Yazidi - Comparative to Quran
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Salam,
Can i join the the discussion with questionWhen did his Name changed into satan?
Harmony upon you,
Satan/shaytaan seems to be a definition or title for a certain behavior or being rather than a name. There are many shaytans, so there cannot be one particular Satan it seems. Like many other "religious" terms I find that this one is yet another misunderstood word. You also call people that are devilish Satan in real life in some cases or devil. It is quite synonymous with evil.
What is remaining of Ebless is the question, because it seems that he was given respite, but I also do not think that he is visibly here but more like part of our minds. He has little own control except from like a phenomenon generally called "whispers of Satan". But anyone really devilish is a Satan, which could mean that the spiritual mind contains what is of Satan. I think he is like a virus in our minds and able to spread and contaminate our souls completely if we succumb to our own vain desires and the illusion of this world.
Be whole
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Peace,
Not only does traditional Islam condemn Iblis of being evil-spirited, even before God judged him. The traditional understanding also denies Iblis even being an Angel. Again let's look at the quranic evidence and find out if this understanding withstands quranic scrutiny without involving abrogation.
The traditionalists will cite verses 1649-50 and 234. Their argument is 1649 excludes Iblis to be an Angel because he refused sujud in verse 234. But does it really? 234 does not speak about sujud to God. We find many evidence in Quran Iblis is not refusing sujud to God. In fact in many verses Iblis confirms sujud to Allah is better, confirming Gods authority. The sujud Iblis refused is sujud to Adam, not to God. 1649 tells us Angels are not yastakbirna. In my second post I elaborated why we cant just interprete this root word as simple arrogance without considering entitlement/authority. The word does not intrinsically determine Iblis' refusal of sujud to something created from earth is arrogance or rightful pride. This will only be determined on the Last Day. 1650 tells us Angels do what they are commanded by God. Indeed, we find Iblis refusing a command when instructed to sujud to Adam. But let's look at what truly happens when Iblis refuses this command. Iblis is debased, lowered in rank and cast out of heaven effectively. At this point of exile, there is no Angel called Iblis. The name is no longer mentioned after this event. Iblis stepped away from his Angelic status, lowered himself to provide evidence for God of the ungratefulness of his new creation. There is no contradiction there. Angels obey Gods command, Iblis refused and lost his status. It does not undermine the concept of Angels having free will. It's rather a circular argument to find it in these verses. Angels do have free will, but at a price/Gods just terms.
The next evidence the traditionalists will point at is 1850. They have already concluded Iblis cant be an Angel even though Quran mentions Iblis as one of the Angels. So they have to come up with an alternative explanation. Iblis is a jinn. kna mina l-jini. If this were to imply Iblis equals a Jinn and always has been a Jinn then among the group of Angels some jinn mysteriously mingled with the group of Angels. Would God misaddress him multiple times? Impossible. The words kana mina can equally mean 'to become' or associate Iblis with the jinn. God does not mistake the status of Iblis when He talks to him. Before Iblis' refusal, the word for Angel is used. After Iblis' refusal he's referred to as a Jinn. The only refusal of Iblis to Gods command we find is the sujud to Adam. We can deduce from this, Iblis did not refuse this with the creation of Jinn. As both Iblis and the jinn are created from fire this makes sense. The difference in nature leading to the refusal is clearly present in Iblis' motivation of his refusal to sujud to Adam. This associates Iblis with the jinn, they are alike. Iblis never rejected the jinn, and clearly has a preference for them. They have a natural relation. The traditionalists self-contradict more than they realize. The whole refusal of Iblis is remarkable exactly because he is one of the Angels. An Angel disobeying a command, stepping down and going into exile. If Iblis is a jinn, of which traditionalists claim they have free will, there would be nothing remarkable about his refusal to sujud to Adam whatsoever.
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There is an important aspect to the narrative about Iblis in Quran. It's human instinct to attach the scapegoat label to someone else. Obviously Iblis' ambitions are trying to block the path of the righteous believers. But does this make him our enemy? Are we entitled to judge? Quran tells us many times we shouldn't do that. Even those who are opposing us deserve to be treated with respect and dignity. The only one who is entitled to judge anyone's soul is God. If we label Iblis as evil/bad, what does this say about us? Furthermore one should consider if we are entitled/capable to judge one of Gods angels? We are not capable of doing so. Leave this matter to God, where it belongs. As believers we should be able to withstand the tests we are facing in life. Antagonizing is counter-productive and will only lead to more deviation.
On the Last Day none of us will be able to blame neither Shaytan nor Iblis if we deviated from Gods path. This makes any accusation towards Iblis irrelevant and maybe even part of the deviation intended by the shaytan.
Peace.
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They get offered the same deal as their hadith tells them Muhammed offered the disbelievers. Convert, if you refuse and are christian or jew pay jizya tax. If you fail to accept those terms they will kill you. So yeah, if there are Yazidis fighting for ISIS it must be compulsion. Quran tells us there can be no compulsion in faith.
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Harmony upon you,
Satan/shaytaan seems to be a definition or title for a certain behavior or being rather than a name. There are many shaytans, so there cannot be one particular Satan it seems. Like many other "religious" terms I find that this one is yet another misunderstood word. You also call people that are devilish Satan in real life in some cases or devil. It is quite synonymous with evil.
What is remaining of Ebless is the question, because it seems that he was given respite, but I also do not think that he is visibly here but more like part of our minds. He has little own control except from like a phenomenon generally called "whispers of Satan". But anyone really devilish is a Satan, which could mean that the spiritual mind contains what is of Satan. I think he is like a virus in our minds and able to spread and contaminate our souls completely if we succumb to our own vain desires and the illusion of this world.
Be whole
The same what you wrote is on my mind,i also think that the arabs from old,that compile the ahadiths had a misconcept of shaytan.Some narrow minded People gave satan the opposit form of everything around us.
Most People are eating with the right Hand,so left is devil...Most man are good...a lot of woman are bad and will be in Hell...you know all this hadith-tales.I also think that it is the mind where he get Access to us,i have some verses in mind where it says that we have angels to the left and right,front and back(wrighting/saving angels?)and i think that satan gave a speech of where he will attack us from the right,left,front,back from above and underneth.
Yes,MOF the spiritualmind contains satan,the most dangerous weapon of satan is wispering cause it is your voice in mind,and without guidance from scripture we are lost.
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