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Muslim women allowed to marry non-Muslim men?

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    Ikrame
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    I don't know

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      Sonny
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      Yeah i do know maybe you should look it yourself up. You see it happening in middel east country s women being stoned. Under the sharia i probably would be killed peace

      what is your 'crime', adultery?

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        Ikrame
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        Lol no im single i was refering to leaving the sunnism i would be facing death penalty. I gave stoning as an example of cruelty its always women involved probably by gossip i can t imagine a woman who is shitting her pants of fear to dare to practice such an act under sharia law but that just my view

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          JavaLatte
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          what is your 'crime', adultery?

          ( elektro

          Be polite please...

          Peace.

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            Sonny
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            elektro

            Be polite please... )

            Peace.

            I wasnt rude at all, it was a question not an accusation. peace

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              N00B
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              Besides,I'm not implying that ALL Sunnis think that way.

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                Noon_waalqalami
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                Here are the verse about interfaith marriage (using Yusuf Ali translation)

                Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But God beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind That they may celebrate His praise. 2221

                Peace -- address is to same general populace and doesn't say "nor marry your girls"...

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                and not thou marry yeh of the idolaters (f/p) until believe they and surely handmaiden believer (f/s) better from idolatress and in case like her you

                and not thou marry yeh of the idolaters (m/p) until believe they of and manservant (m/s) believer better from idolater and in case like him you

                surely those calling to the fire and the god invites to the garden/paradise and the forgiveness by permission his and makes clear verses/signs his to the humankind that may they those remembering

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                  Existential1
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                  Peace -- address is to same general populace and doesn't say "nor marry your girls"...

                  2221
                  and not thou marry yeh of the idolaters (f/p) until believe they and surely handmaiden believer (f/s) better from idolatress and in case like her you

                  and not thou marry yeh of the idolaters (m/p) until believe they of and manservant (m/s) believer better from idolater and in case like him you

                  surely those calling to the fire and the god invites to the garden/paradise and the forgiveness by permission his and makes clear verses/signs his to the humankind that may they those remembering

                  Is this an example of my lack of knowledge of Arabic biting me in the butt again? Insha'allah man, I'll be reading soon '( I read each of these translations http//corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=2&verse=221 and some corroborate his (brother Noon's) interpretation. That Mohsin Khan version seems to be the most equitable.

                  Typically when people try to argue things are unequal or unjust in the Quran, I feel like it has to be a mistranslation or misreading.

                  peace

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                    huruf
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                    Brother Noon is right, no "marry your girls".

                    There are a lot of mistranslations, which often also come from a reading of the original which is not grounded on the original itself.

                    What we read never falls on a void. It falls on all our previous consciously or unconsciouslly grounded ideas, default conceptions we have of everything.

                    For instance, for those with a default worldview, unsconscious mostly , that the male is the human being per se, everything they read will fall on the assumption that what is said is as a function of the human being, the male.

                    There is a lot of that in the most common understandings of the Qur'an. And no matter what it says or what is intended, any understanding will fall flat on that fact.

                    We still see, no less than years ago, that most film, theater, novel or any fiction production is still full of male parts and that the proportion of female parts is much much shorter. Males are the human beings, women an exception, and accessory at that, for the brilliance of the male.

                    The Qur'an, to get into the minds and instill the love for womanhood, has a very uphill task.

                    Salaam

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                      Peace -- address is to same general populace and doesn't say "nor marry your girls"...

                      2221
                      and not thou marry yeh of the idolaters (f/p) until believe they and surely handmaiden believer (f/s) better from idolatress and in case like her you

                      and not thou marry yeh of the idolaters (m/p) until believe they of and manservant (m/s) believer better from idolater and in case like him you

                      surely those calling to the fire and the god invites to the garden/paradise and the forgiveness by permission his and makes clear verses/signs his to the humankind that may they those remembering

                      So how does it makes a difference in the interpretation of this modification?

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                        Man_of_Faith
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                        Peace,

                        Just so you are observant. If you translate and work on a passage you need to be aware that a word can have a faulty meaning and you may have to cross check is with all occurrences of the word and also parse the literal quality on your testing. That way I have understood problematic passages while studying. And trust me; you cannot put too much faith in dictionaries or translations. And be not too quick in believing your own works too. And if it is not a righteous translation (as in polygamy or cutting of hands or praying birds) then it is probably not true either.

                        I am interested in delving into the alleged polygamy too at some point, but after the salat the mystery about Ramadan is next on my to do list because it affects both you and me more.

                        God bless you

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                          Timotheus
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                          If i ever get to mary i rather mary a non believer than a sunni, who approves killing of women who cheat and killing people who left the sunnism.

                          'sunnis' are idol worshipers, why not marry someone who follows the Quran alone? it clearly condemns terrorism, aggression etc

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                            NewFrenzy
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                            If you want to marry a polythiest commit Zina with him.
                            243

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                              Rilum
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                              Salaam/Peace all,

                              I think Jews and Christians, if they worship only God, are rather also believers.

                              "Unbelievers" would be the persons who do not judge according to what God has sent down.

                              Salaam/Peace all.

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                                reel
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                                Salaam/Peace all,

                                I think Jews and Christians, if they worship only God, are rather also believers.

                                "Unbelievers" would be the persons who do not judge according to what God has sent down.

                                Salaam/Peace all.

                                That's what I concluded also. A current atheist may also be okay if he is actually living according to God's law even without being aware. Apparently, majority of the atheists go back to him especially after marriage or when they start facing life's big responsibilities.

                                Edit Forgot medical conditions. It is unhealthy to panic all the time and that's what you get without God.

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