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    GODsubmitter
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    Thank you Pazuzu

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      Man_of_Faith
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      Peace Pazuzu,

      Thanks for the books. I have not yet begun to read them, but I will soon.

      I love philosophical works and I am sure it will be a pleasant reading.

      God bless you

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        noshirk
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        Salaam Brother Pazuzu

        Thank you for the book.
        As usual, it is a very interesting book.
        However, concerning me, you are convincing a convinced one.

        it s a little amazing to see a muslim working so hard on torah and book of Yeshua.
        Like for the KN, even with the human "alterings", bible is offering many indices to truth seekers.

        Of course, i am not agree on some points.
        For example, nassara are not christians for me but persians zoroasters. I really don't believe that some "yemenites" followed the "palestinian" christ and i am really astonished that zoroaster creed had no success at all in yemenite area while persians were often in arabia.

        i am interested on the expression Yahood.
        according to your sayings, Yahood is refferein to Hud.
        is it the name of prophet, a town or to word had'y (the offering of god=his words) ?
        is yahood means who were offered the "gift" of god for guideness (other meaning of hada).

        There is of course another great question
        where is the crossed sea by Moses and Bani israel ?
        Where was the land in which bani israel were "punished" for forty sanaton ?

        (please pay attention to remark of Brother ragging bull in another thread about word sanaton it could mean a month with huges consequences no more a noah of 950 years old, only 25 years for ahl el kahf and so on).

        According to french wikipedia, acoording to beta israel oral tradition, origin of beta israel is one of these
        1- descent of menelik
        2- descent of dan tribe esacping from assyrians (772 bc)
        3-descent of some bani israel who refused to follow moses during the "exodus" from "egypt"
        4-people converted by Moses during a trip he did there (source is unkown great monk in 19 century)
        5-escaped jew from jerusalam (587 BC from babylmonians).

        as you know, i like the fourth one.

        Peace

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          unknownuser
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          Peace noshirk

          Like for the KN, even with the human "alterings", bible is offering many indices to truth seekers.

          Yes, that's true. If you read in between the lines of the New Testament, you will find that underneath the stories is an encoded, symbolic message describing the struggle between the SUN of GOD (light, knowledge, truth), and the DARKNESS of NIGHT, or SATURN (the ignorance that the rulers and religious elite want people to stagnate in, so that the people will not realize their true potential and becme a threat to the established order). This has been the plight of humanity all along. The struggle for freedom from slavery to the diabolical triangle of Pharaoh - Haman - Qaroon (politicians - religious elite - financial elite).

          I really don't believe that some "yemenites" followed the "palestinian" christ and i am really astonished that zoroaster creed had no success at all in yemenite area while persians were often in arabia.

          How are you so sure it hasn't succeeded ? The way I see it, Islam is INFESTED with Judeo-Persian concepts. Just look at the names of those who wrote the Seera (biography of the prophet) and Tafseer (commentaries of the Quran). Don't you notice the trend? You find names like Bukhary, Tirmithi, Kisa'i, Naysaburi, Tabari (from Tabaristan), Shirazi, Asfahani, etc.... Where did they all come from?

          i am interested on the expression Yahood.
          according to your sayings, Yahood is refferein to Hud.
          is it the name of prophet, a town or to word had'y (the offering of god=his words) ?
          is yahood means who were offered the "gift" of god for guideness (other meaning of hada).

          Yes, but the name of Hud itself can also be from had'y...or no?

          Fact is, you find many examples of the prefix Ya- in the South Arabian culture

          YAghuth
          YA'uq
          YA'juj
          YAhood
          YAboos

          It's a linguistic tradition they have.

          where is the crossed sea by Moses and Bani israel ?

          What they crossed wasn't a "SEA" at all, but a "YAMM", which means a great flowing stream (check the meaning in Aramaic, Syriac as well as Arabic lexicons). It was an internal basin of water. As to exactly which one it is, that's not important, or the Qur'an would have named it. It's not relevant. As long as we know the general geography, that's all we need.

          Where was the land in which bani israel were "punished" for forty sanaton ?

          It was within the Blessed Land. Allah directed them to settle in a certain fortified town, but they were too afraid, as they thought its inhabitants were "jabbareen" (too strong). The argument against hem was that if they were truly so strong and mighty, they wouln't need to hide behind walls. But the ISraelites were too weak in resolve, and would not enter and settle there, so they were punished to roam the surrounding lands as nomads (their settlement was delayed for a period).

          (please pay attention to remark of Brother ragging bull in another thread about word sanaton it could mean a month with huges consequences no more a noah of 950 years old, only 25 years for ahl el kahf and so on).

          Yes, I agree that "sanat" does not necessarily mean "year" (as in 365 days).

