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    spiritual_seeker_86
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    Salaam friends,

    The thing I've been wondering about is how would one pray according to the Koran alone? Is it similar to some of the Jewish or Christian prayers I've prayed? Is there the necessity of prostration, recitation of suras, etc. as the Sunni and Shia do? Exactly what does the Koran teach about prayer?

    Thanks

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      There is just too much controversy about it, none can give you the right and correct answer.

      The best answer you will get is "Try to ask God to explain it to you..."

      I am also waiting for a clear-cut answer to that question for more then 2 years...

      Patience...

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        Salaam,

        I have understood that prayer is more about meditation and contact with God than ritualistic. But I am not excluding any physical movement since I know God sees everything. But no more rakah system for me, just two prostration sets and two readings of fixed prayers which are in my case chapter 1 of Quran and the Jesus prayer 'Our Father in Heaven' although I replace father with Lord in my version. I read Quran chapter in first set and the Biblical one in the other.

        God bless you

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          Pray however you want to pray! (And include prostrations because this was how all the prophets prayed)

          Hope that helps

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            Prayer means our submission or a fervent and reverent petition to God, communicating with Him directly, always keeping Him with us. Allah is with you when you do good deeds, when you observe patience during times of afflictions, and fearing God. If we do not abide by at least any two of His Qualities or Attributes mentioned below at any point of time and at all times during our life on this earth, Allah is not with us and our prayers or submissions become null and void. Paired Qualities or Attributes of Allah are dispersed at the end of most of the ayats throughout Quran Rahman and Rahim - Ample Giving, Merciful; All Powerful, Wise; Most Forgiving, Most Gracious; All Knowing, Most High; The Creator, the Most Honourable; The Life Giver, The Establisher. In short, it is easy to remember Allah's Names, for in all your needs is His Established Name.

            If you want to be self-sufficient, remember Him as the Ample Giving and believe in Him with Patience; if you want to be forgiven for the sins you had committed, remember Him as the Most Forgiving, the Most Merciful; if you want to be cured of your diseases, remember Him as the All-Knowing, The Life Giver, The Establisher, The Curer; if you fear your sustenance, remember as The Sustainer, The Protector; if you fear scarcity, remember Him as The Provider, The Abundant, The Helper. And very important thing is while remembering the Names of Allah and Allah alone, as long as you are careful not to commit shirk or associating partners with Him, Allah says He is ever with you. Keeping Allah ever with us is ever remembering Him and being ever prayerful. Allah loves those who are prayerful in their heart of hearts and not those who make a show of physical prayers.

            1074 So woe to those who pray
            1075 They are unmindful in their prayer
            1076 Those who make show

            Allah only sees your soul in your prayer; and not your physical form and position which is a mere show unto others. Your prayerfulness is witnessed by Allah and malayika; but your prayers are only a show to human beings which act brings no answer or grace from Allah but a curse from Him.

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              peace,

              Exactly what does the Koran teach about prayer?

              Lots. I recommend reading it.

              From http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

              Dal-Ayn-Waw = to seek, desire, ask, demand, call upon, invoke, ascribe, cry out, call out to, pray, supplicate, petition, require, need, summon, invite, assert, succour. (e.g. 'daAAa' in phonetic search engine).
              Adopted son (adiya, pl. of da'iy).

