Believers in 2 Salat with prayer prostration
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Salaam progod,
When we can take Islam for what it is and not complicate things then I think we can.
God bless you
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Peace,
The complication is in figuring out what the Quran wants from us as a religion without traditionalist or anti-traditionalist bias and with a desire to understand the words and ideas given to us in the Quran in the most authentic, and logical, manner that is consistent with every command, suggestion and teaching throughout the book. This seems to be a daunting task and divisive. I think it is even more daunting when the community is so biased against traditionalists that they cannot even bear to open up the best sources available for the Arabic language, read, study, learn and understand with an eye on what words and meanings came about after the Quran and what words and meanings could have existed and been understood by Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and his contemporaries the day before he received the Quran.
Salaam!
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Salaam,
Practically what Quran wants from us is already clear to us.
God bless you
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In Arabic there are two kinds of plurals, the plural for ONLY 2 and the plural for 3 or more (see http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_grammar). The plural for two in our case would be Salaateini not Salawati! Now if the Verse says Salawati and middle Salaat, the logic of Arabic grammar already points to
(3 or more)+(1) = (4 or more)
If there were only 3 Prayers God would have said
Observe the ?Salaateini?, and the middle Salaat, and devote yourselves totally to GOD
This would equate to 3 the number of our prayers, if there were ONLY 3 prayers Salaateini means 2, to which we add the middle Salaat and we get the total of 3, which is not the case.
The whole article here
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Godsubmitter,
Yes, I understand the position but as I said before
As for Salawaat being referred to as a plural that is more than two, I have been of the belief that if you are going to be doing something 2 times every day for many days, it automatically can be referred to in a plural greater than 3 because it will be done in many more than just two times over one's lifetime. I see no contradiction with two prescribed daily times being referred to in a plural more than two if one is to do this every day for the rest of one's capable life. If you eat two times a day, you can still refer to those meals as one's many meals in the context of one's lifetime AS WELL as one's two daily meals.
However, this forum is for people who are convinced about 2 Salat only. So we respect your right to believe what you believe, but please do not post in this forum.
Salaam to you!
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Salaam,
And I believe in an infinite number where only one's stinginess determines the limit of Salat.
See how many different interpretations we have.
Sorry for being provoking you, I could not help. Do as you please with Salat, but put in some voluntary Salat for the sake of God will you?
God bless you
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Godsubmitter,
Yes, I understand the position but as I said before
However, this forum is for people who are convinced about 2 Salat only. So we respect your right to believe what you believe, but please do not post in this forum.
Salaam to you!
I apologize, just wanted to show you another point of view corroborated with an article published.
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I think it is 2 Salats (official) with 1 additional night salat.
http//zulux.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/THREE%20times%20prayer%20in%20Quran.pdfPls have a a look at this PDF 2 pages color chart.
Let me know what you guys think please.
Thank you.
P.S> I post this not to promote my view of Salat but to make sure myself it is correct, as I could be wrong too in something. So I hope this forum helps all of us to sharpen each other's views. -
I really don't know what to think about Salat anymore...
