share your feelings after you submitting yourself truly
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how does your heart feel now after submitting to allah
some times i feel that is this really true ? &
or i am fooled by some book &
but when i feel this i immediately open quran nope
and i get some satisfactions pr
is this happens to you ...i am always in chase that allah should give 100 percent confirmation nope
or else i feel that i am being fooled weather this book is really from someone special or being corrupted by human beings &
since all books are corrupted man made written then i also doubt all books are wrong only this one right hmm
but when there is a doubt there is always an aiyat clearing that doubt i fear so hard hail -
how does your heart feel now after submitting to allah
Salaamun alayka bro,
freed
some times i feel that is this really true ? &
or i am fooled by some book ¬ anymore lhamduliAllah hail
but when i feel this i immediately open quran nope
and i get some satisfactions prMaybe better is when you feel this then remember Allah.
The Quran is one way to remember Allah but there are endless more ayaats besides the ayaats of The Quran how to remember Allah.is this happens to you ...i am always in chase that allah should give 100 percent confirmation nope
I think this happens to everyone at some point in his life, at least to me and it seems also to you.
These moments are very important, now it's time not to loose your patience and have full certainty in Allah.
And everything will become inshaAllah certain for you.or else i feel that i am being fooled weather this book is really from someone special or being corrupted by human beings &
RED have you ever studied this?
since all books are corrupted man made written then i also doubt all books are wrong only this one right hmm
but when there is a doubt there is always an aiyat clearing that doubt i fear so hard hailRED Challenge it. This is the only way you will come to know for yourself.
salaam,
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how does your heart feel now after submitting to allah
some times i feel that is this really true ? &
or i am fooled by some book &
but when i feel this i immediately open quran nope
and i get some satisfactions pr
is this happens to you ...i am always in chase that allah should give 100 percent confirmation nope
or else i feel that i am being fooled weather this book is really from someone special or being corrupted by human beings &
since all books are corrupted man made written then i also doubt all books are wrong only this one right hmm
but when there is a doubt there is always an aiyat clearing that doubt i fear so hard hailI experienced all those same feelings and thoughts as you, many times over and over again since I first accepted the Qur'an few years ago, and I still do not have 100% certainty...
But then, maybe I haven't submitted myself truly (as you say)...
Lately I am inclined to think that I (we) will never, ever know for sure... (because there is no clear-cut understanding of salat, hajj etc) ...and that we might as well accept living with some uncertainty...
May God, blessed be He, help me strengthen my faith!
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This is the only reassuring thing for me, for now though
http//submission.org/verify_preserving_and_protecting_Quran.html
Blessed be God, the eternal One, Creator of Universe
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Salaam wasi
What I felt is same whatever I still Sunni, Quran Alone, Tanakh-Quran etc.
I simply just muslim, not belong to any religious sects/institutions, practice verses from Tanakh, Zabur/Psalm, Quran.I can also salat in mosques from various sects Sunni, Ahmadiya etc as long as they worship God only.or else i feel that i am being fooled weather this book is really from someone special or being corrupted by human beings &
since all books are corrupted man made written then i also doubt all books are wrong only this one rightI once time, weeks ago started to refute Quran, but quickly God gave me a vision if there is nothing wrong in the Koran, the problem actually is a person who intepreted it.
Corruption is for someone who didn't capable to understand it.Now I simply just muslims, God gave me lesson to me via Torah's Book of Genesis until Quran's surat An-Naas.
I follow Allah Alone not Quran Alone, coz if you follow Quran Alone you won't found any clearness in rituals like GodSubmitter said.Peace
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Lately I am inclined to think that I (we) will never, ever know for sure... (because there is no clear-cut understanding of salat, hajj etc) ...and that we might as well accept living with some uncertainty...
May God, blessed be He, help me strengthen my faith!
hey friend
always follow allah and always use 73 rule...........what ever you do in salat and whatever you understand about hajj is from allah and allah will be your care taker at the period of yuame qiyamat
i have no problem with salat and hajj
and i also know that allah is not the one who takes money from our pockets in the name of so called as HAJJ
i have better and stronger certainty in salat and hajj .....
keep sharing your feelings... it really meant a lot to me group
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Salaamun alayka bro,
I think this happens to everyone at some point in his life, at least to me and it seems also to you.
These moments are very important, now it's time not to loose your patience and have full certainty in Allah.
And everything will become inshaAllah certain for you.salaam,
Benderi also feel that allah can communicate with me... as he communicated with MUSA ...........a chase to get 100 percent confirmation
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Peace brother Earthdom,
Did you receive inspiration? I am very interested of hearing about this since I believe that God guides in real time whom He wishes.