              Da'aa (prf. 3rd. p.m. sing.) He prayed, called.
              Du'aa (prf. 3rd. p.m. plu.) They ascribed.
              Da'utu (prf. 1st. p. sing.) I called.
              Li Yad'u (prt. 3rd. p.m. sing.) Let him call; he might call.
              Lam Yad'u (imp. 3rd. p.m.) Did not call us.
              Yad'u (imp. 3rd. p.m.) He calls.
              Yad'uuna (imp. 3rd. p.m. plu.) They call.
              Yad'uu (imp. 2nd. p.m. sing.) Thou call.
              Tad'uu (imp. 2nd. p.m. sing.) Thou call.
              Tad'uu/Tad'uuna (acc./ imp. 1st. p. plu.) You call.
              Nad'u/Nad'uu (imp. 1st. p. plu.) We call.
              Ud'u (prt. 2nd. p.m. sing.) Thou call.
              Ud'uu (prt. 2nd. p.m. plu.) Call you all.
              Du'iya (pp. 3rd. p.m. sing.) He was called.
              Du'uu (pip. 3rd. p.m. plu.) They were called.
              Du'iitum (pp. 2nd. p.m. plu.) You were called.
              Laa tad'u (prt. neg.) Do not call.
              Da'uutum (prf. 3rd. p.m. plu.) You called.
              Tud'auna (pip. 2nd. p.m. plu.) You are called.
              Tad'uu/Tad'uuna (imp. 3rd. p.m. plu. VIII.) They ask for.
              Tadda'uuna (imp. 2nd. p.m. plu. VIII.) You ask for.
              Tud'aa (pip. 2nd. p.m. plu. VIII.) You will be summoned.
              Yud'aa (pip. 3rd. p.m. sing. VIII.) He will be summoned.
              Yud'auna (pip. 3rd. p.m. plu. VIII.) They will be summoned.
              Daa'in/Daa'ii (act. pic. m. sing.) One who calls, summons.
              Du'aa'un (v.n.) Supplication; prayer; call.
              Du'aai (comb.) My prayer; calling.
              Ad'iyaa (n. plu.) Adopted son.
              Da'watun (v.n.) Call; claim; message; supplication; prayer.
              Da'waahum (comb.) Their cry.

              daAAa vb. (1)
              perf. act. 2186, 338, 7189, 7193, 824, 1012, 1022, 1422, 1852, 1991, 2513, 2762, 2864, 2965, 3025, 3033, 3132, 398, 3949, 4133, 4422, 5410, 715, 717, 718
              impf. act. 2221, 2221, 361, 3104, 3153, 4117, 640, 641, 641, 652, 656, 663, 671, 671, 6108, 737, 7193, 7194, 7197, 7198, 1012, 1025, 1066, 10106, 1162, 11101, 1233, 12108, 1314, 1336, 149, 1410, 1620, 1686, 1711, 1752, 1757, 1767, 1771, 17110, 1814, 1828, 1857, 1948, 1948, 2190, 2212, 2213, 2262, 2273, 23117, 2514, 2568, 2672, 26213, 2825, 2841, 2888, 2942, 3121, 3130, 3216, 356, 3513, 3514, 3518, 3540, 37125, 3851, 398, 3938, 4020, 4026, 4041, 4041, 4042, 4042, 4043, 4066, 4074, 415, 4148, 4213, 4386, 4455, 464, 465, 4735, 5228, 546, 578, 7017, 7218, 7219, 7220, 8411, 9617, 9618
              impv. 223, 261, 268, 269, 270, 260, 729, 755, 756, 7134, 7180, 7194, 7195, 1038, 1113, 16125, 1756, 17110, 17110, 2267, 2514, 2864, 2887, 335, 3422, 4014, 4049, 4050, 4060, 4065, 4215, 4349
              perf. pass. 2282, 2448, 2451, 3353, 4012
              impf. pass. 323, 4010, 4228, 4738, 4816, 617, 6842, 6843
              n.vb. 2171, 338, 1314, 1439, 1440, 1711, 194, 1948, 2145, 2463, 2463, 2577, 2780, 3052, 3514, 4050, 4149, 4151, 465, 716
              pcple. act. 2186, 20108, 3346, 4631, 4632, 546, 548

              adiya n.m. (pl. of da'iy) 334, 3337

              dawa n.f. 75, 1010, 1010, 2115

              dawah n.f. 2186, 1089, 1314, 1444, 3025, 4043

              idda'a vb. ( impf. act. 3657, 4131, 6727

              Lane's Lexicon, Volume 3, pages 49, 50, 51

              = Sad-Lam-Waw = prayer, supplication, petition, oration, eulogy, benediction, commendation, blessing, honour, magnify, bring forth, follow closely, walk/follow behind closely, to remain attached.
              In a horse race when the second horse follows the first one so closely that its head always overlaps the first horse?s body that horse is called AL-MUSSALLI (i.e. the one who follows closely / remains attached).
              Central portion of the back, portion from where the tail of an animal comes out, the rump.

