Quranic verses 18:60-83.......Plausible Fabrication?
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Peace brother,
I am not saying that it has to do with being "believer", but there is compulsion in not murdering or doing other atrocities. They are told to be stopped.
Bringing shame upon a family in "Qur'anic" sense means to perform real crimes, even if sectarian people wants us to think otherwise.
If he is to be a disbeliever
If you knew me then you would know that the believer vs disbeliever case is an invention according to me.
On a bottom line I can say that without doing any further research on the passages in question it is difficult to say what the real series of events were. It could theoretically be yet another misinterpretation where the son was already bringing shame upon his family.
Anyway, it is good that you look into these passages because I also think that it is not upright to kill a man to ease the shame on a mother and father for their unrighteous son, unless the son was not already indulging in the atrocities. If the traditional story is true that the co-traveler knew the future then it would be another case that the son perhaps "was to" perform atrocities in the future and bring shame upon his parents.
Be of one with God
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Peace Hizbullah,
As believers, we know that the Quran is from ALLAH and both Concise and Comprehensive.
True, therefore if there is a contradiction it is we who misunderstand.
Chapter 18, verse 60 to 83 of the Quran, I find that the story of Musa with an anonymous wise guy, where the prophet followed him and encountered a number of knowledgeable event even to the extent of murdering a young innocent boy, degrade the purity of the Quran?
I do not know how anyone can think of but murdering a young innocent boy and claimed it is the instruction of ALLAH? There are many verses in the Quran that strictly warn of killing innocent lives except due to judicial proceedings. One particular verse which was instructed to the Israelite and since Musa was THE FIRST MESSENGER-PROPHET OF ISRAELITE, than he would surely be aware.
One would also ask a question after reading the said verses , would the ALMIGHTY ALLAH contradict HIS own words?
The wise guy was not bound by our laws!
God bless
peace
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Are you making an assumption? Please prove he is bound by our laws.
Peace hawk99,
Assumption? No.
ALLAH is not short of words. If he is Jibril or Mikaal - , ALLAH will say so. No where in the Quran says that the wise guy is Ruuh or one of the counsellors. Everything about him is human.
We all know, ALLAH spoke direct to Musa.
AQ; 04164 - Of some messengers We have already told thee the story; of others We have not;- and to Musa ALLAH spoke direct;-
So, if there is anything to convey to Musa, ALLAH will speak to him direct or thru inspiration.
The Quran explain itself and the Quran detect by itself if there is any additional unquranic verses. This is the miracle of the Quran.
This means whatever change the people would do to the revealed Quran, whether done deliberately or not will be exposed and corrected as per ALLAH's will.
Further, ALLAH made a promise to protect HIS zikir - .
The Quran is also written in the Preserved Tablet - .
The Preserved Tablet could be somewhere in South Arabia or possibly in the hands of the Saudis. Insha ALLAH, one of these days, hopefully during my lifetime, ALLAH will reveal it.
Peace
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Salam Hizballah,
This verses especially the "the Boy killing" vers make me think like you in the past,that this Story of Musa and his companion had to be thought and compared with similiar verses.
And i came to the conclusion that it is not a "earthlyhappened" Scene where you can put the message 11 in our realm of space and time,maybe it is a Vision or dream of Musa.
The First indication is the Fish coming back to life and disappeared in to the Ocean going on with the diasappearing of "Musa's Young Companion" and the Meeting of "Musa's Wise Companion" and so on.
I have noticed some cross-comparisons with Musa's life (particularly the Boy killing Scene) and this Story but that is my opinion.
stay connected
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Peace Hizbullah,
So your contradiction/misunderstanding remains )
Abraham's guests 51/24-51/31 told him about the future and also visited Lot and told him of the future 15/61.
Mary had a visitor also And she took, in seclusion from them, a screen. Then We sent to her Our Angel,
and he represented himself to her as a well-proportioned man.My answer fits your dilemma
The wise guy was not bound by our laws!
