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What is Islam?

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    muslims
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    I mean, death sentece is permisable if the muslims do apostasy,

    They are apostasy simply because they believe Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is the Imam Mahdi ? rotfl

    Although the central values of Islam (prayer, charity, fasting, etc.) and the six articles of belief of Ahmadis are identical to those of mainstream Sunni Muslims and central to Ahmadi belief, distinct Ahmadiyya beliefs include the following

    How about the Quranist, RK's followers and hadith rejectors in this forum ?

    Do they deserve to be killed like animals for apostasy ? (in fact, worst than animals)

    Deserve to be killed like the following Ahmadiyyah ?
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=es-p5OHTSxk

    Let see who are the hypocrite. . . laugh

    Ahmadiya deserved it, because their mockery toward God's teaching.
    The purpose of punishment is to prevent Ahmadiya, before they go further for corrupting GOD's teaching.
    This is the hadith said.

    Murtad and raddad according to hadith, the punishment is death sentence.

    What they did ?
    Christian and all religions are also mocking God's teaching . .
    Therefore, did they killed people ?

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      David_Saidi
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      You are just being a sectarian, lazy and jealous because of their success . .
      and you don't believe the Quran. . that success is for the Believers . .

      So that kind of Chinese is the believer??

      do not be of those who associate others with Allah
      of those who have divided their way of life and become sects
      every faction rejoicing in what it has
      3031

      So you started to hijack Quranic verses
      Quran is your Scritupre and the hadith is your own brain??

      They are apostasy simply because they believe Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is the Imam Mahdi ? rotfl

      It's like Mohammed cut the hand of a thief, just because he stole one penny rotfl -X

      end result, killed, raped and burned people alive

      irrelevant issue and please re-read my post about it!!

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        muslims
        wrote on last edited by
        #608

        So you started to hijack Quranic verses

        as always, blank accusations and blank denials of the Quran , BS . .

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          muslims
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          It's like Mohammed cut the hand of a thief, just because he stole one penny rotfl -X

          See? another BS, and no proper methodology from the Islamic Jurisprudence . . . as always.

          . . .

          and why are you ignoring this question ?

          How about the Quranist, RK's followers and hadith rejectors in this forum ?

          Do they deserve to be killed like animals for apostasy ? (in fact, worst than animals)

          Deserve to be killed like the following Ahmadiyyah ?
          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=es-p5OHTSxk

          Ahmadiya deserved it, because their mockery toward God's teaching.
          The purpose of punishment is to prevent Ahmadiya, before they go further for corrupting GOD's teaching.
          This is the hadith said.

          Murtad and raddad according to hadith, the punishment is death sentence.

          hypocrite ?

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            David_Saidi
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            as always, blank accusations and blank denials of the Quran , BS . .

            Because this is the fact and clear evidences ;D
            You also avoid many parameters

            See? another BS, and no proper methodology from the Islamic Jurisprudence . . . as always.

            It's you who don't understand what MH Kamali wrote....
            In the fact MH Kamali is not a heretic and he just repeat what the previous ulema said in the easy format.

            and why are you ignoring this question ?

            I'm not ignoring instead I already answered it
            Hypocrite?? Please learn your hadith again and how reliable sahabat give punishment to that kind of people

            The step is like this

            • The muslims will give the ultimatum to Ahmadiya to repent
              And this already did by Moslem NGOs by ask Ahmadiya follower to stop their activities and go back to straight path
              This ultimatum is called "Surat Keputusan Bersama" and one of point said "Ahmadiya will allowed to keep their activities as long as they don't label themself as Islam"

            But Ahmadiya refused instead they keep practice their teaching and even dare to started recruiting the new followers.

            If you follow hadith which is written not your brain, then you will now if their blood is halal.

            Salaam

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              muslims
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              I'm not ignoring instead I already answered it

              See ? It is so easy to prove that you are lying. . . rotfl

              So as your other statement is BS , and that's why you can never refer to which part that you did not agree.

              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg349667#msg349667

              because you are lying, so as lying to yourself. .
              from a Sunni, becoming a Mu'tazilite, the a Quranist, an Atheist, an Agonistic . . bla. . bla. . bla. and back to Sunni. . . what else after this? laugh

              . . .

              I'm not ignoring instead The step is like this

              and again. . you divert to another issue . . .

              I'm asking about the "Quranist, RK's followers and hadith rejectors in this forum"
              not about the Ahmadiyya. . .
              Do you know how to read ? . . or you have a blind heart ?

              Here is the question , again . . .

              How about the Quranist, RK's followers and hadith rejectors in this forum ?

              Do they deserve to be killed like animals for apostasy ? (in fact, worst than animals)

              Deserve to be killed like the following Ahmadiyyah ?
              http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=es-p5OHTSxk

              Ahmadiya deserved it, because their mockery toward God's teaching.
              The purpose of punishment is to prevent Ahmadiya, before they go further for corrupting GOD's teaching.
              This is the hadith said.

              Murtad and raddad according to hadith, the punishment is death sentence.

              and remember . . . the Saudi Arabia has already issued the fatwa in 1980s, so as other countries . . .

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                David_Saidi
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                See ? It is so easy to prove that you are lying. . . rotfl

                So as your other statement is BS , and that's why you can never refer to which part that you did not agree.

                BS....
                You just play dumb ;D, I even already posting the dalil both from QUran and hadith
                Search yourself in previous pages,

                I'm asking about the "Quranist, RK's followers and hadith rejectors in this forum", not about the Ahmadiyya. . .

                They're same with the Ahmadiya >D

                and remember . . . the Saudi Arabia have already issued the fatwa in 1980s. . .

                Saudi is a Wahabi and perhaps Saudi polis will slaughter the Ahmadiyas even withouth notice

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                  muslims
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #613

                  I'm asking about the "Quranist, RK's followers and hadith rejectors in this forum", not about the Ahmadiyya. . .
                  . . .

                  Here is the question , again . . .

                  Ahmadiya deserved it, because their mockery toward God's teaching.
                  The purpose of punishment is to prevent Ahmadiya, before they go further for corrupting GOD's teaching.
                  This is the hadith said.

                  Murtad and raddad according to hadith, the punishment is death sentence.

                  They're same with the Ahmadiya >D

                  So everyone here should be killed like the Ahmadiyya. . . in the manner, worst than animals.

                  http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=es-p5OHTSxk

                  How about Man of Faith, should he deserve to be killed like the Ahmadiyya ?

                  JavaLatte ? . . . and all your Indonesian friends in this forum ?

                  They deserved to be killed like the Ahmadiyya , right ?

                  You said "They're same with the Ahmadiya" . . .

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                    David_Saidi
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                    How about Man of Faith, should you kill him worst than animals ?

                    JavaLatte ?

                    He / She deserved to be killed like animals, right ?

                    If Man of Faith and Javalette agreeing for repent, then not.

                    In the grave/barzakh, the punishment people get is more scary from what you think as "worst than animal"
                    In the hell, people get burnet, mutilated and used for snake's feed.

                    Is this means God against the human right?? ;D
                    Is rajm/stoning also against human right?? ;D

                    Did you know this kind of execution was very common during ancient and medieval era
                    But since human now already get brainwashed by civilliation with liberal concept, then seeing this kinds of punishment will like a horror for the people especially you.

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                      savage_carrot
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                      This thread is now locked and appropriate action will be taken. Please read the forum rules and refrain from further inflammatory postings. Any personal/outstanding issues should be dealt with via PM.

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