              musalla (&#1610 n. m. - 2125

              salat (&#1577 n. f. sing. - 23, 243, 245, 283, 2110, 2153, 2177, 2238, 2277, 443, 477, 4101, 4102, 4103, 4103, 4103, 4142, 4162, 56, 512, 555, 558, 591, 5106, 672, 692, 6162, 7170, 83, 835, 95, 911, 918, 954, 971, 9103, 1087, 1187, 11114, 1322, 1431, 1437, 1440, 1778, 17110, 1931, 1955, 1959, 2014, 20132, 2173, 2235, 2241, 2278, 232, 2437, 2441, 2456, 2458, 2458, 273, 2945, 2945, 3031, 314, 3117, 3333, 3518, 3529, 4238, 5813, 629, 6210, 7023, 7034, 7320, 985, 1075
              salawat (&#1578 nom. gen. n. plu. - 2157, 2238, 999, 2240, 239

              salla (&#1610 vb.II m.
              perf. act. 7531, 8715, 9610
              impf. act. 339, plu. neg. 4102, plu. 4102, tusalli (&#1604 neg. 984, yusallee (&#1610 sing. 3343, yusalloona (&#1606 plu. 3356
              salli (&#1604 impv. 9103, salloo (&#1575 plu. 3356, 1082
              musalleena (&#1606 pcple. act. plu. acc. gen. 7022, 7443, 1074

              LL, V4, p 444, 445

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                GODsubmitter
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                Salaam friends,

                The thing I've been wondering about is how would one pray according to the Koran alone? Is it similar to some of the Jewish or Christian prayers I've prayed? Is there the necessity of prostration, recitation of suras, etc. as the Sunni and Shia do? Exactly what does the Koran teach about prayer?

                Thanks

                You see?...

                You will get more and more personal opinions and interpretations until you'll be saturated with them all, and still... you will not have the answer...
                each person will have his own...
                ad infinitum...

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                  Peace spiritual seeker

                  Part of he trial from the creator is sending His messengers to various communities/generations .

                  These messengers clarify/remind....

                  If you are not sure and you believe God has sent a message, study that message, keep asking God for answers, be patient, stay loyal and sincere to God alone He will guide you to His truth.

                  God bless.
                  Peace.

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                    drfazl
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                    Peace spiritual seeker

                    Part of he trial from the creator is sending His messengers to various communities/generations .

                    These messengers clarify/remind....

                    If you are not sure and you believe God has sent a message, study that message, keep asking God for answers, be patient, stay loyal and sincere to God alone He will guide you to His truth.

                    God bless.
                    Peace.

                    TRUE!

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                      Prayer is seeking from God and correcting one's individual belief system so that he can be righteous to the best satisfaction of Allah. Now his good deeds would take him to heavens. People think and give importance to prayer because they think prayer comprising of ritual bodily manipulations and movements and its postures would take them to heaven. No, it is the poise of mind and the rewards for how you behave before God's supervision with fear and obedience alone shall take you to His path that leads you to heavenly life.

                      Generally through prayer we are asking God mainly and only for this worldly things; but prayer is seeking God for forgiveness; and asking God for righteousness and Will to submit and surrender us wholesomely to God, soulfully so that we are guided and conducted by Him alone so that we satisfy Allah in our constant remembrance and reverence in Him.

                      1. And those who believe and do righteous good deeds, they are dwellers of Paradise, they will dwell therein forever.

                      So prayer is to make Allah to guide and conduct us all through our lives in this world towards the path of heaven in both the worlds; and thus prayer is not going to mosque, not bowing down towards west and not falling down on one's own forehead; and not visiting the Meccan stone-construction.

