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The Qur'an, islam and the Personalized God

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    Spiritual harmony be upon you, Optimal Unity,

    I think you greatly misinterpret my words seeing your reactions. But you forget I speak not on a sect's behalf but I speak for God.

    Well of course there is no need to compromise seeing that everything is Islam, i.e. faith/confidence/wholeness (to God). Cooperate when the goal for everyone no matter "label" is to 'be thereof one in God/Allah'?

    People who call themselves Muslim just refer to themselves as "believers" or rather ones with faith as the word might suggest. Jews, by word, consider themselves guided and thus helpers, if even one of them still know why they are called that. This was because the 'Children of Israel' was to safeguard the Ark of the Covenant and act as the likes, but as you have seen through history the events have shown that they have not really kept their duties.

    The conjecture is what causes the differences between the sects or otherwise they would simply have the same foundation, because as I said, the prophets did not have any different teaching. If they taught something else then they would have been a false prophet.

    The solution is to erase the sectarian belonging and label altogether instead of some kind of compromise. I would gladly let people who indulge in rituals continue if they so stubbornly insist, but not would I compromise in saying that it is what God says lest I would lie. No prophet sent by God would take a group identity but would always refer to being one in God and the realm and by spirit thereof. If a prophet or messenger came now they would not call themselves Muslim either except by explaining what the word actually stands for.

    The Biblical scriptures are mainly lies to a big extent although a bit may be true. There were prophesies made by prophets in there, but the interpretation just like Quran is way off. Predicting the future is prophesying, but people generally do not know what a person who prophecies actually can do. A prophet can in the spirit of God prophecy events absorbed in God that will come true and be thus done from the prophet's will. Someone being of God can, believe it or not, make things come true through faith alone. Jesus tried hard to make people realize this. He said anyone could be like him. The problem is that very few have the personal capability to reach there.

    Not sure if the Astrology part made you annoyed, but that would in that case be a mysticism phenomenon similar to the code 19. May be true, but has little relevance except give some people faith if they need it. I have noticed that I am tending to find myself unintentionally acting very alike the Zodiacal sign I am, i.e. Taurus, but for the decree and what it teaches it makes no difference.

    All prophets would be calling out for unity and would call for people to treat everyone with respect, kinsman or stranger alike. Just look at what Jesus says in the Bible; "if you only look towards your own kin what difference does it make?" A primary lesson is to kill that ego of oneself and get soaked up in God and the realm and live as "We" and not "I". Why do you think Quran often phrases it as "We" for no (other) apparent reason?

    Be of one with God

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      Optimal_Unity
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      Spiritual harmony be upon you, Optimal Unity,

      I think you greatly misinterpret my words seeing your reactions. But you forget I speak not on a sect's behalf but I speak for God.

      Well of course there is no need to compromise seeing that everything is Islam, i.e. faith/confidence/wholeness (to God). Cooperate when the goal for everyone no matter "label" is to 'be thereof one in God/Allah'?

      People who call themselves Muslim just refer to themselves as "believers" or rather ones with faith as the word might suggest. Jews, by word, consider themselves guided and thus helpers, if even one of them still know why they are called that. This was because the 'Children of Israel' was to safeguard the Ark of the Covenant and act as the likes, but as you have seen through history the events have shown that they have not really kept their duties.

      The conjecture is what causes the differences between the sects or otherwise they would simply have the same foundation, because as I said, the prophets did not have any different teaching. If they taught something else then they would have been a false prophet.

      The solution is to erase the sectarian belonging and label altogether instead of some kind of compromise. I would gladly let people who indulge in rituals continue if they so stubbornly insist, but not would I compromise in saying that it is what God says lest I would lie. No prophet sent by God would take a group identity but would always refer to being one in God and the realm and by spirit thereof. If a prophet or messenger came now they would not call themselves Muslim either except by explaining what the word actually stands for.

      The Biblical scriptures are mainly lies to a big extent although a bit may be true. There were prophesies made by prophets in there, but the interpretation just like Quran is way off. Predicting the future is prophesying, but people generally do not know what a person who prophecies actually can do. A prophet can in the spirit of God prophecy events absorbed in God that will come true and be thus done from the prophet's will. Someone being of God can, believe it or not, make things come true through faith alone. Jesus tried hard to make people realize this. He said anyone could be like him. The problem is that very few have the personal capability to reach there.

      Not sure if the Astrology part made you annoyed, but that would in that case be a mysticism phenomenon similar to the code 19. May be true, but has little relevance except give some people faith if they need it. I have noticed that I am tending to find myself unintentionally acting very alike the Zodiacal sign I am, i.e. Taurus, but for the decree and what it teaches it makes no difference.

      All prophets would be calling out for unity and would call for people to treat everyone with respect, kinsman or stranger alike. Just look at what Jesus says in the Bible; "if you only look towards your own kin what difference does it make?" A primary lesson is to kill that ego of oneself and get soaked up in God and the realm and live as "We" and not "I". Why do you think Quran often phrases it as "We" for no (other) apparent reason?

      Be of one with God

      Peace be with you,

      I guess my motivation is how do we fix this mess?

      May Allah guide you...

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