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She's Not Naked !!!

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    unknownuser
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    Salaam

    Difficult is where to draw the limit. But the community together draws that standard and in the western world it is okay with generous cleavage and things like that so no wonder these women protect their newfound dresscode. If something is normalized then it is difficult to change, but like I said in my previous post that if men showed their dislike at the heavy body revelation then women would change, but right now the whole community is accepting the behavior and looks except people who are seen as a minority. It is only when a majority of people show a certain thing is wrong or people of authority then a certain behavior will change.

    Thanks, wisdom as always

    Yeah in current society, people who didn't follow the majority's behavior mostly will get abandoned in society.
    This is one of the main problem in our faith.Can we be strong to hold our faith in the middle of society who opposite it??

    GBU

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      good_logic
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      Peace ForTheTruth.

      You asked a simple question! 23 pages later....

      I will say go for it .Enjoy Hawaii and its wonderful sea. I agree with you .

      Both of you, have a lovely time.

      When you com back, browse the forum, we will still be discussing it.

      God bless.
      Peace.

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        Bismillah
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        The cult that created french revolution, marxism, counterculture, etc. has created also feminism but feminism is like a Golem and now the (pseudo)creator cannot control the creature.

        When somebody warns a feminist (darkness daughter and self-worshipper, Lilith style girl) saying her "do what you want but don't claim that it's from Allah" she will answer for sure "I will say that's from Allah and nobody can stop me". If another warns "When in Rome dress like romans" she will certainly answer "When in Rome I dress like I want" and everytime the feminist answer in this way. Nobody can change her fake concept of freedom and for sure I wannot to do it, I only want to warn men of every race and religion about the feminism as an ideology of hate that is showing its true face here in the West.

        When feminists are inside patriarchal societies they appeal to victimism and to the stupid chivalry of old fashioned, (pseudo)traditional men... but brothers, when they take the power (supported by financial elite and bizarre cults) they implement policies of tiranny against men kill your husband and don't go jail, commit adultery and you'll get a good divorce taken the kids and getting a nice alimony of the man, take a good job because the non elected Government of European Union stablished preference for ladies while the men become jobless, etc.

        All this is against basic common sense and if some men think that they can persuade feminists to participate in a team with men they are in a big mistake, because they are men haters, despite their angel face and their mermaid's songs (cf. Ulyses and the mermaids myth).

        Feminism look like this... sun group

        But really is... voodoo elektro

        Well, if everybody can say that she/he likes is from Allah somebody can say that can eat pork and become drunk drinking wine, can have consensual (agree) sexual intercourse with her/his father, mother, brother or sister... why not? if both like it, everybody is free... no? And the worse, she/he can say that all this is from Allah.

        This is the final point of absolute freedom no Law, even the basic ten commandments of Moses are superstition and patriarchal opresion, male control, etc.

        They don't realize that is about moral and social structures that prevent Chaos and Yahiliya.

        Universe has a structure and when you see an atom the protons and neutrons are in the nucleus and electrons in a orbit around them... but you know, all this is protonic opression, evil protons want to control innocent electrons, definitely protonic atom has to be abolished and replaced by a aleatory mix of particles or by a new atom with the electrons in the nucleus and the protons around them (antiparticles and antimatter).

        God created Universe with particles and matter and no with antiparticles and antimatter, but obviusly anyone is free to say that matter isn't ok and a Universe of antimatter is Allah's will. It's free to say it but it's a LIE.

        Allahu akbar

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          I admire the Japanese because they have great mental strength and very discipline, .......

          Yes, but not the women, of course; those feeble vixens! You forgot to add that this "mental strength and discipline" applies only to the men of Japan and not those citizens in personal possession of a vagina- God forbid!