Salam Hizballah,
And i came to the conclusion that it is not a "earthlyhappened" Scene where you can put the message 11 in our realm of space and time,maybe it is a Vision or dream of Musa.
The First indication is the Fish coming back to life and disappeared in to the Ocean going on with the diasappearing of "Musa's Young Companion" and the Meeting of "Musa's Wise Companion" and so on.
The possibility of it all being a dream is interesting and plausible, I overlooked that possibility, thanks
God bless
peace
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Salam Hizballah,
This verses especially the "the Boy killing" vers make me think like you in the past,that this Story of Musa and his companion had to be thought and compared with similiar verses.
And i came to the conclusion that it is not a "earthlyhappened" Scene where you can put the message 11 in our realm of space and time,maybe it is a Vision or dream of Musa.
The First indication is the Fish coming back to life and disappeared in to the Ocean going on with the diasappearing of "Musa's Young Companion" and the Meeting of "Musa's Wise Companion" and so on.
I have noticed some cross-comparisons with Musa's life (particularly the Boy killing Scene) and this Story but that is my opinion.
stay connected
Salam si di
Thank you for your interesting opinion.
It was my first taught. But, no offence brother, no where in the verses says that Musa was in a dream. I might have overlook but if you can provide me explanation from the Quran, it will be better. The starting point of the verse mention below,
AQ;1860 - And when Moses said to his servant, "I will not cease until I reach the junction of the two seas or continue for a long period."
it seems that Musa was very free, like as though, there is no other responsibility. The Quran Chapters 7, 11, 20, 28, you will find the stories pertaining Musa, a busy man. He had great responsibilities. His job was to release his people from bondage and so on so forth. With his responsibilities, he will have no time to carry out his adventure at all!
Salam
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So your contradiction/misunderstanding remains
Abraham's guests 51/24-51/31 told him about the future and also visited Lot and told him of the future 15/61.
Mary had a visitor also And she took, in seclusion from them, a screen. Then We sent to her Our Angel,
and he represented himself to her as a well-proportioned man.Correction. I did not make any contradiction and so is my ALLAH D
Prophet Abraham and Maryam guests were the two Ruuh sent by ALLAH. They were also messengers conveying the massage of ALLAH. Two different things. No innocent people were killed. Those that were destroyed were transgressors and before that happened they were already warned.
My answer fits your dilemma
No, it only shows that your understanding of the intricacies of the Quranic system is ZERO!
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Plausible Fabrication?
Those verses if understood correctly has the answers for you too. Think we are like Musa deciding on good or bad based on our limited knowledge. )
What are the answers.
I do not about you, but I am nothing like Musa. He is a prophet of ALLAH, a leader, he was given a Book that explain everything. What further explanation does he need. )
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Salamun Alaikum.
Many in the forum have briefly touched base on how the story relates to divine wisdom. For the benefit of those who still don?t get it, let me try to elaborate a bit.
The story of Moses and the Servant of Allah is ? per my humble understanding an allegorical story. It illustrates that - with the firm knowledge of future, the followings becomes invalid ? human rationality, human morality and human judgment.
In the beginning Moses is travelling in search for the junction of two seas (allegorically the point where human wisdom meets divine wisdom). He is travelling with a young boy who is eager to "explain away" everything. When they lost the fish the boy concludes this stange incident happened only due to trick of "Shaitan". Moses seems to agree and like many other mishaps in our life was happy to blame it on the devil. Then when Moses thought that's the answer to his query and was about to retreat - he meets the Servant of Allah.
In the story, the character ?Moses? symbolizes the height of Human Wisdom and Curiosity ? while the Servant of Allah symbolizes an agent of Allah who is executing command of Allah based on the knowledge of Allah.
The Sevant of Allah takes Moses through a series of experiences.
