my drive to preach this increased dramatically so people will have to get their earplugs or ignore button ready now if they are deluded. I am sooo 100% certain about this behavior interpretation that I can swear by God that this is it.

                                    It also worries me that some foolish people could invent a total Pagan religion out of this innocent scripture with Pagan ritualism from a word that means something so obvious as behavior.

                                    It also interests me that I begun proclaiming behavior and deeds far earlier than I discovered that "aqum assalateh wa atoo azzakateh" means the same thing as I have been proclaiming for quite some time.

                                    The title of this thread is very true First Nearness and Guidance which includes "behavior and deeds", then one gets Knowledge and Wisdom and in the end they have Peace and Prosperity. And together we are the Realm. The older images of diagrams in this thread are not entirely accurate. Please disregard them. I may make a new one.

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                                      M o F "Salat(eh)" proposition v. 2.0 part IVThe "exemplary model"
                                      Discussion and contextual analysis

                                      I henceforth wonder how even one person in the world could any longer think that 'salat(eh)' refers to a primitive ritual after this elaboration without being blind to what has been suggested about its meaning. It does not add up, the strongholds neatly used by propagators; 443, 4102, 56 and 2458 are not strong enough arguments to defend a ritualistic practice even if my current attempts at translation/interpretation of them are yet not entirely accurate, although I am actually fairly satisfied with 4102. Salat(eh) as a ritual does not fit the context and that is an important aspect, and that was also clear in the earlier version of my proposition I had, but now the signs are too clear to ignore anymore.

                                      That it stands for behavior is ultimately clear from my investigation and it is a bit humiliating from my side to not have come to this conclusion earlier already, particularly since I have advocated that "God's" concept relies on "Behavior and Deeds" without perceiving what I advocated was in the very words that I sought to find the true answer for. It also makes me wonder about subconscious guidance.

                                      I am too tired of making these deep analyses, but we can take a look upon a few important contexts where ritual salat(eh) is usually propagated

                                      243 And mind the behavior, and perform deeds and be humble with those who are humble.
                                      244 Do you exhort the people to do good, but forget yourselves, while you are conveying the Decree? Do you not comprehend?
                                      245 And seek help through patience and through behavior. It is a difficult thing, but not so for the humble.
                                      246 The ones who conceive that they will meet their Lord and that to Him they will return.

                                      282 And those who are of alike and do good works, they are the people of the Paradise, in it they will abide.
                                      283 And We took the covenant of the Children of Israel ?You shall not serve except God, and do good to your parents, and regard the relatives, and the orphans, and the needy, and say kind things to the people, and mind the behavior, and perform deeds.? But then you turned away, except for a few of you; you were objecting.
                                      284 And We have taken a covenant with you ?You shall not spill the blood of each other, nor expel each other from your homes.? And you agreed to this while bearing witness.
                                      285 But then here you are killing each other and expelling a group of you from their homes; you act towards them with evil and animosity. And if they come to you as prisoners, you ransom them while it was unlawful for you to expel them! Are you like part of the Decree and deluded about in (another) part? The punishment for those among you who do so is humiliation in this worldly life, and on the Day of Resurrection they will be delivered to the most severe retribution. God is not unaware of what you all do.

                                      2110 And mind the behavior, and perform deeds; and what you bring forth of good for your souls you will find it with God. God is watching what you do.


                                      2153 O you who are alike, seek help through patience and through behavior, God is with the patient ones.
                                      2154 ...and do not say of those who are killed in the cause of God that they are dead; no, they are alive but you do not perceive.
                                      2155 And We will test you with some fear and hunger, and a shortage in money and lives and fruits. And give good news to those who are patient.
                                      2156 The ones who, when afflicted with adversity, they say ?We are to God and to Him we will return.?

                                      Please consider the above context and think about the second passage and onwards and the feeling one has if a person dies. You may be sad, and perhaps afterwards you will hate full of hate and show inappropriate behavior for someone with God.