Please use PM if you want to talk about it.
God bless you
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hey friend
always follow allah and always use 73 rule...........what ever you do in salat and whatever you understand about hajj is from allah and allah will be your care taker at the period of yuame qiyamat
i have no problem with salat and hajj
and i also know that allah is not the one who takes money from our pockets in the name of so called as HAJJ
i have better and stronger certainty in salat and hajj .....
keep sharing your feelings... it really meant a lot to me group
Thank you for your answer.
Would you care to share with me your notions and understandings about the Salat and hajj because I am totally confused about the meaning and the way of practicing the Salat after reading so many different interpretations and understandings here on Forum from people who know Arabic, and I don't.
Thank you in advance.Praise to God the Uncreated One
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Thank you for your answer.
Would you care to share with me your notions and understandings about the Salat and hajj because I am totally confused about the meaning and the way of practicing the Salat after reading so many different interpretations and understandings here on Forum from people who know Arabic, and I don't.
Thank you in advance.Praise to God the Uncreated One
again follow strictly the basic rule 73 whatever people are going to say just listen but follow what is the best surely the answer from allah is is always the best
my understanding about salat
basic idea of salat or purpose of salat ?
"I am God, there is no god except Me, so serve Me and hold the Salat for My remembrance." (Qur'an 20 14)?Recite what is inspired to you of the Book and hold the Salat, for the Salat prohibits immorality and evil deeds ; but certainly the remembrance of God is the greatest. God knows everything you do.? (Qur?an 2945)
hold the salat for allah which means hold the remembrance of allah
i have being doing this or holding the remembrance of allah and it is stopping me from IMMORALITY AND EVIL DEEDS
if i hold salat in other language or arabic etc it can never stop me from evil and immorality
as allah knows that we have different languages as per 3022
and i am commaned to do salat in the way which i understand perfectly as per 443procedure
ask your self do you need any procedure for the remembrance of most gracious almighty who is everywhere all knowing
i do salat by standing in the garden , or in the home sitting on a chair
because i know that this quran is the guidance to all human beings weather he has legs ,hands or physically challenged or not he just needs to
avoid evil or immorality because i strictly follow 73timings
i know
FAJR while the sun is rising i should see by my eyes
AND
ISHA evening while the sun is setting
and
salatul wustaa currently waiting till the answer confirmation from allah hmmsalatul jumma
always remember that quran does not contradicts the statements
11114
this aiyat is not fully explained to me by allah i cannot do this
because i dont know the meaning of the word TARAFI what it is ?
but in 11114 i see the timing of fajr and timing of ishasalatul jumma
for me this is not valid prayer because here there is no one like me who can call me for juma
and it is an optional prayer as we need to do we people like me gather togthersalatu wustaa
salatul wustaa if wusstaa really means middle prayer as per 2238
i guard the prayers FAJR AND ISHA and the middle prayer ?
i dont know this middle prayer till allah teaches me
i doubt that this middle prayer could be the middle of every day
or it is defining salatul jumaa
since salatul juma says to leave business at middle of the day because after salat again you to do business
this jumaa is always on a working day and salatul wustaa says middle prayerbut never the less i do salat only for one purpose to remember allah and to avoid immorality
no body is uncertain in this world untill he reaches allah i just get updated in islam like windows update but i am always certain
and my result will be with of allah not on my fore fathers or fathers or people -
Peace brother Earthdom,
Did you receive inspiration? I am very interested of hearing about this since I believe that God guides in real time whom He wishes.
Please use PM if you want to talk about it.
God bless you
Peace to you too Man of Faith, my brother )
Now I simply a submitter, submit the God YHWH, the God of previous phrophets.Practice some religious texts like Tanakh, Zabur/Psalm with Quran as it's parameter.I'm not Quran Alone anymore but YHWH/God alone ) .
I started to became like this, while I get discussion/PM with tauhid101, a free-mind member from Sarawak, Malaysia.He also practice belief like you like pray what Jesus did, get revelation from Book Of Thomas etc.
I can salat in mosques/temples by various sects to worshipp God Alone.Now I get bored/tired for play speculations, but lack of practices/faith.I planned to close my fake facebook account and leave Quranic discussion groups which only make me dizzy, suffer headache in my left brain.
Don't worry I will PM you soon, when the time is right.I more interested in chat n share rather than serious discussion.