- The incident of putting holes in the ship shows divine wisdom is beyond human rationality
- The incident of killing the young man shows divine decision is beyond human morality
- The incident of constructing the wall without payment shows destiny operates beyond human judgement
The "moral" of the story is ? even the wisest of men would inevitably fail if he tries to evaluate the commands of Allah based on human rationality, human morality and human judgment. That?s why we should resist the temptation to question Allah?s decisions ? why did the children die ? why did this accident happen ? why is life treating me unfairly ? true wisdom lies in patience (Sabr) and appreciation (Shukr).
May Allah guide us all to the straight route.
Regards,
Arman -
Salamun Alaikum.
Many in the forum have briefly touched base on how the story relates to divine wisdom. For the benefit of those who still don?t get it, let me try to elaborate a bit.
The story of Moses and the Servant of Allah is ? per my humble understanding an allegorical story. It illustrates that - with the firm knowledge of future, the followings becomes invalid ? human rationality, human morality and human judgment.
In the beginning Moses is travelling in search for the junction of two seas (allegorically the point where human wisdom meets divine wisdom). He is travelling with a young boy who is eager to "explain away" everything. When they lost the fish the boy concludes this stange incident happened only due to trick of "Shaitan". Moses seems to agree and like many other mishaps in our life was happy to blame it on the devil. Then when Moses thought that's the answer to his query and was about to retreat - he meets the Servant of Allah.
In the story, the character ?Moses? symbolizes the height of Human Wisdom and Curiosity ? while the Servant of Allah symbolizes an agent of Allah who is executing command of Allah based on the knowledge of Allah.
The Sevant of Allah takes Moses through a series of experiences.
- The incident of putting holes in the ship shows divine wisdom is beyond human rationality
- The incident of killing the young man shows divine decision is beyond human morality
- The incident of constructing the wall without payment shows destiny operates beyond human judgement
The "moral" of the story is ? even the wisest of men would inevitably fail if he tries to evaluate the commands of Allah based on human rationality, human morality and human judgment. That?s why we should resist the temptation to question Allah?s decisions ? why did the children die ? why did this accident happen ? why is life treating me unfairly ? true wisdom lies in patience (Sabr) and appreciation (Shukr).
May Allah guide us all to the straight route.
Regards,
Armanbravo
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I agree with you Arman.
Spot on.God gives examples and allegories so we learn and heed His message.
We can question all we like, even GOD s judgements on past generation, but our knowledge is minute compared to GOD s !!!!
Abraham questioned GOD about Lot s people?What did God say to him?
Also the command of" do not kill "" comes with an exception "when justice is required".
GOD is always just.
GOD bless
Peace -
Peace upon you
Here is an article which uses quranic verses to explain who was the teacher who accompagnied Moses http//www.quran-islam.org/articles/teacher_of_moses_%28P1175%29.html. It provides revelant answers to some of the questions asked by Hizbullah.
I have found it very intersting. Please, read it.
May God guide all of us.
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Peace upon you
Here is an article which uses quranic verses to explain who was the teacher who accompagnied Moses http//www.quran-islam.org/articles/teacher_of_moses_%28P1175%29.html. It provides revelant answers to some of the questions asked by Hizbullah.
I have found it very intersting. Please, read it.
May God guide all of us.
Thank you Abdoul, it seems the article and I are in agreement.
Peace Hizbullah,
The wise guy was not bound by our laws!
Peace Hizbullah,
Abraham's guests 51/24-51/31 told him about the future and also visited Lot and told him of the future 15/61.
Mary had a visitor also And she took, in seclusion from them, a screen. Then We sent to her Our Angel,
and he represented himself to her as a well-proportioned man.My answer fits your dilemma
The possibility of it all being a dream is interesting and plausible, I overlooked that possibility, thanks
My conclusion is based on the fact that an innocent boy was killed by God's servant, and that of all of
the intricacies of life that would have to occur in order for those boys to find their treasure in the future.-
They both would live to that point.
