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RAHMAN TRANSLATED AS ALMIGHTY

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    rsyed1
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    Salam Alaikum,

    On what basis is Ar-Rahman translated as Almighty and not the classical gracious or beneficent ?

    Thanks

    Riaz

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      Jafar
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      Salam Alaikum,

      On what basis is Ar-Rahman translated as Almighty and not the classical gracious or beneficent ?

      Thanks

      Riaz

      Ar-Rahman from the root word of "RAHM" literally means "Mother's Womb".
      In less-literal context it can also means "Caring, Nurturing, Protecting Love", in similar manner as Mother's Womb to the baby (or babies) within.

      Salam / Peace

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        rsyed1
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        I know about the root word womb.
        But it did not answer my question why the monotheist translation uses the word Almighty for Rahman ???

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          savage_carrot
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          http//www.free-minds.org/al-rahman-al-raheem-most-important-pair
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16710.msg181140#msg181140

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            rsyed1
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            savage_carrot, thanks for the links. I am in the process of absorbing them.

            so if rahman is translated almighty. how about the word "azeez" - which was used for almighty in previous translations.
            Also, since arabic words are based on root words in this case it is RHM - pertaining to care, mercy, - I don't see 'mighty' as in 'power' in that root word.

            http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=rHm#(113)

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              savage_carrot
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              I wasn't a part of the translation group. My response was to answer partially why it was probably translated as Almighty, i.e. the contrast argument. You may want to send Layth a PM/email to inquire further regarding what the process was in their case specifically, and why it was chosen instead of other alternatives.

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                rsyed1
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                savage_carrot

                Actually the link you posted - http//www.free-minds.org/al-rahman-al-raheem-most-important-pair

                gives a reasonable explanation as the basis.

                As that article states the references of the word rahman in (19) 85-96 are pretty convincing.

                Thanks for your help.

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                  hicham9
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                  I also understand "" (wich is a Syriac word) as "Almighty"!
                  Can it be that the expression " " is simply an idiom meaning 'The Most Merciful'?

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                    Well, since Azeez is being translated as Noble.
                    and Gracious is not suitable for Rahman.
                    RAHMAN can be Almighty or Omnipotent or All powerful.

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                      Bender
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                      Well, since Azeez is being translated as Noble.
                      and Gracious is not suitable for Rahman.
                      RAHMAN can be Almighty or Omnipotent or All powerful.

                      Salaamun,

                      Al-3Aziz does not mean The Almighty or The Noble as per my current knowledge.
                      At the moment I am a little bit tired (=lazy) to write how I see it -[
                      But inshaAllah if you study chapter 12 about Yusuf, you will inshaAllah learn the meaning of both Al-3Aziz and AlMalik with His help.

                      Salaam,
                      Bender

                      ps. welcome to the forum handshake

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                        peace,

                        Can it be that the expression " " is simply an idiom meaning 'The Most Merciful'?

                        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596520.msg47807#msg47807

                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                          hicham9
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                          (bism)
                          Syriac equivalent (bishm)
                          Meaning in the name (of)

                          (Allh)
                          Syriac equivalent (Alaha/Allaha)
                          Meaning God

                          (al-rahmn)
                          Syriac equivalent (ramn&#702
                          Meaning The Loving, or The Merciful (From the root related to "loving&quot

                          (al-raheem)
                          Syriac equivalent (warHiyme)
                          Meaning The Beloved (as in the Peshitt?, Philippians 41 - &#1808


                          Peace

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                            warner
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                            Peace

                            In Hebrew and Aramaic both, Raham seem to indicate compassion.

                            Also we can see from the following how the word and the cognates are used many times in the bible.

                            rachmaniy

                            from 'racham' ; compassionate--pitiful.

                            racham

                            compassion
                            Deu 1317, Deu 303, 1 Ki 850, 2 Ki 1323, Isa 4915, Jer 1215, Lam 332, Micah 719

                            love
                            Psa 181

                            merciful
                            Psa 1165

                            mercy
                            Exo 3319, Exo 3319, Psa 10213, Prov 2813, Isa 917, Isa 141, Isa 2711, Isa 3018, Isa 4910, Isa 4913, Isa 548, Isa 5410, Isa 557, Isa 6010, Jer 623, Jer 1314, Jer 217, Jer 3018, Jer 3120, Jer 3326, Jer 4212, Jer 5042, Eze 3925, Hos 16, Hos 17, Hos 24, Hos 223, Hos 143, Hab 32, Zech 112, Zech 106

                            pitieth
                            Psa 10313, Psa 10313

                            pity
                            Isa 1318

                            mercy
                            Hos 223

                            racham

                            compassion
                            1 Ki 850, 2 Chr 309

                            compassions
                            Lam 322, Zech 79

                            love
                            Dan 19

                            mercies
                            2 Sam 2414, 1 Chr 2113, Neh 919, Neh 927, Neh 928, Psa 256, Psa 4011, Psa 511, Psa 6916, Psa 779, Psa 798, Psa 1034, Psa 11977, Psa 119156, Psa 1459, Prov 1210, Isa 547, Isa 637, Isa 6315, Jer 165, Jer 4212, Dan 99, Dan 918, Hos 219, Zech 116

                            mercies'
                            Neh 931

                            mercy
                            Gen 4314, Deu 1317, Neh 111, Isa 476

                            pitied
                            Psa 10646

                            pity
                            Amos 111

                            womb
                            Gen 4925, Prov 3016, Isa 463, Eze 2026

                            http//www.sacrednamebible.com/kjvstrongs/CONHEB735.htm#S7360

                            Also the following link.

                            http//www.christianleadershipcenter.org/otws9.htm

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