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Peace Earthdom,
I am sure of that Earthdom and I am not seeking to discuss but rather for you to share your experiences. You have had similar realizations as I do, but I only tell you to keep it simple as God's Message is. Words do not carry a particularly difficult meaning but why would God make it harder than it already is (for most people)?
If it seems unrighteous what you perceive when you read The Book then it is much wiser to use your intuition of what is right in God's view. God wants someone good, kind and who upholds justice and keeps the bond with God.
Well, you know you always have my thread "Nearness and Guidance" for my simplified view of the Message with as little hocus pocus as possible.
I am accused of conjecture because I drop everything other than the words literal (root) meanings and God's inspiration of the Message and giving such as any more difficult meaning than which means something like communication/connection would have a complicated and intricate meaning other than just communication is weird. I refer to it as Communion myself. And then you know my Arabic is almost at minimum but I do not care because I used logic and not linguistic skill. Except for communication it is about keeping a bond, tie to God.
There are many examples of communication with God in The Book.
I would say do not discard your Communion (traditionally prayer), but make it more than simply parroting meaningless words in quantities. Use the opportunity to implore God about the day ahead or the next or the day that passed. I like Jesus reported speech in Gospel testimonies by his followers where Jesus said not to pray like the Pagans with their many words etc. nope
We can have a dialogue in PM so that we do not further annoy those who add more to the Message.
God bless you
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Ok bro
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Peace Earthdom,
I am sure of that Earthdom and I am not seeking to discuss but rather for you to share your experiences. You have had similar realizations as I do, but I only tell you to keep it simple as God's Message is. Words do not carry a particularly difficult meaning but why would God make it harder than it already is (for most people)?
If it seems unrighteous what you perceive when you read The Book then it is much wiser to use your intuition of what is right in God's view. God wants someone good, kind and who upholds justice and keeps the bond with God.
Well, you know you always have my thread "Nearness and Guidance" for my simplified view of the Message with as little hocus pocus as possible.
I am accused of conjecture because I drop everything other than the words literal (root) meanings and God's inspiration of the Message and giving such as any more difficult meaning than which means something like communication/connection would have a complicated and intricate meaning other than just communication is weird. I refer to it as Communion myself. And then you know my Arabic is almost at minimum but I do not care because I used logic and not linguistic skill. Except for communication it is about keeping a bond, tie to God.
There are many examples of communication with God in The Book.
I would say do not discard your Communion (traditionally prayer), but make it more than simply parroting meaningless words in quantities. Use the opportunity to implore God about the day ahead or the next or the day that passed. I like Jesus reported speech in Gospel testimonies by his followers where Jesus said not to pray like the Pagans with their many words etc. nope
We can have a dialogue in PM so that we do not further annoy those who add more to the Message.
God bless you
If it seems unrighteous what you perceive when you read The Book then it is much wiser to use your intuition of what is right in God's view.
In other words - invent "god". This is what the atheists harp on about . . . and this is how "Quran only" came about. An attempt to impose Western Enlightenment Values on Islam.
In other words . . . whatever "morality" you have perceived away from Islam and it has affected you - then reconcile it with Islam!
I am accused of conjecture because I drop everything other than the words literal (root) meanings
No you are accused of conjecture for making things up - and when questioned . . . being unable to answer.
See - how dishonest the above line is! Giving your self undeserved graces. . .
I refer to it as Communion myself.
There you go . . .did not take you long to conjecture!
And then you know my Arabic is almost at minimum but I do not care because I used logic
Your logic is akin to Arabic - minimum. Else what "logic" skills have you applied?
We can have a dialogue in PM so that we do not further annoy those who add more to the Message.
Because you know full well - your BS does not work . . . more ego problems?
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And peace to you too, The Chimp.
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I trust The Lord.
Peace out
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Peace,
And so you know. Thanks for your opinion.
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Dear brother The_Chimp,
May peace be upon you.
With respect, I fail to see your conduct to be appropriate whenever you post something regarding your disapproval with any member on this forum. Almost every thread that I read, I see that you are always attacking on Man of Faith for no reason. You have shown enough times that you don't agree with Man of Faith's understanding, and that is totally fine as it is your prerogative. We may not agree with someone or something under discussion, but we must talk with respect and with an appropriate tone with each and every member of the forum.
The Quran demands a man of 'qawlan layyinan' (gentle, smooth, soft, delicate, malleable mild speech) - 2044. Therefore, it is advisable that you disregard any attitude which one may not find appreciative and kindly keep your comments/responses civil.
Regards.