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They would be in the area of the wall at the appointed time.
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The wall would not be destroyed to the point of revealing where the treasure was.
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Moses is the prophet, but God's servant knows some of the future and is teaching Moses wisdom!
Therefore the question becomes, "if he is human, why is he not the prophet/messenger?"
peace
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Salam Abdoul,
Thank you for the link, however, there are still somethings missing. This is my humble explanation.....
- First off, THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS ALLEGORY IN THE QURAN. ALLAH sent down a great manifestation, the Quran, explain HIS decrees, and reveal HIMSELF through HIS own words and wisdom. There are many verses in the Quran with explicit explanation...
These are the verses of the Book and a MANIFEST Qur'an.
And We certainly know that they say, "It is only a human being who teaches the Prophet." The tongue of the one they refer to is outlandish, and this is a MANIFEST eloquent tongue.
The Trustworthy Spirit has brought it down. Upon your heart, that you may be of the warners. In a MANIFEST eloquent tongue.
And We have not taught him poetry, nor is it meet for him. This is no less than a Reminder and a MANIFEST Qur'an.
Ask yourself, why should ALLAH sent down a Book which is to provide guidance to mankind in a form of allegory??? So that we could all guess, follow our own desire and translate the verses base on our own agenda???
- ALLAH never commits wrong doing or injustice to anyone even to an atom weight.
Indeed, ALLAH does not do injustice, as much as an atom's weight; while if there is a good deed, HE multiplies it and gives from HIMSELF a great reward. 0440
The above is an explicit explanation about ALLAH HIMSELF, HIS PRINCIPLE, HIS DECREE.
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...But if good comes to them, they say, "This is from ALLAH"; and if evil befalls them, they say, "This is from you." Say, "All are from ALLAH." So what is with those people that they can hardly understand any statement? 0478
ALL THINGS COME FROM ALLAH. The verse below elaborate further...
What comes to you of GOOD is from ALLAH, but what comes to you of EVIL, is from yourself. And We have sent you, , to the people as a messenger, and sufficient is ALLAH as Witness. 0479
ALL GOOD AND BAD THINGS COMES FROM ALLAH TO OUR OWN INTENTIONS, with the approval of ALLAH. We are given the faculties of intelligence, hearing and sight. We are supposed to know what is good and what is bad!
"And whatever of misfortune befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned. And He pardons much".
The prophet Musa, accidentally killed a man from the people of Fir3aun. Let see what he has to say after the incident...
And he entered the city at a time of inattention by its people and found therein two men fighting one from his faction and one from among his enemy. And the one from his faction called for help to him against the one from his enemy, so Moses struck him and killed him. said, "THIS IS FROM WORK OF SHAITAN. INDEED, HE IS AN ENEMEY, ONE WHO MISLEADS, MANIFEST."
So the prophet Musa said that killing a man is the work of shaitan but the wise guy killed an innocent boy and said that it is the work of ALLAH???
Recently in Palestine, more than 2000 people were killed due to the Jewish aggression. Out of the 2000 or so death, more than 500 were children. Go and tell the families of these Palestinian children that they deserve to die because if they live, they will be future HAMAS, criminals, terrorists, gangsters, and that they will destroy the State of Israel. And also tell their families
?The incident of killing the children shows divine decision is beyond human morality?
And if Allah were to impose blame on the people for their wrongdoing, He would not have left upon the earth any creature, but He defers them for a specified term. And when their term has come, they will not remain behind an hour, nor will they precede . 1661
And if Allah were to impose blame on the people for what they have earned, He would not leave upon the earth any creature. But He defers them for a specified term. And when their time comes, then indeed Allah has ever been, of His servants, Seeing.
The above verses simply mean that the All Merciful ALLAH will not destroy an individual or a community as a whole, just for the sake of destroying. Only when the people rejected the message that their messengers brought to them than they will be annihilate. There will be no one to stop ALLAH. Further, ALLAH judges them justly as per the verse below.
