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What is understood as ذٰلِكَ الْكِتٰبُ (Thalika alkitabu) in the verse 2:2 of Al-Quran

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    ansmeh1998
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    Salaam to all,

    Most of the popular scholars understood in the verse 22 of Al-Quran as - 'This is the Book'. Whereas Free-Minds has understood as 'That is the Book'. To me the term 'This' refers to Al-Quran itself. But what the term 'That' refers to in the understanding of Free-Minds.

    http//www.islamawakened.com/quran/2/2/default.htm

    At the same time, it is equally true that in Al-Quran, the term has been understood as 'This' almost unanimously by the scholars.

    What is the shuttle difference between the use of 'This' and 'That' for in the verse 22 of Al-Quran? Kindly clarify.

    Salaam
    Mehjabeen

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      Noon_waalqalami
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      What is the shuttle difference between the use of 'This' and 'That' for in the verse 22 of Al-Quran? Kindly clarify.

      Peace,

      It doesn't come out exactly as this or that in English nor any word; 480 occurrences, perhaps try "such" seems close enough...

      21 alif-lam-meem
      22 such the book not doubt in it guidance for the righteous

      1071 have seen thou the one denies in the judgement
      1072 so such the one repulses the orphan

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        Mazhar
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        http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.%20Tabweeb/0001.%20Pronouns%20and%20Prepositions/Demonstrative%20Pronouns/01.%20Zalika/1.gif It is a demonstrative pronoun and the subject of a nominal sentence. A speaker or an author uses a demonstrative pronoun to divert and focus the attention of the addressee towards the pointed object, person or concept, assigning that thing a peculiarity/individuality. Visual axis focused upon an object yields its perfect perception. Therefore, any thing which is in the reach of the vision and has since been perceived is no more distant irrespective of its distance from the addressee. It stands introduced to the addressee. This demonstrative pronoun is a pointer-introducer of http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.%20Tabweeb/0004.%20Kitab%20Kaaf%20Ta%20Ba/1.gif definite noun signifying a specific known book to the second person-the reader who has either picked it up or to whom it is presented.

        Grand Qur'aan is introduced as a peculiar Book. A book contains written material; information, data, physical facts, events and conduct of the past-earlier generations; knowledge. It contains injunctions, instructions; procedural code, prescription of lawful and unlawful matter or conduct; segregates or demarcates one thing from another, describes the relationship of things, and elaborates the cause and effect of events/rise and fall. Moreover, a book may serve as a Guide giving permanent values and the road map for those seeking the destination and who intend to avoid unrestrained conduct.

        The two words do not convey full information for the person who picks it up at his own and to whom it is presented for reading. The book is in the hands of the addressee or is in the process of handing over to him, therefore, it is manifest that the intent of Speaker/Author is not limited to tell him, "This is the Book" or "That is the Book", since he already knows it or is watching it on presentation. The intent is to draw his concentrated attention towards the peculiarity and distinction of its contents-miscellany which he has not yet read and is still distant from his information and perception. This makes him attentive and enthusiastic to hear or read its ascription/predication.

        Introduction of Qur'aan The only Infinitely Reliable Book

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          mmkhan
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          Salaam to all,

          Most of the popular scholars understood in the verse 22 of Al-Quran as - 'This is the Book'. Whereas Free-Minds has understood as 'That is the Book'. To me the term 'This' refers to Al-Quran itself. But what the term 'That' refers to in the understanding of Free-Minds.

          http//www.islamawakened.com/quran/2/2/default.htm

          At the same time, it is equally true that in Al-Quran, the term has been understood as 'This' almost unanimously by the scholars.

          What is the shuttle difference between the use of 'This' and 'That' for in the verse 22 of Al-Quran? Kindly clarify.

          Salaam
          Mehjabeen

          Salaam,

          Please take a look at this, it may be of some help, inshaAllah.

          May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
          mmKhan

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            http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.%20Tabweeb/0001.%20Pronouns%20and%20Prepositions/Demonstrative%20Pronouns/01.%20Zalika/1.gif It is a demonstrative pronoun and the subject of a nominal sentence. A speaker or an author uses a demonstrative pronoun to divert and focus the attention of the addressee towards the pointed object, person or concept, assigning that thing a peculiarity/individuality. Visual axis focused upon an object yields its perfect perception. Therefore, any thing which is in the reach of the vision and has since been perceived is no more distant irrespective of its distance from the addressee. It stands introduced to the addressee. This demonstrative pronoun is a pointer-introducer of http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.%20Tabweeb/0004.%20Kitab%20Kaaf%20Ta%20Ba/1.gif definite noun signifying a specific known book to the second person-the reader who has either picked it up or to whom it is presented.

            Grand Qur'aan is introduced as a peculiar Book. A book contains written material; information, data, physical facts, events and conduct of the past-earlier generations; knowledge. It contains injunctions, instructions; procedural code, prescription of lawful and unlawful matter or conduct; segregates or demarcates one thing from another, describes the relationship of things, and elaborates the cause and effect of events/rise and fall. Moreover, a book may serve as a Guide giving permanent values and the road map for those seeking the destination and who intend to avoid unrestrained conduct.

            The two words do not convey full information for the person who picks it up at his own and to whom it is presented for reading. The book is in the hands of the addressee or is in the process of handing over to him, therefore, it is manifest that the intent of Speaker/Author is not limited to tell him, "This is the Book" or "That is the Book", since he already knows it or is watching it on presentation. The intent is to draw his concentrated attention towards the peculiarity and distinction of its contents-miscellany which he has not yet read and is still distant from his information and perception. This makes him attentive and enthusiastic to hear or read its ascription/predication.

            Introduction of Qur'aan The only Infinitely Reliable Book

            Salaam,

            Am I the only one who did not understand a thing?

            Salaam,
            Bender

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              Bender
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              Salaam,

              Please take a look at this, it may be of some help, inshaAllah.

              May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
              mmKhan

              Salaamun alayka bro,

              I believe you have changed your view on point 4

              4- Was AlKitaab also given to Prophet Mohammed?

              Yes, direct aayat

              4136
              4136 O you who believe; believe in Allah and His messenger, and the Book which was sent down to His messenger, and the Book which was sent before. And whoever rejects Allah, and His angels, and His Books, and His messengers, and the Last Day; then he has strayed a far straying.

              Indirect

              33
              33 He sent down to you the Book with the truth, authenticating what is between his hands; and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel.

              And also 37, 4105, 4113, 548 and more...

              salaam,
              Bender

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                mmkhan
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                Salaamun alayka bro,

                I believe you have changed your view on point 4

                salaam,
                Bender

                Salaamun,

                Yes bro, yes thanks for pointing it, and that's why I said "it may be of SOME help"

                May Allah bless you pr
                mmKhan

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                  ansmeh1998
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                  Salaam MMKhan Sir,

                  Thanks a lot for the link. Ma shaa Allah, the way your good self delve into the ocean of Al-Quran to find out the illuminating peals, is simply awesome. May Allah(swt) keep on increasing your knowledge for the benefit of yours as well as others. But the term 'that' is still disturbing me. Any way, I put my trust in Allah(swt) for further explanation and clarity.

                  Salaam!
                  Mehjabeen

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