Religion Islam is based upon falsehood
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Clearly you do not read replies, instead you take a corrupted translation as if it has merit, investigate the ancient Arabic before posting verse references without any effort to understand the original meanings yourself.
Plz enlighten my ignorance by translating the (3 words) passage in question!
I can provide more passages (against ur case) if you wish.
Ps. I do read replies,
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Investigate the meanings on your own, as whatever I say you will ignore as it would not fit in with your preconceived beliefs, it is only through a personal effort you will be able to accept what you discover, however that would take effort on your part, and i have found religious minded people want easy answers, so making effort is seldom invested, or the abilities they have are so poor they have no abilities to investigate in existence to make an effort.
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Allah is a single consciousness as the absolute totality of what may exist, so the One consciousness cannot be independent of anything, all is the thought of the single consciousness; we ourselves are a fractal copy within that consciousness, forming the evolving nature of the matrix of consciousness itself.
A single Consciousness is an ?entirety? of all that is or may be; therefore it is absolutely impossible for an entity deity to exist.
An entity must be something other; but you cannot have something other with the entirety of everything.
And what was there before human consciousness? Before the human being existed at all? And before the earth existed? Where is the sum of consciousness that you refer to? A collective consciousness that could not exist before human beings came to be?
So the universe just came into being without a creator, is that correct? Everything precisely and intricately setup, by accident and out of nothing and nothing from the perspective of nothing?
In any case, enjoy your beliefs.
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Investigate the meanings on your own, as whatever I say you will ignore as it would not fit in with your preconceived beliefs, it is only through a personal effort you will be able to accept what you discover, however that would take effort on your part, and i have found religious minded people want easy answers, so making effort is seldom invested, or the abilities they have are so poor they have no abilities to investigate in existence to make an effort.
My (current) understanding of 374 is
Surely your God is One.
If I'm wrong, then plz correct me, sir!
Ie. Why do you claim/propagate that "there is no god" according to the Quran , when the Quran clearly edifies that there is only one God ?!
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Peace AW,
The universe is a shared perception, it is not in existence independently but perceptually, all is the thought of the single consciousness, you did not read the explanation I posted carefully.
You can argue that the universe is observable from a shared perception, can you prove that it does not exist outside perception? I dont think so.
Our God, Initiator of the heavens and the earth, Knower of the unseen and the seen, You will judge between Your servants regarding what they disputed in.
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@ my brothers and sisters
Please follow the lessons that Allah taught/teaches to you through the Qur'an. Please listen to Allah, and do not follow the fool people (who are not the authorized messengers of God) who could possibly ruin your faith.
Our God, Initiator of the heavens and the earth, Knower of the unseen and the seen, You will judge between Your servants regarding what they disputed in.
Precious words, brother.
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Yes it is proven, quantum examination of the very fundamental state of matter shows it has no matter, it is also influenced by thought, this demonstrates that it is itself thought, thought is intangible, as is matter, yet we perceive this, and we all perceive this in a shared form, this demonstrates that we all share a single consciousness, a fractal conscious form.
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As far as the Quran is concerned, you've got naught but denial.
Why do you claim/propagate that "there is no god" according to the Quran , when the Quran clearly edifies that there is only one God ?!
Plz don't distort the simple and clear message of the Quran, to suit your personal, irrational thoughts!
Let the messenger speak for itself.
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The religious mind is free of reason were their investments of religion are concerned, and so coloured by these investment their mind becomes free of worth, your opinion is unfounded, unreasoned and unworthy of concern hicham9, sadly it is mindless fools that have imposed the nonsense into Islam over the centuries, religion is a toxic and ignorant imposing of mental slavery.
All religions are constructs (fictions) of perception used as masks. The Machiavellian act using the protection of the mask, and it?s the use of masks that?s aberrant. There are many types of religious mask beyond the God psychosis, science can be a religion, State can be a religion, war can be a religion, money can be a religion; even social activities can be turned into masks of religion.
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The religious mind is free of reason were their investments of religion are concerned, and so coloured by these investment their mind becomes free of worth, your opinion is unfounded, unreasoned and unworthy of concern hicham9, sadly it is mindless fools that have imposed the nonsense into Islam over the centuries, religion is a toxic and ignorant imposing of mental slavery.
All religions are constructs (fictions) of perception used as masks. The Machiavellian act using the protection of the mask, and its the use of masks thats aberrant. There are many types of religious mask beyond the God psychosis, science can be a religion, State can be a religion, war can be a religion, money can be a religion; even social activities can be turned into masks of religion.
Perhaps you missed the part where I agreed that 'al-islm' is not a religion! Perhaps you missed the post where i said that talk is cheap?
Bring one single quranic passage teaching atheism, or be my guest and stfu.
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The religious mind is free of reason were their investments of religion are concerned, and so coloured by these investment their mind becomes free of worth, your opinion is unfounded, unreasoned and unworthy of concern hicham9, sadly it is mindless fools that have imposed the nonsense into Islam over the centuries, religion is a toxic and ignorant imposing of mental slavery.
All religions are constructs (fictions) of perception used as masks. The Machiavellian act using the protection of the mask, and it?s the use of masks that?s aberrant. There are many types of religious mask beyond the God psychosis, science can be a religion, State can be a religion, war can be a religion, money can be a religion; even social activities can be turned into masks of religion.
