Women are the problem in society
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This is answering reels Reply 54
I think YOU are a pawn, of the easy trick of setting up people between two extremes and being obliged to side with one of them, you fall for it like a ton of bricks and you refuse to acknowledge that your feminism, the one you say their is in your country may be so like you say or may be there is another feminism that you refuse to acknowledge because you have already made up your mind that feminism is the devil.
I do not live in the United states so I am not going to discuss what the feminism there is, but you are pretty daring saying that the feminism you know is all there is. Just acknowledge that that is all the feminism you know and do not stretch it. Seeing your onesidedness I do not even believe that there is no other feminism in the United States but the one you depict.
On the other hand I wonder a lot in your tirade about the feminist devil that you feel so much compassion for
"What about those men who have become victims of fake love and are now paying child support?"
But you do not seem to give a shit for the child. Children do not live off air. And if you do a job to a girl it is no mistery that a child may issue. I am sure it is much worse for the mother than for him. And whether he likes it or not or whether it destroys his life or not HE DID CAUSE IT. For sure it was not the holy spirit. And for sure nobody raped him. I do not wish him any evil, but I certainly worry more about the child than about him.
But what do I say! men are always the victims of some bitch, what else. They were forced into it. He must have been forced, of course, because he would never do that by himself. And my God, what a crime? to pay child support for his own child! Can anybody thin of anything crueller?
I am an old women and I have seen plenty of everything. But in the worst times in Spain nobody would have ever thought that the father of a child paying for the child subsistence would have been out of place. But I am starting to think that in fact your are right, it is outrageous, on top of him giving a good time to the girl he must pay for the child... Where is this world going!
And the Qur'an of course forbids that, that a father whould pay for his child, of course is wrong, it is very much forbidden in the Qur'an isn't it.
And Yusuf, prophet Yusuf must have been an idiot, he should have taken the opportunity of being seduced and then refused to pay for the child also, that would have been the right thing for him to do, right?
Yes, for sure, I am an idiot pawn who doesn't know a thing even the simplest of all that everything is always the woman's fault. It is so simple! How is it that I do not see it? It must be the pawn thing that makes me not see the obvious. And really what a pity! Poor boy, first raped and then paying child support for his own child! Can anybody think of anything more wicked?
Salaam
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This single sentence sums up the whole thread. Male Chauvinism or Feminism, Sunniism or Shiaism, Christianity or Islam - the same "divides" over and over again in various contexts.
And that ladies and gents is the problem -- DIVISION where division should not exist! We waste time dividing males and females for no reason. I tell you, the real culprits want it that way. They want arguments, debates, struggles and wars for division! Keeping the masses busy in these needless vanities, the real devils enjoy the petty, quantitative benefits that come from such events. Keeping us struggling against each other, keeps us from working against these demons and allows them to get away!
Division aught to be struck between us, and these few human devils with fire and dollar signs for eyes, who see niches of profit and amusement.
The West keeps trying to strip a woman from clothing and call it giving them "rights". The East goes to the other extreme in the guise of treating a woman like a queen and makes sure that a woman cannot be differentiated from a ninja... the most that can be said is that there's a black structure walking down the street!
These extremes ARE the PROBLEM! taking sides with either sex will never bring about a solution. Right perspective and balance is the key.
It should never be men vs women or women vs men...It should be about BOTH versus ego-maniacal, wordly gain seeking bastards.
I am taking sides for both sexes as the Qur'an explicits.
Salaam
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I think you missed a point in what reel meant and that not about any error in paying for childcare but for the sinister motive of causing this to gain a source of income for own pleasures.
Be of one with God
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I think you missed a point in what reel meant and that not about any error in paying for childcare but for the sinister motive of causing this to gain a source of income for own pleasures.
Be of one with God
What do they give for child supp0ort in the united States thousandos of dollars or what? because the amounts usually are not preisaly to live like princes. Frankly the whole thing sound ludicrous, but anything goes when one wants to enjoy the great pleasure of speaking evil, and the nicest evil to seak of seems to continue to be to speak evil of women. Nothing changed since when the Qur'an was revealed.
I recommend reading ayas 11 to 26 of sura An nur 24.
And again, was he raped or what? For God's sake.
Salaam
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Well, people speak evil of a lot of things, male or female, black or white. Not something fixated on women. The weaker or odd target as possible the better.
Be of one with God
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We could make a context of singing old tunes and see which one wins
Everything is the fault of women versus everything is the fault of muslims
I think the "everything is the fault of women" would win, because it is sung in every country whereas I suppose, everything is the fault of muslims might be still not so much liked in "muslims" countries.
But the winner, the real winner of all these contexts is guilt. Getting the guilty one seems to be the overriding need of any discussion. That seems to be the great reward ot it I guess.
Salaam
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You truly truly didn't get the point. The secret society consists of only few. Rockefeller has connection to Rothschild who has successfully entered almost in all European countries. They also have a house and elite relatives in Spain through marriage. By the way, society of Spain is not so different from the American one.
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I will dismiss my discussion with you for now. You need to learn about the matrix you are in. Otherwise, you won't understand what I am talking about.
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The debate I'm having is that I have been told that if women don't give it away then men won't take it, I agree with this however I don't think it gives men the excuse of oh she dressed like that so I looked which means it's not their fault, no sin on them basically. This argument is backed up by the fact that god created men to lust after women and have no control over their desires, this video is in support of this idea.
https//m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Po9UBrIxAc
Please share your views
Hello Cloudylemonade
They are equally roused perhaps women even more than men. What turns people on is subjective e.g. beaches in Caribbean where girls and women go topless or in Turkey with topless European women next to others wearing bikinis with tops and other women wearing fully covered swim suits. Thus it depends on people?s attitudes formed by culture and suggestive thoughts often subliminal.
