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I am God / Allah

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    muslims
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    Just wondering if someone can explain the meaning of the above title from the context of the Quran . . .

    This is my authority for saying "I am God / Allah"

    Say He is Allah, One (112.1)

    What does it mean? Please explain from the Mutasyaabihat to the Muhkamat . . .

    and without violating the above verse (112.1), so as any rules from the Quran.

    Let see the discussion . . . your perspectives

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      diamantinehoneybunch
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      That God is not an Arab.

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        muslims
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        Okay then, the title is "I am God" !

        Say He is God, One (112.1)

        No more issue on the translation.

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          diamantinehoneybunch
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          That God is just one. Not 3 in one or 19 in one.

          Anyways many theists believe that God lives in sky or heaven etc.
          But the Quran is unique because it doesn't teach that God has a beard and lives in sky heaven. Instead, Qur'an says God is omnipresent. So, God is one but everywhere.

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            Jafar
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            Just wondering if someone can explain the meaning of the above title from the context of the Quran . . .

            This is my authority for saying "I am God / Allah"

            Say He is Allah, One (112.1)

            What does it mean? Please explain from the Mutasyaabihat to the Muhkamat . . .

            and without violating the above verse (112.1), so as any rules from the Quran.

            Let see the discussion . . . your perspectives

            You/Me/He/She is a finite being, You/Me/He/She is not God/Allah.

            This relate to "Math notation of God" discussion
            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604861.msg345864#msg345864

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              muslims
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              Nope, it does not explain according to the Quran . . and it violates many rules from the Quran.

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                Man_of_Faith
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                confused

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                  Little_Mannie
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                  I don't understand the question. "Qulhu allahu ahad" I thought just said "Say Allah is one" many other ayat instruct Muhammad and/or believers to say (such and such). I assume this is to make it clear. Allah is referring to Allah's self in the third person for instructional purposes perhaps so as not to give any confusion as to who "I" is referring to. In other words, if Muhammad said and scribed "I", then people would confuse that to mean Muhammad is saying he is Allah. And we have enough problem with that as it is, LOL rotfl

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                    Man_of_Faith
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                    Peace,

                    I don't understand the question. "Qulhu allahu ahad" I thought just said "Say Allah is one" many other ayat instruct Muhammad and/or believers to say (such and such). I assume this is to make it clear. Allah is referring to Allah's self in the third person for instructional purposes perhaps so as not to give any confusion as to who "I" is referring to. In other words, if Muhammad said and scribed "I", then people would confuse that to mean Muhammad is saying he is Allah. And we have enough problem with that as it is, LOL rotfl

                    And that would be against the Message. giveup

                    God bless you

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                      muslims
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                      yes. . . the message, another symbols

                      Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior
                      (334)

                      I guess no one understand . . so let it be.

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                        GODsubmitter
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                        http//2.bp.blogspot.com/-f1lpFdRbdsc/UT0ucMiaVLI/AAAAAAAAACI/oafeetaD53s/s320/god-has-no-religion.jpg

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                          muslims
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                          It must be something outside of the bound and end (brackets)

                          yes . . it is 0 (language)

                          it was not supposed to be 1 +1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 since everything is 1 . . .

                          What do people see, hear and feel when they become "0" ?

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                            muslims
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                            Beautiful . . .

                            http//data3.whicdn.com/images/50954704/amazing-galaxy-stars-universe-Favim.com-621220_large.jpg

                            http//2.bp.blogspot.com/-4ZkVu4NOPs4/Uoc4VItc7AI/AAAAAAAADKA/MGlYt0jo198/s640/Aceleracion_de_plasma___Supernova_medium.gif

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                              Little_Mannie
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                              Peace,

                              And that would be against the Message. giveup

                              God bless you

                              Let me be more specific in clarifying the part you highlighted in red then people would confuse that to mean Muhammad is saying Muhammad is Allah, which neither Muhammad or Allah wanted! That was the type of egregious BS the Pharaohs and other dictators of old used to practice.

                              Or am I still not understanding the question?

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                                muslims
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                                I hope people will not ignore the fact that angels prostrate to Adam, mmm . . . as equals to God?

                                That must carry some weight . . .

