Mathematical Approach and Finding the Proportion of Addition
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1825 And they remained in their cave for three hundred years, and increased by nine.
There are 15.78 cycles of 19 years in 300 years.
One 19 year cycle has 7x13 months + 12x12 months = 91+ 144 = 235 months = 19 years.
15.78 x 235 months = 3708,3 months
936 The count of the months with God is twelve months in the book of God the day He created the heavens and the earth;...
3708,3 months 12 = 309.025 years
1825 And they remained in their cave for three hundred years, and increased by nine.
...which totally make 309. This is one approach of using luni-solar counting of time to proove this verse.
Another approach is this
If for 300 years are added 9, how many years are to be added for 19 years?
With the simple mathematics of proportion we begin
(300/9) = (19/x)
x = (19*9/300)
19 years = 6939.55 days
300 years = 109572 days
9 years = 3287.16 daysApplying these values in the equation for x, we find the value
x = 208.186 days
which is
x = 7.05 months
So, if for 300 year are added 9, for 19 years are added 7 months.
Which corresponds to the natural 19 year cycle where 7 years are with 13 months.
Hence, 7 months added for 19 years.
With this the natural time counting is also mathematically concluded.
Peace, and Praise be to God. The Lord of the worlds.
R.
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Thank you very much!
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1825 And they remained in their cave for three hundred years, and increased by nine.
...which totally make 309. This is one approach of using luni-solar counting of time to proove this verse.
Peace dhe tung Ustahi -- see usage 390 furthermore increased they disbelief/rejection of
1825 is conjecture i.e. "and increased they" not increase by; answered in next verse...
1825 and remained they in cave theirs three hundred snyn and increase they nine of
1826 say the god of knowledge in what remained they for him unseen the heavens and the earth -
Pershendetje, Ustahi osht nick-name-i jem. Rinon Hoxha jom un.
When reading scriptures the key is understanding behind the reading.
Here are many translations of the same verse.
Literal
And they stayed/remained in their cave three hundred years and they were increased (by) nine (years).
Free_Minds
And they remained in their cave for three hundred years, and increased by nine.
Khalifa
They stayed in their cave three hundred years, increased by nine.
Yusuf_Ali
So they stayed in their Cave three hundred years, and (some) add nine (more)
Shakir
And they remained in their cave three hundred years and (some) add (another) nine.
Pickthal
And (it is said) they tarried in their Cave three hundred years and add nine.
Arberry
And they tarried in the Cave three hundred years, and to that they added nine more.
George_Sale
And they remained in their cave three hundred years, and nine years over.
Hilali_Khan
And they stayed in their Cave three hundred (solar) years, and add nine (for lunar years).
Malik
Some say they stayed in their cave three hundred years and some add another nine.
Maulana_Ali
And they remained in their cave three hundred years, and they add nine.
QXP
And it is said they lived in the Cave for three hundred years. Others say, "Nay, add nine to that number."Peace,
R. -
Thank you very much!
You are welcome God submitter.
Peace,
R. -
Pershendetje, Ustahi osht nick-name-i jem. Rinon Hoxha jom un.
When reading scriptures the key is understanding behind the reading.
Here are many translations of the same verse.
Literal
And they stayed/remained in their cave three hundred years and they were increased (by) nine (years).
Free_Minds
And they remained in their cave for three hundred years, and increased by nine.
Khalifa
They stayed in their cave three hundred years, increased by nine.
Yusuf_Ali
So they stayed in their Cave three hundred years, and (some) add nine (more)
Shakir
And they remained in their cave three hundred years and (some) add (another) nine.
Pickthal
And (it is said) they tarried in their Cave three hundred years and add nine.
Arberry
And they tarried in the Cave three hundred years, and to that they added nine more.
George_Sale
And they remained in their cave three hundred years, and nine years over.
Hilali_Khan
And they stayed in their Cave three hundred (solar) years, and add nine (for lunar years).
Malik
Some say they stayed in their cave three hundred years and some add another nine.
Maulana_Ali
And they remained in their cave three hundred years, and they add nine.
QXP
And it is said they lived in the Cave for three hundred years. Others say, "Nay, add nine to that number."Peace,
R.Salaam Rinon (une jam Bajrami) -- most the translations are imprecise, inaccurate, inconsistent, add/omit words, which we have to read carefully the exact words being used, cross-reference, use context, and translate close as possible to original.
1825 they?re making an assumption...
http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=37934
1825 and remained they in cave theirs three hundred snyn/seasons and increase they nine of
The answer to assumptive speculation is given thus...
1826 say the god of knowledge in what remained they to him unseen the heavens and the earth...
See exact same word usage ...
http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=7676
390 surely the ones kafar/nonbeliever they after faith theirs furthermore increase they disbelief/rejection of never accepted turn back/repentance theirs and surely those they the straying
Peace
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Bajram,
Language is the sprinkle of Reality.
Sincerely, I don't see any essential value in your argument.
Also, it's not correct to despise native arab speakers who have translated Koran. May be that you are of rare examples when one foreigner knows the language better than the native. However, form is complete only when in the function of essence.
Nevertheless, meaning is the purpose of the language. As is the purpose of life.
Btw, I know neither Arabic, nor Aramanic nor Hebrew.
Knowing is beyond words.
Peace,
R. -
1825 And they remained in their cave for three hundred years, and increased by nine.
There are 15.78 cycles of 19 years in 300 years.
One 19 year cycle has 7x13 months + 12x12 months = 91+ 144 = 235 months = 19 years.
15.78 x 235 months = 3708,3 months
936 The count of the months with God is twelve months in the book of God the day He created the heavens and the earth;...
3708,3 months 12 = 309.025 years
1825 And they remained in their cave for three hundred years, and increased by nine.
...which totally make 309. This is one approach of using luni-solar counting of time to proove this verse.
Another approach is this
If for 300 years are added 9, how many years are to be added for 19 years?
With the simple mathematics of proportion we begin
(300/9) = (19/x)
x = (19*9/300)
19 years = 6939.55 days
300 years = 109572 days
9 years = 3287.16 daysApplying these values in the equation for x, we find the value
x = 208.186 days
which is
x = 7.05 months
So, if for 300 year are added 9, for 19 years are added 7 months.
Which corresponds to the natural 19 year cycle where 7 years are with 13 months.
Hence, 7 months added for 19 years.
With this the natural time counting is also mathematically concluded.
Peace, and Praise be to God. The Lord of the worlds.
R.
This makes no sense whatsoever. Why would you divide 300 by 19? Then get an imperfect result and mess about with that . . . and finally claim
With this the natural time counting is also mathematically concluded.
Well - it isn't. The above is just random adding, multiplying and dividing . . . how is that proof for anything?
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LOL!
as you say....
Do as you see fit dude.
Peace,
R.