2430 say to the believers lower they of from vision theirs and that safeguarded they of intimate parts theirs such virtuous for them surely the god aware in what thou doing
2431 and say to the believers (f/p) should lower from gaze theirs and that safeguarded they (f/p) intimate parts theirs (f/p) and not display adornment theirs (f/p) except what cognizance from it and to strikes they (f/p) with cover theirs over bosoms theirs and not display adornment theirs (f/p) except to husbands theirs or fathers theirs or fathers husbands theirs or sons theirs (f/p) or sons husbands theirs or brothers theirs or sons brothers theirs or sons sisters theirs (f/p) or womenfolk theirs (i.e. female relatives) or what possess right hands theirs (f/p) or the followers/walkers behind other than ones the desire from the menfolk or the young the ones not cognizant they of on private the womenfolk and not strikes they (f/p) with feet theirs to make evident what conceal from adornment theirs (f/p) and turn ye of to the god all of you the believing that may you succeeding
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reel, I know all about the matrix and probably much before you were born, and I know all your sources and catechisms, so please don't parade your cleverness and assume that everybody who does not agree with you is an idiot.
The fact is that there are a bunch of ideologues that take some truths and shake them well with the usual womanhood hate crap and sell that as something revolutionnary and shockingly "revealing".
You are first a believer in that mixture and only much after comes the Qur'an if at all. You have yet not defended anything at all based on the qur'an instead of on the antifeminine crap.
At any rate about those poor boys condemned to pay alimony, no, sorry, support for their children, the mothers of those chidlren must by now possess big properties in the Riviera or Florida or Tahiti with all that child support, the way to become rich in no time, much much better than prostitution, aren't they evil.
That your country is going down the drain like so many countries of course it the fault of femnism, that is women, bad women, whereas good women are like you, perfect. It is the bad women who follow the devil, who let themselves be temppted by the serpent who9 are to blame for everything. One should not listen to women
becaus they do not have a mind capable of sound reasoning. Only the Virgin is to be trusted who by her virginity vanquished the serpent, waw...Congratulations the matrix-cum-sinner Eve has really managed to teach you all, even about Spain. My! you do cover ground.
You are right, do not let the Qur'an interfere with any of that. And you are right, there are good reasons to lame women for anything, There are big treaties onn that from every age of humanity, must be true.
Salaam
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Please behave, huruf
Be of one with God
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reel, I know all about the matrix and probably much before you were born, and I know all your sources and catechisms, so please don't parade your cleverness and assume that everybody who does not agree with you is an idiot.
Its not cleverness, but awareness. Looks like everyone got it except you and that's what we were pointing out.
Question If you know so much why are you defending today's feminism?The fact is that there are a bunch of ideologues that take some truths and shake them well with the usual womanhood hate crap and sell that as something revolutionnary and shockingly "revealing".
Last time I saw feminists hating women.
Headline Jane Caro compares housewives to prostitutes on ABC?s Q&A program
source http//www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/jane-caro-compares-housewives-to-prostitutes-on-abcs-qa-program/story-e6frfmyi-1227044623648
Headline I was ambushed by the Twitterati feminists who in actual fact HATE women
source http//www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480538/I-ambushed-Twitterati-feminists-actual-fact-HATE-women.htmlYou are first a believer in that mixture and only much after comes the Qur'an if at all. You have yet not defended anything at all based on the qur'an instead of on the antifeminine crap.
I thought the thread was not mainly about Quran, but discussion on the society. Let me still say that I can't find any verse in Quran mentioning divide and rule. In fact, it says "The believing men and believing women are allies of one another" 971. If I push my ego on men I don't think I will help the woman race. Sound psychological changes come in humans through cooperation and not division.
At any rate about those poor boys condemned to pay alimony, no, sorry, support for their children, the mothers of those chidlren must by now possess big properties in the Riviera or Florida or Tahiti with all that child support, the way to become rich in no time, much much better than prostitution, aren't they evil.
Actually yes, thats why, our single mom tenant drove Acura. She also had a house, but the only reason she rented was because it was paid by the government. We have almost 40 to 47% kids born out of wedlock every year.
That your country is going down the drain like so many countries of course it the fault of femnism, that is women, bad women, whereas good women are like you, perfect. It is the bad women who follow the devil, who let themselves be temppted by the serpent who9 are to blame for everything. One should not listen to women
becaus they do not have a mind capable of sound reasoning. Only the Virgin is to be trusted who by her virginity vanquished the serpent, waw...I wonder why you are ignoring my statement I am making on and on about single moms' children and girls being pressured to have sex. It looks like you do support the rape. How do you explain this message from feminists?
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Congratulations the matrix-cum-sinner Eve has really managed to teach you all, even about Spain. My! you do cover ground.
You are right, do not let the Qur'an interfere with any of that. And you are right, there are good reasons to lame women for anything, There are big treaties onn that from every age of humanity, must be true.
I am not Christian and I don't believe in christian version of Eve. Matrix cum sinner is fictional Lilith aka Laila. About Spain, I already provided the ppt of it above and I am quite used to Spanish music videos which tend to be far more open than American music videos in terms of sexual objectification of women.
You are right, do not let the Qur'an interfere with any of that. And you are right, there are good reasons to lame women for anything, There are big treaties onn that from every age of humanity, must be true.
Sorry, despite the fact that West somehow is always using Quran laws, I cannot tell the countries upfront that they must adhere to all the verses because they are not Muslim. Only in Islamic countries where the women are having trouble can be shown the way. Unfortunately, I am not living in any of them. The only thing I can do is help the women here in US see and accept the truth. Western feminists only criticize the harsh conditions of women of those countries. They are not doing anything to help them. I guess this one piece sums up everything.
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