Iblees and Shaytaan the same?
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Do everybody (except Idolfree) agree with my understanding of what is Iblis and what are jinn (Posted Wed Dec 01, 2004 716 pm )?
The word jinn is derived from janna, meaning he covered or concealed or hid or protected.
That's why the jinn are the the leaders ; they are the protectors of the ins (ordinary people). And, on the judgement day, the ins think the jinn will hide/cover (intercede in favour of) them.Peace
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Peace Kyle,
Just draw a .jpeg using mspaint, sign up for free picture hosting at www.villagephotos.com, and upload as described. Then send me the link to your picture.
I know there's a way to host a pic and link to it using the "Img" button, so that the pic will appear in the body of the text, but I'm not sure how to do it.
Peace,
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Peace be upon you Tay,
I'll give it a try. D
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Salut JM,
Do everybody (except Idolfree) agree with my understanding of what is Iblis and what are jinn (Posted Wed Dec 01, 2004 716 pm )?
The word jinn is derived from janna, meaning he covered or concealed or hid or protected.
That's why the jinn are the the leaders ; they are the protectors of the ins (ordinary people). And, on the judgement day, the ins think the jinn will hide/cover (intercede in favour of) them.Peace
I cannot answer your question because I did not follow the whole debate about this subject.
I have a question for you, Does the word "alnnas / Insan / Ins" include all people or a categorry of people in the light of the quran?
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O people, serve your Lord who has created you and those before you that you may be righteous.
Ya ayyuha alnnasu oAAbudoo rabbakumu allathee khalaqakum waallatheenamin qablikum laAAallakum tattaqoona -
And if you cannot do this; and you will not be able to do this; then beware the Fire whose fuel is people and stones, it has been prepared for the rejecters.
Fa-in lam tafAAaloo walan tafAAaloo faittaqooalnnara allatee waqooduha alnnasu waalhijaratu oAAiddat lilkafireena
see also 2143, 165-168
I looked for their occurences
There is 207 items for the word alnnas / unas which is translated as people
There is 78 items for al-insanu / al-ins translated as human285 items for alnnas/al-insanu /al-ins / unas which have the same root and 37 items for the word ?jinn / jannun?
Thanks
Marie
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Peace be upon you Tay,
I tried to draw an image on MS paint, butwfter I tried to loads it to villagephotos, they said it was too big, and I hardly drew anything!
I'll keep trying
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Peace be upon you Tay,
I brought it back up as Jpeg, then hit "save as" and saved it as jpeg, still did not work. Any suggestions? Its really not big at all, a few lines, not much filled in.
I think I will try to take a picture of my screen with a dig camera and see how that works. That won't be until tommorrow though , unless the God wills.
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Salaams JM,
Good of you to share your views on this ,and i am sure others might agree with you , with more research on their part.I had missed reading this before.
Salaam, and Thanks.
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Salaam,
Maybe not but maybe two distinctive behaviours...
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Personally, these quite possibly don't reflect specific people or beings, but rather a person who exhibits these behaviour patterns. Hence, it would make sense when the Quran says that our rebellious side is with us from birth, and it is down to us to control it by submiting to the deen.I came to the conclusion that attributing something evil to someone other than themselves is a particular human characteristic, and it appears the truth really could hurt, it appears we could have been deluded by blaming a mythical being/beings for our own shortcomings.
A few thoughts...
Peace Ash Shuura
Nice post. I am in agreeance with you as well.
I believe it is openly stated that we are the satan/devil/ibiis.
O you who believe do not take protection from any besides yourselves; they will only disrupt you greatly. They wish that you suffer; the hatred appears from their mouths and what their chests hide is greater! We have made clear for you the signs if you comprehend. (311
And if the devil harms you in any way, then seek refuge with God. He is the Hearer, the Knower. (7200)
pz