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            muslims
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            Yes, but not the women, of course;

            Including the women and their life as a whole. Sometimes I can't imagine how people can control their moves and action etc. This includes how they design their house and garden, their arts etc. Fineness and simplicity.. evidencing how they value nature and life, to the extent of every detail. All these needs lots of focus and self discipline. Mastering the heart and self control... I don't admire western culture or women and got a headache just by looking at them. Nothing so special about them, and just a matter of personal preferences over many traditions and cultures, everyone has their own preferences. laugh

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              Including the women and their life as a whole. Sometimes I can't imagine how people can control their moves and action etc. This includes how they design their house and garden, their arts etc. Fineness and simplicity.. evidencing how they value nature and life, to the extent of every detail. All these needs lots of focus and self discipline. Self control... I don't admire western culture or women and got a headache just by looking at them. Nothing so special about them, and just a matter of personal preferences over many traditions and cultures, everyone has their own preferences. laugh

              By saying this racist word, so this is how yu implemented your Islam
              This is how u became proper being?? Mocking western people, but using their product in daily life rotfl

              You must said thanks to them, because one of Malaysian economy rely upon western investation.If they leave your wallet will reach the downfall.

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                Including the women and their life as a whole. Sometimes I can't imagine how people can control their moves and action etc. This includes how they design their house and garden, their arts etc. Fineness and simplicity.. evidencing how they value nature and life, to the extent of every detail. All these needs lots of focus and self discipline. Mastering the heart and self control... I don't admire western culture or women and got a headache just by looking at them. Nothing so special about them, and just a matter of personal preferences over many traditions and cultures, everyone has their own preferences. laugh

                So, when you made generalisations about women previously, that only applies to "Western" women. "Eastern" women are, of course, not like that - I should have figured! That stands to reason. Thanks for the imparting of clarity. Anyway, I best rush along now, I've got to spend the next twelve hours plastering makeup on my face so that when I go to work my co-workers will "accept" me, then I've to give my collections of handbags a polish so I'm not "humiliated" tomorrow morning for not having shiny accessories . And of course, I've got to fit in a group therapy session as well this evening with all my female friends because we're so "afraid" of society and blighted by expectation and all the rest of it so we might communicate our pathetic feelings to one another and "release some tension".

                Toodle pip!

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                  muslims
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                  Yes you should... by the way, why wear makeup and bother with all that stuff when you are claiming equal rights? confused

                  Men don't wear make up!

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                    Yes you should...

                    Perhaps you think this is a good way to spend your time, but this is not how I choose to spend my time - nor did I realise that you were paying me for my time and that I am under your instruction............ hmm

                    by the way, why wear makeup when you are claiming equal rights? confused

                    Not that I am denying that women should be given equal rights, but do point out to me where I have explicitly asserted that women should have "equal" rights to men.

                    I do not wear make-up. Even if I chose to, it is no concern of yours.

                    Men don't wear make up!

                    "Men don't wear make up!" ? hmm

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                      muslims
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                      Okay, but I think you should wear make-up.. just a suggestion. laugh

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                        Bismillah
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                        Including the women, sometimes I can't imagine how people can control their moves and action etc. This includes how they design their house and garden, their arts etc.. fineness and simplicity.. evidencing they value nature and life. All these needs lots of focus and self discipline. Self control... I don't admire western women and got a headache just by looking at them. Nothing special, just a matter of personal preferences over many traditions and cultures, everyone has. laugh

                        Man, when no western women live in the West (that is economically not controlled by european people) they act the same or even worse than european women.

                        And perhaps is ok arab women become feminists, because this is going to put down arab racism, supremacism, etc.

                        Even evil things happen because God allow them for some reason.

                        Arab men have a lot of fear of woman discovering they can do a lot of things like men ("oh, don't drive because is bad for your health" rotfl.

                        A lot of people when say that hate something western, the West, etc. is also hating european people. Next elections in France far right of Marine Le Pen (fascist woman) is going to win socialists and conservatives (controlled both by financial power). Europe have also Russia and Mr. Putin... it isn't western but is european. We are not going to tolerate racism against europeans in our Homeland.