And not would your Lord destroy the cities unjustly, if its members were likely to mend.
One would ask a question why ALLAH did not sent the wise guy to Fir3oun when he was a baby, one of the most notorious individual ever live in this world. He was a big problem to the Israelites. The Quran -
Indeed, Pharaoh exalted himself in the land and made its people into factions, oppressing a section among them, slaughtering their sons and keeping their females alive. Indeed, he was of the corrupters.
And yet even knowing what he had done, the All Merciful ALLAH, sent Musa to convey the massage...
Go, both of you, to Fir3aun. Indeed, he has transgressed. And SPEAK TO HIM WITH GENTLE SPEECH that perhaps he may be reminded or fear.?
A GENTLE REMINDER was sent to Fir3aun so that he could ponder over the message given by the messengers of ALLAH. Perhaps he will repent.
- ALLAH will never destroy anyone or community just for the sake of destroying
Indeed, ALLAH does not wrong the people at all, but it is the people who wrong themselves. 1044.
And for every nation is a messenger. SO WHEN THEIR MESSENGER COMES, IT WILL BE JUDGE BETWEEN THEM IN JUSTICE, and they will not be wronged. 1047
After the messengers conveyed the message of ALLAH. And if the people reject than will the wrath of ALLAH comes on them. One would also ask what iniquity has the boy done that he was not given the chance to live in this world? ALLAH says in the HIS Quran?
Nor was thy Lord the one to destroy a population until He had sent to its centre a messenger, rehearsing to them Our verses; nor are We going to destroy a population except when its members practice iniquity.
What has the boy done that he was brutally executed? Where is the justification?
A good example was the son of Nuh. Nuh was a Messenger-Prophet of ALLAH conveying the massage of ALLAH to his people. The son of Nuh was given the opportunity and saw manifest sign of ALLAH and yet he disobeyed. As such, he becomes one of those losers who drowned in the flood.
And Noah called to his Lord and said, "My Lord, indeed my son is of my family; and indeed, Your promise is true; and You are the most JUST OF JUDGES!"
HE said, "O Noah, indeed he is not of your family; indeed, he is work was other than righteous, so ask ME not for that about which you have no knowledge. I advise you, lest you be among the ignorant."
The son of Nuh, had done unrighteous work and ALLAH knows him better than his own father. ALLAH decreed that the son of Nuh had to go. No questions ask!
Furthermore, only after given respite, thereafter ALLAH punish those who transgressed!
If they treat thy (mission) as false, so did the Peoples before them (with their Prophets), the People of Noah, and Ad and Thamud. Those of Abraham and Lut; and the Companions of the Madyan people; and Moses was rejected. BUT I GRANTED RESPITE TO THE UNBELIEVERS AND (ONLY) AFTER THAT DID I PUNISH THEM but how (terrible) was My rejection (of them)! How many populations have We destroyed, which were given to wrong-doing! They tumbled down on their roofs. And how many wells are lying idle and neglected, and castles lofty and well-built? (2242-45)
- On a contrary, ALLAH will test mankind. This is where patience and perseverance comes in. We cannot question what has been decreed by the LORD.
And We will surely test you with something of fear and hunger and a loss of wealth and lives and fruits, but give good tidings to the patient,
Who, when disaster strikes them, say, "Indeed we belong to ALLAH, and indeed to HIM we will return."
ALLAH did not make this world a permanent world. This is a temporary world and everything here has a time limit. When its times come it will come to an end and finish. Neither the good things of this world are forever, or the bad things eternal. We are here for a short time and we are being tested. Those who will pass this test will find an eternal world that is perfect and permanent. Those who will fail this test shall see the evil consequences of their sins and corruption. We find sickness, old age and death. There are storms, earthquakes, floods, draught and famine. There are suffering for individuals and there are those that involve a large number of people.
- Last but not least, the wise guy was human!!!