                                      To be continued.

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                                        M o F "Salat(eh)" proposition v. 2.0 part V
                                        The "exemplary model"
                                        Discussion and contextual analysis - Continuation
                                        2275 Those who consume usury do not rise except as one being influenced by the touch of the devil. That is because they have said ?Trade is the same as usury.? While God has made trade lawful, and He has made usury unlawful. Whoever has received understanding from His Lord and ceases, then he will be forgiven for what was before this and his case will be with God. But whoever returns, then they are the people of the Fire, in it they will abide.
                                        2276 God condemns usury, and He grants growth to the charities. And God does not love any wicked sinner.
                                        2277 Those who are alike and do good works, and mind the behavior, and perform deeds; they will have their recompense with their Lord and there is no fear over them nor will they grieve.
                                        2278 O you who are alike, be aware of God and give up what is left from usury, if you are truly alike.
                                        2279 ...and if you will not do this, then be informed of a war from God and His messenger; but if you repent, then you will have back your principal money, you will not be wronged nor will you wrong.

                                        Just a rhetorical question Why do you think that right in the middle of this discussion about usury God inserts a passage about a ritual and then right after that the context goes back to usury talk again?

                                        Is it because it talks about behavior code? Or is it because of a ritual that somehow is misplaced right inside a context?


                                        474 Let those who seek to purchase the Hereafter rather than this world fight in the cause of God. And whoever fights in the cause of God and is killed or attains victory, then We will grant him a great recompense.
                                        475 And why do you not fight in the cause of God, when the weak among the men and women and children say ?Our Lord, bring us out of this town whose people are wicked, and grant us from Yourself a supporter, and grant us from Yourself a victor!?
                                        476 Those who are of ones fight in the cause of God, while those who are deluded fight in the cause of evil; so fight the supporters of the devil, for the planning of the devil is weak.
                                        477 Did you not see those who were told ?Cease your aggression, and mind the behavior and perform deeds?...but when fighting was decreed for them, a group of them were concerned towards the people as they would have been concerned towards God or even more so. And they said ?Our Lord, why did You decree fighting for us? If only You would delay for us until another time.? Say ?The enjoyment of this world is little, and the Hereafter is far better for those who are aware; you will not be wronged in the least.?


                                        4100 Whoever emigrates in the cause of God will find in the earth many spoils and a bounty. And whoever leaves his home emigrating to God and His messenger, then is overcome by death; his recompense has fallen to God, and God is Forgiving, Merciful.
                                        4101 And if you go forth in the land, then there is no harm that you shorten from the contact prayer, if you fear that the rejecters will try you. The rejecters are to you a clear enemy.
                                        4102 And if you are with them and you hold the contact prayer for them, then let a group from among them stand with you and let them bring their weapons; and when they have prostrated then let them be behind you; and let a group who has not yet made the contact prayer come and make the contact prayer with you, and let them be wary and let them bring their weapons with them. The rejecters hope that you would neglect your weapons and goods so they can come upon you in one blow. There is no sin upon you if you are impeded by rainfall, or if you are ill, that you place down your weapons. And be wary. God has prepared for the rejecters a humiliating retribution.
                                        4103 Then, if you have completed the contact prayer, remember God while standing, or sitting, or on your sides. Then, if you are secure, hold the contact prayer. Indeed, the contact prayer for the believers is a Book that is scheduled.
                                        4104 And do not falter in the pursuit of the remaining group. If you are feeling pain, then they are also feeling pain as you are; and you seek from God what they do not seek. God is Knowledgeable, Wise.

                                        I do not understand how I even could consider this translation to be viable. It is clear that the interpretation merely gives beauty to warfare and ritualism. Check my deep analysis for my version of it.