I really wonder what motivates these type of people to start posting on a forum about Islam...
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Hello Abdun Nur,
I would not say that the Bible is that bad. You just have to tear pages out of it and it is okay.
Learn to read it where it matters.
Be safe
Amenuel -
JavaLatte,
My name is Emanuel, I can send you a photocopy of my passport if you like. Henrik is a second name.
And it is for you to decide what the Rabb requires then? You who speak so much about "Allah".
I have given you very intricate details about the Deen of the Rabb, but you reject it all so that is not my problem. I am not forcing you to accept anything either but you can choose yourself. The Rabb does let each one of us take our own personal path. I have chosen Spiritual growth to grow away from being a primate to reach to my full potential of the divine origin. Be my guest to continue to be a primate if you like. I just pity all of you who cannot see.
Be safe
Amenuel (This is not the passport spelling, but I like it better) -
Hello,
There is no deity, no god, no entity. As is your opinion, totally irrelevant, the evidence does not exists to support the jewish/christian bible, not archeologically or scientifically, this being the case your opinion is without any support, while my assertion must be disproven, as i am not the one trying to claim the bible is truth you are.
It depends on what you make of the term "God". According to Quran there is a Sustainer/Foundation-Giver (Rabb) which is the platform of existence. This Foundation is self-aware and works independently as an intelligence and not just any intelligence but is superhuman. We who know a little more refer to a phenomenon called 'Father' because we belong to the same "Family" in unity. The reason why the Father is so superior is because He formed your own Spirit in His "blueprint" and you have the potential to reach full strength to an equal level of Him, but never above since He is the "hardware" of Existence and a software cannot work faster than its hardware (notice that it is allegorically speaking). Our problem is that we are deluded from the Father by our Body and we have to Master our Body to be able to outright feel the Father. The formula is simple; restrain the instinctive drive and become perfect and do not let anything give you any excuses.
Be safe
Amenuel -
I accept that the majority like yourself JavaLatte and runninglikezebras are at a loss, but i post, not very often as the response is so predictable and uninspired, in the forlorn hope that the mind of a few here and there are not so wasted through atrophy from the excessive stagnation of ritual, religion and prayer that they may lift their head from the ignorance and confusion and see reason.
These are my thoughts on the purpose of this short adventure of life, for those whose minds are not atrophied
No expression of virtue and truth more prevalent.
No greater love of any heart, opened wide to experience infinite emotions.
No task that would generate more energy and passion in existence.
No liar?s tongue that could divert, confuse, or manipulate.
No fear that could hold stagnant such a state of mind; a mind that has mastered itself.
Do not yield to conformity.
Do not yield to the defeat of surrender.
Do not yield to any false perceptions.
Death is not the enemy.
Not living is, not living a life in virtue and truth; that is the true enemy, a life of deaths moment endured continuously.
To live fearlessly, shouting every truth out from the very center of your soul, living truth with every breath, every thought, and every action.
To dance upon the Earth unhindered by convention.
To sing out in joy, even in the darkest pit, the foulest prison, the deepest hell, because love cannot be driven from your soul, you are the master of emotion and so in such unity love is your very essence, without conditions or constraints.And few understand virtue, most especially those who are drowning in the cesspit of religion.
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@ Abdun Nur
I don't follow the majority. Majority of humans disobey their Creator. I think they do not honor/exalt the Creator as it should be.
I do not choose to follow/accept "religion" - I don't like to use that word to name my path.
If you think that I follow the belief that popularly known as "the religion of Islam" - then you are wrong about me.
I follow what my Rabb taught/teaches to me. I choose to follow and accept the path which He guided/guides me to it.
Perhaps my Rabb will allow me to know who is lost between us, later in the hereafter, insha'Allah.
I know that you and me cannot get away from the event/time when those who are truthful will be separated from the liars.
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The most important commandment, next to cling unto your Rabb with all your heart and all your soul, is to treat your neighbor as yourself. Most people underestimate that commandment and somehow overlook it. It is often apparent in the tone and treatment of people in general.
The Rabb surely judges between us but we should not take our exclusivity for granted. We have nothing to win by hostility and thought that is supercharged by our instinctive drive. The Mosaic Decree is good advice on how to combat that instinctive drive, i.e. the parameters that are stumbling blocks for us. Many people fail to uphold them, and many Muslims have done away with them. Particularly it is not many people who seek to uphold the "treat your neighbors as yourself", for is every person with a different opinion an enemy? It is surely detrimental to make enemies from right to left; does not grow the Spirit at all. Mr. Jesus/Yesua advised also to treat your enemy as yourself, to care for him or her even if he or she does not love you. It does not help that the sectarian interpretation of Quran has done away with it even if it is mentioned explicitly already in the second chapter, when you can read it properly.
But we all choose where we put our trust, but I trust in what I teach and from what communique I have had with the Rabb. Empathy is the stressing point that we should struggle for, empathy is what the animal Homo Sapiens lacks by its primitive nature when it goes in for its own ego. Having grand empathy is truly amazing. If you can even behave towards your enemy then you have taken a great step towards empathy. The one who has to be hostile towards his/her enemy is not complete in terms of empathy.
The one who can stretch out his/her hand towards his/her worst enemy when this person desperately calls out for help when about to drown is truly there.
The one who can forgive a person who has acted very badly is a strong Spirit.
Be safe
Amenuel