                        In Europe we have no fear of strong woman, only we don't like misandry and women abusing men. But you cannot continue telling fairy tales to women and pretend they believe you.

                        God is with the righteous, the humble, who looks for the Justice, the Truth and the Order. No matter the race of he/she lives in the West or in the East.

                        One God for everybody.

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                          muslims
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                          Men is like a day, women are like night.. that's how the Quran describe men and women

                          and as a matter of preferences...

                          I'm not interested with "night" that wish to become or pretend to become "day"

                          Day... is day

                          Night.. is night

                          It is balance, sunnatullah... simple life and understanding..

                          I don't need to confuse whether it is daylight or night, neither with my children... laugh

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                            Peace "muslims",

                            It is clearly said..

                            and men is like a day, women are like night.. that's how the Quran describe

                            and as a matter of preferences...

                            I'm not interested with "night" that wish to become or pretend to be "day"

                            Day... is day

                            Night.. is night

                            Simple life.. and I don't need to confuse whether it is daylight or night... laugh

                            hmm giveup

                            God knows what you're talking about.

                            May the good Lord guide you.

                            Assalamu alaikum.

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                              muslims
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                              May the good Lord guide you.

                              God always know, may the Lord guide me.. laugh

                              Waalaikumsalam

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                                es
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                                Okay, but I think you should wear make-up.. just a suggestion. laugh

                                Grow up.

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                                  yellowdog8272
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                                  Man, when no western women live in the West (that is economically not controlled by european people) they act the same or even worse than european women.

                                  And perhaps is ok arab women become feminists, because this is going to put down arab racism, supremacism, etc.

                                  Even evil things happen because God allow them for some reason.

                                  Arab men have a lot of fear of woman discovering they can do a lot of things like men ("oh, don't drive because is bad for your health" rotfl.

                                  A lot of people when say that hate something western, the West, etc. is also hating european people. Next elections in France far right of Marine Le Pen (fascist woman) is going to win socialists and conservatives (controlled both by financial power). Europe have also Russia and Mr. Putin... it isn't western but is european. We are not going to tolerate racism against europeans in our Homeland.

                                  In Europe we have no fear of strong woman, only we don't like misandry and women abusing men. But you cannot continue telling fairy tales to women and pretend they believe you.

                                  God is with the righteous, the humble, who looks for the Justice, the Truth and the Order. No matter the race of he/she lives in the West or in the East.

                                  One God for everybody.

                                  lol I just want to add

                                  People act as if Europe is a united region. The truth is that Europeans hate each other more than anything. The Swedes here want to leave the EU(European union), because they don't want to associate themselves with other Europeans and because they find that the EU is somehow "destroying" their country. Eastern-Europe hate Western-Europe more than anything. Europe is becoming more miserable(due to conservatist-nationalists christians), it's a divided region. It bothers me when people think Europe is somehow united, a common thing. Europe has always destroyed itself.. Like for example during WW-1 were millions died in Europe, and then you had the same thing during WW2.

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                                    muslims
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                                    I think the bubble will explode and worst to come... soon.

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                                      muslims
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                                      By saying this racist word, so this is how yu implemented your Islam

                                      Are you blind? confused

                                      Fineness and simplicity.. evidencing how they value nature and life, to the extent of every detail. All these needs lots of focus and self discipline. Mastering the heart and self control just a matter of personal preferences over many traditions and cultures, everyone has their own preferences. laugh

                                      O mankind, indeed We have created you
                                      from male and female
                                      and made you peoples
                                      and tribes
                                      that you may know one another
                                      Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
                                      is the most righteous of you <- being grateful with their life, "how they value nature and life"
                                      Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted
                                      (49.13)

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                                        Bismillah
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                                        lol I just want to add

                                        People act as if Europe is a united region. The truth is that Europeans hate each other more than anything. The Swedes here want to leave the EU(European union), because they don't want to associate themselves with other Europeans and because they find that the EU is somehow "destroying" their country. Eastern-Europe hate Western-Europe more than anything. Europe is becoming more miserable(due to conservatist-nationalists christians), it's a divided region. It bothers me when people think Europe is somehow united, a common thing. Europe has always destroyed itself.. Like for example during WW-1 were millions died in Europe, and then you had the same thing during WW2.