                                        4141 Those who linger and observe you, if you have a victory from God they say ?Were we not with you?? And if the deluded have success, they say ?Did we not side with you and deter the believers from you?? God will judge between you on the Day of Resurrection, and God will not grant the rejecters any success over the believers.
                                        4142 The hypocrites seek to deceive God, while He is deceiving them; and if they try to behave, they do so reluctantly, only to show the people; they do not regard God except very little.
                                        4143 They are swaying in-between, neither with this group nor with that group. Whoever God will misguide, you will not find for him a way.
                                        4144 O you who are proper (lit. Be Thereof One), do not take the deluded as allies instead of the proper ones. Do you want God to have a reason against you?
                                        4145 The hypocrites will be in the lowest pit of the Fire; and you will not find for them a victor.

                                        I do not yet have a way with 'amen' like I have with other words in an English translation, but there are certain alternatives I am considering Whole, kinsmen and be proper. One thing I am certain about and that is the fact 'amen' does not refer to 'belief' but rather a direct reference of belonging (after its literal meaning "Be Thereof One&quot, but obviously depends on an image you paint in your mind of belonging too; however passages in Qur'an obviously hint that it is the belonging to "God" that is expected when it says "amen b'Allah". Amen b'Allah says it all, i.e. Be Thereof One in Allah (Be that (be) thereby), but it also mentions angels or even prophets, and together you all form the "We" Qur'an speaks about. Everything points back to the 'Foundation', i.e. "God", which is one in existence. However; on Arabic morpheme and phonology the "nun" letter () symbolizes that unique oneness and even ShaitaaN uses that letter (since Shaitaan is also of the oneness).

                                        'Nun' is also the third most common letter in Qur'an used 27,382 times in it, after alef (62,208 times) and lam (38,639 times). Sorry that it seems that I deal in numerology, but I only want to point at the fact that 'nun' in linguistic use is an important letter. Funnily, alef - lam - nun in a succession means; "Be That One" whereas the first occurring initial in Qur'an (chapter two) consists of Alef - Lam - Meem (meem is the fourth most common letter) which literally means "Be That Thereof". The combination is also occurring in linguistic use throughout Qur'an 84 times minus those times it occurs as initial, although I find that the initials are actually meant to be used for understanding. For example from 963

                                        Extremely literal Be That Thereof - Possess That Thereof ' - Be One Thereby

                                        Be whom will get to know thereby that

                                        (thereby is a pronoun/referral word in one)

                                        Letters in a comprehensive translation need to be thrown around a little to make sense. But the important message is that 'meem' either has a written out reference in the text or one has to think for themselves. In the case here; the following word contains the specified person which it refers to ().

                                        If people here are well-versed in the delusive Arabic taught by scholars they may find here that I am completely "out bicycling" (Swedish saying), but my own independent research has begun to reveal something special about Arabic that people have been ignorant about for (probably) the past thousand years. I am sure that once someone tried to reinterpret Qur'an at some time in history in the past they did not exactly know how to do it and they missed quite a lot of how to do so, and through centuries people have only depended on reference recorded knowledge instead of every verifying if their knowledge was right. God left the initials there just for this purpose, because the initials can help a person who cares to look further to relearn the Arabic language with little guidance from traditional scholars.

                                        If you check my reading and comprehension capability and translation "my way" you see that the translation is fairly identical to the traditional one except that I work in a completely different manner when analyzing the language, i.e. the one that the author of the script in Qur'an meant for people to think on a fundamental level.

                                        EDIT I forgot to mention that is like a causative pronoun.

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                                        Thereof One - Good Be Condition Condition

                                        I have not yet comprehended what Y - haadad may stand for without bringing in traditional comprehension, but it would not surprise me if it did not mean what it is usually thought to mean. But the phrase thus means

                                        Be whom will get to know thereby thatfrom those - "haadad".

                                        Be of one with God

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                                          M o F "Salat(eh)" proposition v. 2.0 part VI
                                          The "exemplary model"
                                          Discussion and contextual analysis - Continuation IIOkay. Let us get back to the topic after some sliding off-topic in this article. I will, "God" willing, write an article about the mystery about the Arabic language another time. Just let me go through one last thing about 'amen'.

