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Boyfriend/a companion for a romantic sexual relationship make us unbeliever?

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      I vote )

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        diamantinehoneybunch
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        Salaam,

        Please don't be like Sectarians who only support sex-segregation and only know to say "no love before nikah? because either they are brainswashed or to justify forced/arranged-marriage.

        I don't think just having a boyfriend/girlfriend is wrong as long as no lewdness committed.

        Btw I don't really understand the topic title.

        Regards,
        Yuliana

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          Timur
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          Peace 357.

          "Boyfriend/a companion for a romantic sexual relationship"

          Can you please clarify what you mean by this?

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            Topic is

            is sex only allowed after a firm comittment in front of witnesses, according to the commands of holy scriptures?

            When people take girlfriends or boyfriends , or a private love affair, sex is part of it but without any form of comitmments to the goal of having a family.

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              Praying to a monkey and saying that monkey is your God makes you an unbeliever. Other sins don't make you an unbeliever.

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                Praying to a monkey and saying that monkey is your God makes you an unbeliever. Other sins don't make you an unbeliever.

                Sorry i can't get my head around this - How can one be a believer in something by go-ing in oposition to the teaching?

                Isn't the only time you go in oposition is when you can't or don't believe?

                peace

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                  diamantinehoneybunch
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                  Salaam,

                  Don't be confused believer with submitter.

                  Regards,
                  Yuliana

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                    Salaam,

                    Don't be confused believer with submitter.

                    Regards,
                    Yuliana

                    Thanks for your explanations, there are a lot of westrn people here who believe in this relationship so i will take with a pinch of salt , so as to say.

                    Taking your beliver definition further.

                    So a beliver only sins when on occasion they go against comandment right?

                    So if you agree they can also sin, and if one rapes an infant girl then to you they are still believers but just sinning, right?

                    peace

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                      If committing a sin in Islam makes one a unbeliever, then there are no Muslims.

                      God recognises our fallibility, and forgives us for it.

                      Rape of any kind is a totally different level to two consenting adults having a sexual relationship out of wedlock. I think anyone with common sense can recognise that much.

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                        Salaam,

                        Although there is little information about this kind of temporary romance relationships I get a feeling it is not appreciated to not aim for a long-term marriage when you start meeting a girl or boy. Or if not marriage then simply relationship. Marriage contracts in traditional sense are human inventions I think and your are bound by what you promise and not some papers.

                        God did not say that you should write down anything when you "marry", but I guess I it would still be wise.

                        No matter what people say I am sure that breaking up is discouraged by Quran and so I have interpreted it. But it is certainly not forbidden, however, it should not be done simply because of selfishness and that you are "tired" of the partner, unless the partner violates his/her responsibilities, and then still be done under careful consideration.

                        Nothing stops us from anything (except perhaps national laws), but we ought to know there is always a Watcher. And He may subsequently punish us.

                        Hope anything I wrote was of help or otherwise I apologize. Have a good day.

                        God bless you

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                          https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_God_Writes_Your_Love_Story

                          The book is divided into five sections and sixteen chapters. Each chapter is written from the perspective of one of the two authors; nine are by Eric, while Leslie wrote seven, as well as the introduction. The Ludys argue that one's love life should be both guided by and subordinate to one's relationship with God. Leslie writes that God offers new beginnings to formerly unchaste or sexually abused individuals.

                          Eric and Leslie Ludy met when he was 21 and she was 16. They pursued a friendship for several months before starting to court, and married in December 1994, the same month that Eric turned 24. In When God Writes Your Love Story, the Ludys advise single people not to be physically or emotionally intimate with others, but to wait for the life partner that God has planned for them; the Ludys suggest that one should marry this person rather than independently choosing a mate. Also focusing on premarital physical and emotional purity, the authors do not discuss the physical processes of sexual activity.

                          This man studied 20,000 of THE most successful people on the planet. Hear what he said about how they got there!
                          Think and Grow Rich Chapter 11. The Mystery of Sex Transmutation (The Tenth Step toward Riches)

                          Comes down to this. Bring a Pure Soul to your future partner. And your jannah will be waiting with open arms. Let go, Let God.

                          How to do this? Brahmacharya.
                          The Secret of Eternal Youth
                          The Importance of Brahmacharya! (by Sri Swami Sivananda)

                          Channel the energy upwards. Become a superhero. Become faster, stronger, harder, better, Abstain from all kinds of sensory pleasures. Your enemy, The God's enemy, they lie to you via the senses. You cannot win. The you that cannot win, that is a mere voice in your head. Explore the You that can win, this You is none but

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