                      1. Righteousness is not turning your faces to East or West; but it is believing in Allah, His promised life, His Angels, His, Book, and His Prophets. Seeking and believing all these from Allah praising Him And revering Him in mind is being soulfully with God; and God is with such of them. Such of them are heaven winners; the rest are only bread winners in this world.

                      Prayer is linked and synced with heart; not with our body postures, nor turning our faces to whichever direction. Though the guidance is clear to our soul from Allah, we are unable to detach us away from what our forefathers taught us or the ways of prayer upon which we saw our forefathers. We are to be reminded of this ayat now

                      2170 And when it is said to the muslims, "Follow what Allah has revealed," they say, "Rather, we will follow that upon which we found our fathers doing." What! Even though their fathers understood nothing, nor were they guided?

                      Salam.

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                        Peace Dr Fazl

                        Prayer is seeking from God and correcting one's individual belief system so that he can be righteous to the best satisfaction of Allah. Now his good deeds would take him to heavens. People think and give importance to prayer because they think prayer comprising of ritual bodily manipulations and movements and its postures would take them to heaven. No, it is the poise of mind and the rewards for how you behave before God's supervision with fear and obedience alone shall take you to His path that leads you to heavenly life.

                        Generally through prayer we are asking God mainly and only for this worldly things; but prayer is seeking God for forgiveness; and asking God for righteousness and Will to submit and surrender us wholesomely to God, soulfully so that we are guided and conducted by Him alone so that we satisfy Allah in our constant remembrance and reverence in Him.

                        1. And those who believe and do righteous good deeds, they are dwellers of Paradise, they will dwell therein forever.

                        So prayer is to make Allah to guide and conduct us all through our lives in this world towards the path of heaven in both the worlds; and thus prayer is not going to mosque, not bowing down towards west and not falling down on one's own forehead; and not visiting the Meccan stone-construction.

                        1. Righteousness is not turning your faces to East or West; but it is believing in Allah, His promised life, His Angels, His, Book, and His Prophets. Seeking and believing all these from Allah praising Him And revering Him in mind is being soulfully with God; and God is with such of them. Such of them are heaven winners; the rest are only bread winners in this world.

                        Prayer is linked and synced with heart; not with our body postures, nor turning our faces to whichever direction. Though the guidance is clear to our soul from Allah, we are unable to detach us away from what our forefathers taught us or the ways of prayer upon which we saw our forefathers. We are to be reminded of this ayat now

                        2170 And when it is said to the muslims, "Follow what Allah has revealed," they say, "Rather, we will follow that upon which we found our fathers doing." What! Even though their fathers understood nothing, nor were they guided?

                        What an excellent definition and interpretation of the SALAT. This is the same SALAT I have been following and preaching for the last 11 years but unfortunately very few which can be counted on fingers adhere to this type of SALAT.

                        The ritual SALAT is nothing but garbage,

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                          spiritual_seeker_86
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                          Peace friends,

                          Thank you all for your views on prayer, and I thought it made a lot of sense, those who said that its more about remembering prayer, keeping a time apart with God in our daily lives.

                          I would agree we should remember daily prayer from the background I already have, so it seems the Koran does indeed confirm the messages that came before it, in prayer and other good things.

                          As for bowing down being the way of all the messengers, I think that could be so. I have made it a practice to kneel when I pray, which is 2-3 times a day already, because it helps humble me. I think I could add bowing to that practice of already kneeling.

                          As for how I pray. I already use Jewish, Christian, and other faith tradition prayers. I read the person saying they make use of the Lord's Prayer. I think I could add the recitation of the Surah Al Faitha into my prayers.

                          Thanks all. Pray that God may help me to understand more how Islam also can be part of my spirituality.

                          Peace

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                            Prayer is seeking from God and correcting one's individual belief system so that he can be righteous to the best satisfaction of Allah. Now his good deeds would take him to heavens. People think and give importance to prayer because they think prayer comprising of ritual bodily manipulations and movements and its postures would take them to heaven. No, it is the poise of mind and the rewards for how you behave before God's supervision with fear and obedience alone shall take you to His path that leads you to heavenly life.