          According to french wikipedia, acoording to beta israel oral tradition, origin of beta israel is one of these
          1- descent of menelik
          2- descent of dan tribe esacping from assyrians (772 bc)
          3-descent of some bani israel who refused to follow moses during the "exodus" from "egypt"
          4-people converted by Moses during a trip he did there (source is unkown great monk in 19 century)
          5-escaped jew from jerusalam (587 BC from babylmonians).

          as you know, i like the fourth one.

          How about a 6th choice Certain groups of SHEBANS crossed the Bab-al-Mandab strait and settled in Ethiopia. This is made evident by the many Sheban ruins they have uncovered in Ethiopia, as well as the presence of Kuthis (the so-called "KUSHITES" by those who cannot vocalize the 'th' sound) on both sides of the strait. So it wasn't necessarily Moses in person.

          If you read the books of Seerah, and how Islam spread in the age of Umar, you find something very strange The armies who conquered were composed of 80% Yemenis, and the remaining 20% were mostly Ethiopian. I could never stop wondering about these statistics. Why is there a story/legend that Muhammad fled to Ethiopia at one point? If he wanted to seek help from a benevolant Christian ruler, why not flee to Egypt? WHY ETHIOPIA in particular? Do you see the parallels in the stories? Menelik fled to Ethiopia - Muhammad fled to Ethiopia.

          The more you ponder this question, the more you begin to smell something fishy in Islamic history, and the sneaking suspicion that Muhammad is not who we think he was (in BOTH time AND place) becomes stronger.


          I love philosophical works and I am sure it will be a pleasant reading.

          Dear Man of faith

          I'm afraid there isn't much philosophy in those books. There is only a great deal of GEOGRAPHY, and a bit of history and archeology. If you aren't bored to death with place names, you won't mind.


          @Lena.

          I wish I could help you, but I'm not much of a computer wiz, either. But my advice to you is to NOT PRINT them. I am sending links to people who prefer to read them without downloading them, if that suits you.

          In fact, I advise everyone not to print them at this point, because I might be making changes later on, as my knowledge of this subject evolves.

          Thanks and regards to everyone.

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            Bender
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            What they crossed wasn't a "SEA" at all, but a "YAMM", which means a great flowing stream (check the meaning in Aramaic, Syriac as well as Arabic lexicons). It was an internal basin of water. As to exactly which one it is, that's not important, or the Qur'an would have named it. It's not relevant. As long as we know the general geography, that's all we need.

            Salaamun alayka,

            Musa and his people => bahr
            Firaun and his people => yam

            still not sure what yam means.

            Salaam,
            Bender

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              Man_of_Faith
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              Peace brother Pazuzu,

              I am sure I will like your books even without any philosophical elements. Thanks again.

              God bless you

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                noshirk
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                It was within the Blessed Land. Allah directed them to settle in a certain fortified town, but they were too afraid, as they thought its inhabitants were "jabbareen" (too strong). The argument against hem was that if they were truly so strong and mighty, they wouln't need to hide behind walls. But the ISraelites were too weak in resolve, and would not enter and settle there, so they were punished to roam the surrounding lands as nomads (their settlement was delayed for a period).

                Salaam Brother
                Numbers 12-1 Miriam and Aaron began to talk against Moses because of his Cushite wife, for he had married a Cushite.

                strange No ? it seems that there was cushistes women in the "certain fortified town".

                but it is not as so strange than this question
                where are the persian superpower of the era and their creed in quran ?

                concerning yamm/bahr
                it seems that bahar was separated in two (2-50), was crossed by bani israel (7-138;10-90,20-77)
                but it seems that it was in the yamm that pharaon and soldiers were drowned (7-136;20-78;20-97;28-40;51-40)
                yamm is also the "type of water" where mother of moses had thrown the basket of Baby moses (20-39;28-7). It is also the kind of water where what remains of the burried gold calf was thrown (20-97)

                yamm could be some wetlands like this (12.704651,43.487899 to paste on google maps) or this 12.673836,43.448326. it is near from the land of cushiste women and strange things can happen with water in such a tectonic place (http//www.see.leeds.ac.uk/structure/leb/tectonics/regional/regional.htm).

                many volcanoes around also http//vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/Africa/Maps/map_ethiopia_volcanoes.html

                Peace

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                  WHY ETHIOPIA in particular?

                  Pazuzu,

                  Is it because the claim made in Wonderful Ethiopians of the Ancient Cushite Empire, chapter IX, that Arabia was one of the earliest colonies of the ancient Cushite Empire. Is there something we are all overlooking when it comes to history?