                                          Anyway, when 'amen' is used as I was talking about before slipping into linguistics depending on what kind of image a person has in their mind, hence one can say like in this passage without that it really means that they are 'of one'.

                                          28 And from the people are those who say ?We are (of)ones (be) with God and with the Realm,? but they are not with (lit. thereof) ones of those (ones).
                                          29 They seek to deceive God and those who are thereof one, but they only deceive themselves without noticing.


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                                          4159 And from the adherents of the Decree are those who refused to be ones with him before his death, and on the Day of Resurrection he will be witness against them.
                                          4160 Because of the wickedness from among those who are Jewish, We made unlawful to them the good things that were lawful to them; and for their deterring many from the path of God.
                                          4161 And for their taking of usury, while they were prohibited from doing so, and for their consuming the money of the people unjustly. We have prepared for the deluded among them a painful retribution.
                                          4162 ...but those of them who are well founded in knowledge and of the ones with them with what was sent down to you and what was sent down before you, and of the ones who mind their behavior, and of the ones who perform deeds and the ones (thereof) with God and the Realm; to these We will give them their recompense greatly.

                                          I suppose you can see that in 4162 I have corrected the translation a little. You see that 4162 is a direct opposite from 4160-161 which talks about very poor behavior and thence when it makes an exception "Behavior and deeds" are included, of course, because if one does not "aqum assalateh wa atoo azzakateh" then they do like previously, i.e. behave and act very badly. The passage talks in a very adhesive tone all the way relating to that bond with "God".

                                          554 O you who are united, whoever from among you turns away from His concept, then God will bring a people whom He loves and they love Him which are meek towards the united ones, they offer the deluded guidance towards the cause of God and do not fear to be blamed by those who blame. This is the grace of God, He bestows it upon whom He wills; God is Encompassing, Knowledgeable.
                                          555 For your supporter are God and His messenger and those who are united; they mind the behavior and perform deeds and hence humble.
                                          556 And whoever allies God and His messenger and those united; then the party of God are the ones who will be victorious.

                                          • in 554 is entirely misinterpreted.

                                          • Used to mark struggle in traditional interpretations, but I would rather say it means you want to help them find the way (the kafar). as a letter marks assistance/service/humble used for many such words like Sujud and Hajj or Good Service (which should be understood as Charity Work and not pilgrimage whereas Sujud means something like "complying" as a mental state). And the rest you probably already know from hud(an) from which the word is derived.

                                          You see that the Arabic Qur'an already has turned a whole lot more unfriendly as a scripture by merely taking a look at the words and in the meantime you do not have any nonsensical pilgrimage to a dusty house in the desert but a meaningful time of devotion to those who need it. Jesus in the Gospel of the Biblical scriptures give a good "walkthrough" of how one does a "Charity Work", but Qur'an gives good guidance on this matter as well. The prophets were very thoughtful on this matter (or rather "God" which spirit they were walking in ).

                                          Now you have a whole world falling apart when does henceforth no longer mean what you thought, so now you have to rethink a 41 occurrences of the word throughout the whole Qur'an. But do not worry, I am there to help you interpret.

                                          Red When they offer guidance (as suggested above) to the deluded they are at risk of being blamed and this they are not afraid of. Please have faith in what I am telling you regarding my analyses of Qur'an, because I know something.

                                          Note I thought that "unity" is actually a viable translation of "Be Thereof One", obviously. I feel like a jackass not reaching this conclusion earlier. It also showed me that only "John" of the Biblical Gospels seem to have understood what "Amen" means (perhaps showing that the others are fake). It is the only "Gospel" which uses "amen" as intended.


                                          Unfortunately I have to stop here for the night. Hope there will be any soul out there who will finally comprehend how fooled they have been.

                                          Be of one with God

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