                            Generally through prayer we are asking God mainly and only for this worldly things; but prayer is seeking God for forgiveness; and asking God for righteousness and Will to submit and surrender us wholesomely to God, soulfully so that we are guided and conducted by Him alone so that we satisfy Allah in our constant remembrance and reverence in Him.

                            1. And those who believe and do righteous good deeds, they are dwellers of Paradise, they will dwell therein forever.

                            So prayer is to make Allah to guide and conduct us all through our lives in this world towards the path of heaven in both the worlds; and thus prayer is not going to mosque, not bowing down towards west and not falling down on one's own forehead; and not visiting the Meccan stone-construction.

                            1. Righteousness is not turning your faces to East or West; but it is believing in Allah, His promised life, His Angels, His, Book, and His Prophets. Seeking and believing all these from Allah praising Him And revering Him in mind is being soulfully with God; and God is with such of them. Such of them are heaven winners; the rest are only bread winners in this world.

                            Prayer is linked and synced with heart; not with our body postures, nor turning our faces to whichever direction. Though the guidance is clear to our soul from Allah, we are unable to detach us away from what our forefathers taught us or the ways of prayer upon which we saw our forefathers. We are to be reminded of this ayat now

                            2170 And when it is said to the muslims, "Follow what Allah has revealed," they say, "Rather, we will follow that upon which we found our fathers doing." What! Even though their fathers understood nothing, nor were they guided?

                            Salam.

                            as per my understanding too, well said!!

                            like to share mine;
                            It is You we serve and You we ask for help.15

                            this simple verse that has been misunderstood by many
                            in my opinion, serve is more appropriate to use than worship

                            i dont know Arabic but
                            if naAAbudu is worship, naturally pray as we understand is ritual as done by all religion
                            hence the confusion because we will never find the correct method of ritual praying in AQ

                            but if naAAbudu is serve, we can find many of these scattered in AQ
                            therefore we are told to read, understand and obey His message,
                            which core of it is to do righteous, charity, help the orphan, etc

                            and I believe verse below support my statement
                            Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans - those who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve. 262

                            my understanding of prayer is believing in Him by forging a bond/connection/relationship as remembrance to Him
                            all verses begins with 'Our Lord' said by Allah's messengers are prayers
                            and below are some of few examples that I follow added with my own where necessary

                            Our Lord, and make us Muslims to You and from our descendants a Muslim nation to You. And show us our rites and accept our repentance. Indeed, You are the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful. 2128

                            "Our Lord, let not our hearts deviate after You have guided us and grant us from Yourself mercy. Indeed, You are the Bestower. 38

                            "Our Lord, indeed we have believed, so forgive us our sins and protect us from the punishment of the Fire," 316

                            prayer (relationship/connection/bonding) is between me and God ONLY
                            asking what exactly I said akin asking me what I says during my beautiful/intimate moment with my love one

                            and my prayer will begin with Surah Al Fateha a Direct Line to get connected to Him

                            that is prayer as I understand in AQ
                            to each it's own

                            The ritual SALAT is nothing but garbage,

                            Absolutely!!!

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                              Asking how,

                              Is FAR less important than

                              DOING IT

                              Don't worry about how,

                              Just do it.

                              God gave you the times of prayer, do it. Simple as that. Everything else will transpire by means of your praying morning and evening and the other times. Catch the sunrise and sunset without fail and your life will synchronise.

                              Meditation explore it in its myriad forms. For every human being there is at least one meditation (the beating of the heart) then within that there are myriad routes to meditate and feel the inner Self, to feel and release bodily tension. Ultimately the end-point is yoga/union, where a person will be entirely absorbed into the Will of The God and needs to do no further work but to just Be

                              Ritual prayer has the appearance of not-working but notice you are here? Notice other people are not here? Who guided you to this?

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                                Asking how,

                                Is FAR less important than

                                DOING IT

                                Don't worry about how,

                                Just do it.

                                God gave you the times of prayer, do it. Simple as that. Everything else will transpire by means of your praying morning and evening and the other times. Catch the sunrise and sunset without fail and your life will synchronise.