                                especially, at the beginning of the story (the main objective of creation) and those who refuse are the disbelievers . . .

                                Facts 1 Is there an ideology of Allah Alone in Islam?

                                And certainly We created you
                                then We fashioned you
                                then We said to the angels
                                Prostrate to Adam
                                So they did prostrate except Iblis
                                he was not of those who prostrated
                                He said What hindered you
                                so that you did not prostrate when I commanded you?
                                He said I am better than he
                                Thou hast created me of fire
                                while him Thou didst create of dust
                                (<a href="http//quran.com/7/11-12">711-12</a&gt

                                Angels prostrate to Allah and Khalif

                                There is no evidence in the Quran
                                that Iblees prostrate to any other than Allah

                                Iblees prostrate to "Allah Alone"

                                Iblees is "Allah Alone"

                                Premise 1 Angels associate Allah with Adam. (Shirk?)
                                Premise 2 Iblees does not associate Allah with Adam.

                                And when your Lord
                                took from the children of Adam
                                from their loins
                                their descendants
                                and made them testify of themselves
                                , "Am I not your Lord?"
                                They said, "Yes, we have testified."

                                • lest you should say on the day of Resurrection
                                  "Indeed, we were of this unaware"
                                  (7172)

                                and.. I wonder where does it say in the Quran that Pharaoh claimed he was God . . . ???

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                                  muslims
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                                  I wonder whether . . . .

                                  1 is . . . or
                                  0 is

                                  and at least we know that there must be "0" . . . because Allah creates from nothing, ie . . 0

                                  Therefore, there is 1 and 0

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                                    Little_Mannie
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                                    I hope people will not ignore the fact that angels prostrate to Adam, mmm . . . as equals to God?

                                    That must carry some weight . . .

                                    especially, at the beginning of the story (the main objective of creation) and those who refuse are the disbelievers . . .

                                    And when your Lord
                                    took from the children of Adam
                                    from their loins
                                    their descendants
                                    and made them testify of themselves
                                    , "Am I not your Lord?"
                                    They said, "Yes, we have testified."

                                    • lest you should say on the day of Resurrection
                                      "Indeed, we were of this unaware"
                                      (7172)

                                    and.. I wonder where does it say in the Quran that Pharaoh claimed he was God . . . ???

                                    Surat Al-Qasas 2838

                                    Pharaoh said, "O commanders, I have
                                    not known of any god for you other than
                                    me. Therefore, O Haman, fire up the
                                    bricks and build me a platform, so
                                    perhaps I may take a look at the god of
                                    Moses! I am certain he is a liar."

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                                      Little_Mannie
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                                      Also noteworthy is 2255

                                      God, there is no god but He, the Living,
                                      the Sustainer. No slumber or sleep
                                      overtakes Him; to Him belongs all that is
                                      in the heavens and in the earth. Who will
                                      intercede with Him except by His leave?
                                      He knows their present and their future,
                                      and they do not have any of His
                                      knowledge except for what He wishes.
                                      His throne encompasses all of the
                                      heavens and the earth and it is easy for
                                      Him to preserve them. He is the High,
                                      the Great.*

                                      So if God is man, then it must be within the other 80% of our brain we don't use lol. At least our connection to Allah. But humans are not omnipresent. Allah is.

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                                        muslims
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                                        So you believe part and reject parts of the Quran?

                                        These are the entirely clear verses (Muhkamat)

                                        Therefore, please explain why the angels are associating Allah with Adam? Shirk?

                                        LOL is not the answer . . . and obviously are not reasoning

                                        They said, "Should we believe two men like ourselves (ie. not god) while their people are for us in servitude?" (23.47)

                                        Pharaoh said, "I do not show you
                                        except what I see
                                        and I do not guide you
                                        except to the way of right conduct"
                                        (4029)

                                        They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah (9.31)

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                                          Little_Mannie
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                                          Easy, dude. Keep in mind, you aren't supposed to be seeking interpretation of the mutashabihat in order to cause division. I simply don't understand what you are getting at. Perhaps because I am too daft? I don't know. But I don't believe in parts reject others, that is a ridiculous accusation especially when you are cherry picking. Come on, do better than that.

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