So they set out, until when they came to the people of a town, they asked its people for FOOD, but they refused to offer them hospitality?.
If the wise guy was a heavenly messenger, he would not need food. The above verse shows clearly that Musa, a prophet following some Tom, Dick or Harry in pursuit of knowledge. Was it not that Musa was taught directly from ALLAH? Was it not that Musa was given a Book that explains everything? Was Musa a Sunni or Shiite OR whatever? Following the words of man rather than the words of ALLAH?
1860-83 are nothing more than tales from the Epic of Gilgamesh!
And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke , Satan threw into it . But ALLAH abolishes that which Satan throws in; then ALLAH makes precise His verses. And ALLAH is Knowing and Wise.
That is, HE may make what Satan throws in a trial for those within whose hearts is disease and those hard of heart. And indeed, the wrongdoers are in extreme dissension.
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First off, THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS ALLEGORY IN THE QURAN. ALLAH sent down a great manifestation, the Quran, explain HIS decrees, and reveal HIMSELF through HIS own words and wisdom. There are many verses in the Quran with explicit explanation...
Seriously?
37 It is He who sent down the book on you. In it there are authoritative signs ? they are the leads of the book; and others are allegorical. Then as for those - in their hearts there is deflection ? so they follow whatever is allegorical of it ? seeking provocation and seeking its interpretation; But none knows its interpretation except Allah - and those deeply-rooted in knowledge ? they say, ?We have faith in it, everything is from near our Master? - but none rethinks except the men of discretion.
(My personal translation, cross checking is recommended.)
A manifest Qur?an does not mean no allegory. Allegories can be manifest for those who have the eyes to read them correctly.
Ask yourself, why should ALLAH sent down a Book which is to provide guidance to mankind in a form of allegory??? So that we could all guess, follow our own desire and translate the verses base on our own agenda???
Why not ask the Qur?an?
226 Indeed Allah is not embarrassed to set forth an example of even a mosquito or something above it ? then as for those who have faith, so they know that is the truth from their Master, and as for those who repress (faith) so they say ?What does Allah intend by this example?? He deviates many with it and guides many with it, but He does not deviate with it anyone except the willfully disobedient .
(My personal translation, cross checking is recommended.)
So the prophet Musa said that killing a man is the work of shaitan but the wise guy killed an innocent boy and said that it is the work of ALLAH???
This is all the more reason to understand that this whole story is allegorical.
Recently in Palestine, more than 2000 people were killed due to the Jewish aggression. Out of the 2000 or so death, more than 500 were children. Go and tell the families of these Palestinian children that they deserve to die because if they live, they will be future HAMAS, criminals, terrorists, gangsters, and that they will destroy the State of Israel. And also tell their families
?The incident of killing the children shows divine decision is beyond human morality?
Absolutely wrong way of taking the lesson from an allegorical story. What applied for the boy killed by the slave of Allah ? does not literally apply for the children killed in Palestine. What applies is the general principle of the story ? the true reason of God?s decision about life and death is beyond our understanding. Allah owns the life of each one of us ? He gave it to us and it is He who will take it back as and when He dims it appropriate. We can neither challenge Allah?s ruling, nor can we change it.
If you want to pacify a mourning parent of a dead child ? you can do so with this very story that you are trying to refute. You can say, look when Moses and his young companion thought the fish going back to the sea they only saw the negative side of it ? they thought it was an act of devil. But if you see from the perspective of the fish ? perhaps it was a blessing that it returned to its home. Perhaps it is a blessing in disguise for your child that he/she returned to his/her home to Allah.
We have to stand up for justice in human society but we will be fool to judge Allah?s will.One would ask a question why ALLAH did not sent the wise guy to Fir3oun when he was a baby, one of the most notorious individual ever live in this world. He was a big problem to the Israelites.
NO! One should NOT ASK why Allah did this or that. That is the very essence of the story.