                                Meditation explore it in its myriad forms. For every human being there is at least one meditation (the beating of the heart) then within that there are myriad routes to meditate and feel the inner Self, to feel and release bodily tension. Ultimately the end-point is yoga/union, where a person will be entirely absorbed into the Will of The God and needs to do no further work but to just Be

                                Ritual prayer has the appearance of not-working but notice you are here? Notice other people are not here? Who guided you to this?

                                Yes. It is more important to get to action than to just sit and engage in philosophies.
                                However, we MUST have the right intentions and right prayers behind our actions.
                                If we are sincere, we may be guided to better and better practices, even if we start out doing useless rituals.
                                We don't have to be perfect to the first time. We can't anyway.
                                Take action and pray for guidance, and chances are that we will be guided towards better directions, being fine tuned.
                                This takes time and patience... and sincere, humble and sensible action from our side.

                                Peace

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                                  PEACE ALL

                                  UNLESS THE MUSLIMS DO NOT FREE THEMSELVES FROM THE SHACKLES OF THE RITUAL GARBAGE PRAYER THEY WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHAT SALAT IS.

                                  Those who IN THEIR SALAT are LOWLY 232

                                  If We had sent down this Qur'an upon a mountain, you would have seen it humbled (SUBDUED OR BROUGHT LOW IN CONDITION OR STATUS) and coming apart from fear of Allah. And THESE EXAMPLES We present to the people that perhaps THEY WILL GIVE THOUGHT 5921

                                  HUMBLE NOT PROUD NOT THINKING OF YOURSELF AS BETTER THAN OTHER PEOPLE (IN SALAT)

                                  GIVEN OR SAID IN A WAY THAT SHOWS YOU DO NOT THINK YOU ARE BETTER THAN THE OTHER PEOPLE (IN SALAT)

                                  SHOWING THAT YOU DO NOT THINK YOURSELF AS BETTER THAN OTHER PEOPLE (IN SALAT)

                                  MARKED BY MEEKNESS OR MODESTY IN BEHAVIOR, ATTITUDE, SPIRIT (IN THE SALAT)

                                  NOT ARROGANT OR PRIDEFUL (IN THE SALAT)

                                  SHOWING DEFERENTIAL OR SUBMISSIVE RESPECT (IN SALAT)

                                  HUMBLED SUBDUED OR BROUGHT LOW IN CONDITION OR STATUS (IN SALAT)

                                  HOW THE MUSLIMS EXECUTE ALL THE ABOVE HUMBLENESS IN THEIR SALAT.

                                  THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW ARABIC AND DO NOT HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THE QURAN, HOW THEY WILL BE HUMBLE IN THEIR PRAYER?

                                  Those who UPON/ ON THEIR SALAT are CONSTANT / STEADFAST (dutifully firm and unwavering / FIRM IN MIND) 7023

                                  CONSTANT CONTINUING WITHOUT PAUSE OR LET UP UNCEASING

                                  STEADFAST FIRM IN MIND OR PURPOSE RESOLUTE

                                  ARE THE MUSLIMS ON / UPON THEIR SALAT DUTIFULLY FIRM AND UNWAVERING

                                  So woe to those who PRAY 1074

                                  Those who OF / FROM THEIR SALAT are NEGLECTFUL/CARELESS 1075

                                  HOW THOSE WHO PRAY REGULARLY ARE NEGLECTFUL / CARELESS OF / FROM THEIR SALAT

                                  And this is a Book We have sent down, blest, and confirming that which hath been before it. And it is sent that thou mayest warn thereby the mother of towns and those around it. And those who believe in the Hereafter believe in it, and they UPON THEIR SALAT are GUARDIANS 692

                                  NOT everybody GAURD THEIR SALAT but only those who believe in the Hereafter, believes in the Quran and THEY GUARD THEIR SALAT.

                                  EVERY MUSLIM BELIEVES IN THE HEREAFTER AND BELIEVES IN THE QURAN THEREFORE EVERY MUSLIM GUARDS HIS SALAT. HOW?