                                        I hate also European Union, but regarding hate between europeans I think that it's true like in another continents (ex. black africans hate each other, turks and kurds, civil war in Syria, etc.).

                                        You know that in Europe you're free to talk about religions, you can be a foreign salafist, you can be conservative christian, you can be practically all... but you cannot talk with real freedom about Adolf Hitler and WW2. There is an official version and if you say something against it, you'll go to jail.

                                        Europe lost WW2 and was invaded and occupied (and still remain in this situation) by Middle Eastern bankers from U.S.A. and marxist U.S.S.R. Nowadays, they are forcing massive inmigration in order to destroy our societies and, as everybody knows that the best allies of Wall Street are Saudia Arabia, Qatar, etc.

                                        Conservative christians are puppets of Wall Street, no matter their speeches. Europe is the land of european peoples and I'm talking about race and not about religion... a bosniak muslim is as european as a croatian catholic and both fighted with the SS in WW2.

                                        We don't hate another people but everybody have their homeland. Arabs have their homeland and, talking about races the christian arabs are as arabs as the muslim ones.

                                        Bosniaks, albanians, pomacs (slavics) or european reverted muslim are european.
                                        Coptic egyptian, Syria or Lebanon christians are arabs.
                                        Chinese confucian, muslim (Hui people) or christian are chinese and fight for Chine. Uigur people are against Chine no because religion but because they are turks and not chinese.

                                        I don't want a christian Europe but another different (I cannot talk free) and european muslims will be free the same of european christians. No european people (no matter their religion) could live in Europe in a little number but never as a massive inmigration like today happens.

                                        Hitler commited the mistake of anti-slavic and anti-russian geopolitics, but this time European Homeland will be one from Portugal and Ireland to Vladivostok, with a no religious but racialist axis Paris-Berlin-Moscow. As you know all the tale abut french resistence is a lie, and french were supporters of Adolf.

                                        We want to control our economy and stop the usury controling our lives. We want to destroy counterculture and live in peace with asians, turks, iranians (our cousins in Middle East), arabs, blacks or mixed people of America. But is disgusting to be at your homeland and see people of another races hating you (no matter muslims, christians or voodoo)... imagine Saudi Arabia with massive inmigration of european, chinese, blacks of all religions and hating arab people... do you think it's logic?

                                        Of course american wars in Irak and Afganistan have only two pourposes consolidate Israel power in Middle East (now Al Qaeda is helping in it) and attacks Russia in Central Asia. Also, the Federal Reserve of U.S.A. is noway controlled by americans.

                                        Peace and Mercy of God to everybody, no matter sex or race, but the World have an Order.

                                        Allah know best

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                                          DrGm
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                                          I wrote like that because "O' Prophet", "O' Messenger" are generally accepted and assumed as "O' Mohammed".

                                          one hand by your writings you show that you have some original thoughts about quran. here you mention / follow, also assume, what is 'generally accepted' by your mullahs, salafist, deobandists, muslims sects, etc.,

                                          in my view, you are not following quran alone, you have your impacts of hadiths and the people following hadiths around you. the very reason you become haste very often and getting emotion. to follow quran basically we need is patience. i pray you seek patience from your Lord. remember my initial welcome posts, i do not have anything against you or any of you.

                                          This is just one example of arts of brainwashing or tactics used by clergymen to convince their followers or potential followers of their cults to believe in their teachings.
                                          ...The clergymen tend to use something like "if you sincerely love God, you would follow bla bla and bla rules"

                                          you cannot brainwash to quran, to get out of quran you need brainwashed. so whenever you read quran ask protection from your Lord from satan. i am here only to know others view on quran only and share mine. i myself is only a follower of Allah alone, quran alone.

                                          peace

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