                  Arabia was one of the earliest colonies of the ancient Cushite Empire of Ethiopians. Baldwin claims that it was the original land of Cush. He says, "In the oldest recorded traditions, Arabia is the land of Cush, the celebrated Ethiopia of very remote times." He continues, "In ages older than Egypt or Chaldea, Arabia was the seat of an enlightened and enterprising civilization that went far into neighboring countries. At that time Arabia was the exalted and wonderful Ethiopia of olden tradition, the center and life of what in western Asia was known as the civilized world. Traditions of the ancient world rightly interpreted can have no other meaning. In the early traditions and records of Greece, Arabia was described as Ethiopia." Arabia was only separated from old Ethiopia by the Red Sea. We would decide that the "Old Race" of the Upper Nile early sent colonies across the sea, which built up the cities and communities along the opposite Arabian coast. This happening before the founding of Memphis or the colonizing of Chaldea.

                  The Scriptures unite Arabia with the most intimate dealings of God with men. Here says the Cyclopedia of Biblical Literature, were transacted

                  p. 127

                  the marvelous panorama of the life of the Patriarch Job, who was described as one of the greatest men of the east. To this land Moses escaped after killing the Egyptian. Here he lived (put to school as it were) among the Midianites, descendants of Cush. Here he married a daughter of Ethiopia, here he saw the burning bush and here he talked with God. Here Elijah was fed by the ravens. In Arabia was the scene of all the marvelous displays of divine power and mercy that followed the deliverance of Israel from Egypt and accompanied their journeyings into the Promised Land, and here Jehovah manifested himself in visible glory to his people. Here today in the desert of Sin, manna still forms a tiny cereal upon the rocks. It was out of this region that God selected the race through which in two religions, one supreme God should be revealed to the world, the Hebrews and Mohammedans spring from the same race.

                  These primitive Semites were a north Arabian race. Southern Arabia was occupied by the older and more civilized Ethiopian race. Gibbon speaks of Sabaeans in north Arabia, if they were it was families that had passed northward after the Flood of Arem, which dispersed the families of old Yemen over northern Arabia. These people were advanced in civilization. The fact that the father-in-law of Moses could show him defects in his administration of government, proves that he was in possession of an older and more seasoned form of law. The Scriptures tell us that Moses harkened to the voice of his father-in-law

                  http//www.sacred-texts.com/afr/we/we12.htm

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                    noble
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                    Hi and Peace pazuzu,
                    I emailed you for the links...
                    thanks in advance
                    Nabil

                    I don't have time to construct / run a blog or website at this time.

                    However, I am trying a new method, which finally seems to be working. I have uploaded the books on a shared DropBox, and I'm simply sending the links to the books by e-mail.

                    Regards...

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                      Maha
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                      Salam brother Pazuzu.

                      I have emailed you to get the copy of the book, and I am looking forward to read it. I really appreciate your affords.

                      However, you said that you don't have time for a blog. But you could eventually just create a blog and copy paste elements from your book on it in no time, in order to make it even more known and available.

                      May God bless you and reward you for your work.

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                        Dear Ephraim..

                        Thank you for bringing that reference to my attention. I had no idea of its existence, and I will definitely look into it some more in the future.

                        There is one problem however with the term "Semitic". I do not believe this term denotes any particular people. It is a racist term that was invented by an Austrian Zionist during the 18th Century. It simply means "descendant of Sam, son of Noah". So why should the descendants of Sam be special, while those who descended from Noah's other sons (Ham, Japeth, Kanaan) be considered inferior? This is all done for religious and political propaganda (to claim racial superiority).

                        Is there something we are all overlooking when it comes to history?

                        Yes...our entire history was written by a bunch of soulless, murdering, plundering, inhuman criminals, who worship Satan openly. Their occult practices and rituals have been exposed, and humankind is slowly awakening to who the masters of this world really are. In fact, I doubt very much that these "elite" even belong to the human race.

                        The ancient Ethiopians understood very well where the "Land of God" was. (The place where the divine presence first made itself known and manifested to human beings).

                        The Egyptians knew it as well, and they called the land PWN-PWNT, and designated it as "Land of our Ancestors". The Hieroglyphs clearly depict the Egyptian armies sailing the Red Sea in order to reach Pwnt. The Egyptians also colonized Arabia (not only the Ethiopians). The "Misr" mentioned in the Quran was probably an Egyptian colony.

                        I have been mocked and ridiculed often for claiming this (even by Arabs), but I really don't care. I have a feeling that this will be proven irrefutably once the evil puppet regimes of Arabia are deposed of, and the Peninsula is finally open to archeologists as it should be. (Which will probably not be during my lifetime).

                        I believe that humankind emerged from South Arabia then crossed into Africa (Ethiopia - Somal). Not the other way around.

                        However, you said that you don't have time for a blog. But you could eventually just create a blog and copy paste elements from your book on it in no time, in order to make it even more known and available.

                        Maybe I'll do that after I've made a final revision of the books.

                        Thanks to everyone for the support.

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