                                  TILL TODAY I HAVE NOT MET A SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS DEMONSTRATED THE GUARDING OF THE SALAT

                                  Successful indeed are the believers 231 And those who UPON THEIR SALAT are GUARDIANS 239 (MOMIN)

                                  THOSE BELIEVERS ARE SUCCESSFUL WHO GUARD THEIR SALAT? NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO GUARD THE SALAT THEREFORE NOT A SINGLE BELIEVER IS SUCCESSFUL. QUITE INTERESTING.

                                  And those who UPON THEIR SALAT are GUARDIANS 7034 (MUSALLEEN)

                                  MUSALLEEN ESTABLISHER OF PRAYER

                                  THOSE WHO ESTABLISH THE PRAYER WILL ENTER THE GARDEN IF THEY GAURD THEIR SALAT

                                  HOW MANY MUSLIMS KNOW HOW TO GUARD THEIR SALAT?

                                  Guard your (ALL FIVE) PRAYERS, and the MIDDLE PRAYER and stand before God in devotion. 2;238

                                  HOW TO GUARD ALL THE FIVE PRAYERS PLUS ALL OTHER EXTRA PRAYERS WHICH ARE INVENTED BY THE HADITHISTS AND THE ASR PRAYER? WHERE IS THE EXPLANATION OF THE PROPHET, THE HADITHISTS, THE SCHOLARS, THE MULLAHS, THE INFALLIBLE IMAMS IN RESPECT OF GUARDING THE SALAT.

                                  IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW TO GUARD THE SALAT THEN LEARN FROM THE HADITH

                                  Narrated Zaid bin Arqam In the life-time of the Prophet we used to SPEAK WHILE PRAYING, and one of us would TELL HIS NEEDS TO HIS COMPANIONS, till the verse, 'GUARD strictly your prayers (2.23 was revealed. After that we were ordered to remain silent while praying. (Book #22, Hadith #292)

                                  Narrated Zaid bin Arqam We used to SPEAK WHILE IN PRAYER. One of us used to SPEAK TO HIS BROTHER (while in prayer) about his need, till the Verse was revealed-- "GUARD strictly the (five obligatory) prayers, especially the middle (the Best) (Asr) Prayer and stand before Allah with obedience (and not to speak to others during the prayers)." Then we were ordered not to speak in the prayers. (Book #60, Hadith #5

                                  Al-Bara' b. 'Azib reported This verse was revealed (in this way)" GUARD the prayers and the 'Asr prayer." We recited it (in this very way) so long as Allah desired. Allah, then, abrogated it and it was revealed" GUARD the prayers, and the middle prayer." A person who was sitting with Shaqiq (one of the narrators in the chain of transmitters) said Now it implies the 'Asr prayer. Upon this al-Bara' said I have already informed you how this (verse) was revealed and how Allah abrogated it, and Allah knows best. Imam Muslim said Ashja'i narrated it from Sufyan al-Thauri, who narrated it from al-Aswad b. Qais, who narrated it from 'Uqba, who narrated it from al-Bara' b. 'Azib who said We recited with the Prophet (may peace be upon him) (the above-mentioned verse like this, i. e. instead of Salat al- Wusta, Salat al-'Asr) for a certain period. as It has been mentioned (in the above-quoted hadith). (Book #004, Hadith #1317)

                                  Tell the believing men to reduce of their vision and GUARD THEIR PRIVATE PARTS / CHASTITY That is purer for them. Indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what they do 2430

                                  And say thou unto the believing women that they shall lower their sights and AND GUARD THEIR PRIVATE PARTS / CHASTITY ...... 24;31

                                  ALMOST ALL PEOPLE OF THE WORLD KNOW HOW TO GUARD THEIR CHASTITY WITHOUT THE TEACHING AF ALLAH, BECAUSE IT IS IN OUR INSTINCT

                                  THEN WHY THE BELIEVERS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO GUARD THEIR PRAYERS?