If the wise guy was a heavenly messenger, he would not need food.
There you nailed it! BTW did you not notice the wise guy also did not have wings ? in twos, and threes and fours ? like the angels are supposed to have? Just like the talking animals of Eshope's fables. How silly right? yay
1860-83 are nothing more than tales from the Epic of Gilgamesh!
For those who do not have the eye to read the writing between the lines and brain to distinguish guidance from non-sense ? the entire Qur?an may seem like the Epic of Gilgamesh!
May Allah guide us all to the straight route.
Regards,
Arman -
- First off, THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS ALLEGORY IN THE QURAN.
That is just plain wrong. The Qur'an itself says it contains two kinds of Verses, Muhkamaat (Clear and foundational) as well as Mutashabbihaat (allegorical or ambiguous in meaning).
So the Qur'an says to hold on to the "Rope of Allah". Is there a literal Rope dangling from the sky that all of us must find and hold on to?
Obviously it is a metaphor. The Rope of Allah is the Qur'an. It is not a literal rope!
Now as for the story about Moses and the "Wise Man". Actually, the "Wise Man" was a Prophet, and his name was Khidr.
Another possibility is that Khidr was an Angel, but Allah knows best.
The story itself as mentioned in the Qur'an contains much allegory. For example, Moses was trying to reach the junction of two seas. A sea represents vastness of knowledge. This is one of the meanings of the root B-H-R "Ocean, sea, great river, great expanse of water, lake; generous person; great knowledge" (Arabic-English Dictionary of Qur'anic Usage, P. 77)
The junction of two seas therefore symbolizes Khidr, a man who combines in him abundance of two kinds of knowledge. One of those seas of knowledge is the knowledge of interpretation, the esoteric or mystic knowledge.
Now if you are a Sunni Muslim and follow the Hadith as I do, this is no problem. A Hadith says that every verse of the Qur'an has both a literal and a hidden meaning. So the literal meaning is a place where two seas of water meet, while the inner meaning is a generous person who combines in himself two types of great knowledge.
So the point is, in order to truly understand and penetrate the hidden knowledge of the Qur'an, you have to learn about the Sunnah, or the Hikmah (Wisdom) which is necessary to explain the allegories of the Qur'an.
If you reject the Sunnah and Hadith, as well as the traditional knowledge of Islamic dream interpretation, mysticism and Sufism, you will be confused and end up denying verses of the Qur'an, as the OP has done!
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Chapter 18, verse 60 to 83 of the Quran, I find that the story of Musa with an anonymous ?wise? guy, where the prophet followed him and encountered a number of ?knowledgeable event? even to the extent of murdering a young innocent boy, degrade the purity of the Quran?
I do not know how anyone can think of but murdering a young innocent boy and claimed it is the instruction of ALLAH? There are many verses in the Quran that strictly warn of killing innocent lives except due to judicial proceedings. One particular verse which was instructed to the Israelite and since Musa was THE FIRST MESSENGER-PROPHET OF ISRAELITE, than he would surely be aware.
How do you know for certain that the youth who was killed was innocent? Does the God says that the youth was innocent? The Quran informs us that Moses thought that the youth was innocent (see verse 1874 in the Quran). But Moses was not all-knowing. There is a difference between knowing that someone is innocent and guessing that someone is innocent. For all we know, the youth might have been a tyrant or a slavemaster. The Quran informs us that the youth was a transgressor and a kafir (a truth concealer/ungrateful).
Quran 1880 "And as for the youth, his parents were believers, so we were concerned that he would oppress them by his transgression and disbelief."
Quran 6151 Say "Come let me recite what your Lord has made unlawful for you that you should not set up anything with Him; and do good to your parents; and do not kill your children for fear of poverty, We provide for you and for them; and do not come near lewdness, what is evident of it and what is subtle; and do not take the life which God has made forbidden, except in justice. That is what He enjoined you that you may comprehend."