                                  IS THERE SOMEONE WHO CAN TEACH ME HOW TO GUARD MY SALAT?

                                  THANKS

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                                    Salaam brother hafeez kazi,

                                    I am glad you got into this investigation. The mysterious salat and zakat riddle may soon be solved and why they are frequently presented together throughout Quran.

                                    Could you please give the verse numbers so I can sit here and think upon it?

                                    Zakat does not mean exactly the thing sectarians imply. This I have known for quite a while. Of course giving charity is a way to zakat yourself, but it is just a small part of its full meaning.

                                    So if salat does not mean prayer what does it mean? I felt it could mean being conscious of God, but it does not seem to suit the verses your supplied. Like "be mindful of me and purify yourselves".

                                    However, I still do not exclude prayers altogether, but that is not the meaning of salat. Other verses, especially the ones that command to stay awake at night and think might be related to prayer-like activities. Note that I still do not consider it like a ritualistic prayer but more a focus on the prayer's true purpose such as meditation.

                                    There is however one confusion. There is one verse that talks about the volume of salat and another that talks about salat in war situations. What about those?

                                    How about "Pray to me and purify yourselves" or "Contact/connect to me and purify yourselves" or "Implore me and purify yourselves"?

                                    I am sure that salat is to be able to zakat yourself, ie become purified. How is that easier done than to implore God and put your faith in Him to purify yourself? If you do not concentrate as in meditation on your prayer it will not make any difference to your spiritual life. Brain dead ritualistic movement will not change this. If you are not conscious of what you do you cannot purify yourself. So when you do salat you should study the Message (al-kitab) and reflect upon what God has created and sit and merely meditate that you may receive Nearness, Guidance, Knowledge and Wisdom as in my thread with a similar name.

                                    God has no need for your salat but you do. It is a connection to God where you will build up a bond between the two of you which in return will lead to your purification. It will definitely help your personality as you meditate upon your behavior and actions in life.

                                    Thanks again brother for your thoughts and please answer with an open mind here and help me solve this mystery which has been distorted over the centuries. We need no Pagan rituals in our religion, God's religion... or should we say system/deen? Only invented Pagan gods need strange rituals to be pleased as part of human superstition. It is obvious that polytheistic powers twisted the understanding of early Islam to their old weird practices.

                                    Now I am not saying that prostration or kneeling is Paganism, but having many weird combinations such as the classical rakah system or monotonous words repeated like robots. Even Jesus allegedly talks against this practice in the Gospel testimonies. I believe that Jesus actually spoke those words and that it is Pagan behavior to please their gods. True prayers are very personal and is more about imploring God what you need and having like a friend that you cannot see but sees you and protects you and is a powerful ally. I am even sure really strong believers can receive active guidance from God directly in real time.

                                    Hope we can help each other, brother.

                                    God bless you

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                                      Just as guarding chastity can be done through common sense and intuition, I'm sure we know the same for Salaa... it's just that we don't know what Salaa is... we have made it tooo complicated and mutated. The problem is not guarding.... but WHAT to guard. In the end I'm sure it is quite straight forward and common sense, and perhaps many of us do it without even knowing it. I'm sure we're looking in the wrong place as usual... just like atheists are looking for God in the wrong place/level, finding nothing, and concluding there is no God or need for God. I think we are indeed lost and blind, and that matters are MUCH simpler than we think. Again, our intellectual minds, handicapped no matter how brilliant, are screwing up our case. Reality is probably much simpler and common sense than we think. I fear religion is the greatest obstacle on the way to God and goodness. Religion is anything but natural and normal.

                                      peace

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                                        "I am even sure really strong believers can receive active guidance from God directly in real time."

                                        Part of sala & zaka is the recognising that this is already happening to everyone P

                                        Why did that leaf flutter in front of me at this oh so convenient time?

                                        I guess Allah believes in Allah, after all, who else?

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                                          Salaam,

                                          If only our ancestors had not twisted the meaning of the words in the first place to fit Pagan rituals...

                                          I am so curious about the word salat and its true meaning in the context of Quran.

                                          God bless you

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