Qatala and 'amaata
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Peace all,
I don't intend to muddy further already-muddied waters, but qatala certainly implies the intent of the agent in their intent to cause death, in English the equivalent would be to kill or to murder.
Whereas, amaata does not imply the intent of the agent as intending to cause death, in English there is no equivalent except to use a phrasal compound such as to cause to die.
A man is killed by the bullet of a person fired up in air; it will be Qatal, but in ciriminal justice there was no intent in it. A murder can be both ways; deliberately planned or one can kill another person by accident where he did not have such intent of killing the other person; as was happened in the case of Musa alahissalam.
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Peace Mazhar,
The verses you quote certainly demonstrate your point. I thank you.
My reasoning is that the fourth form of verbs are understood to be causative by analogy, irrespective of the intent of the agent, indeed, irrespective of anything other than causation, which is why I reason (based on analogy) that amaata signifies causing to die with no implication of the agent's intent.
However, considering the verses you quote, qatala, on the other hand, seems to signify killing either with, or without intent, depending on context.
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Peace Mazhar,
The verses you quote certainly demonstrate your point. I thank you.
My reasoning is that the fourth form of verbs are understood to be causative by analogy, irrespective of the intent of the agent, indeed, irrespective of anything other than causation, which is why I reason (based on analogy) that amaata signifies causing to die with no implication of the agent's intent.
However, considering the verses you quote, qatala, on the other hand, seems to signify killing either with, or without intent, depending on context.
Salmun alaika,
Yes, however, when he commits suicide, it will not be natural death; it will be self murder-qatal.
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Harmony be upon you,
I tend to agree with Mazhar on this issue.
Not like it would matter much to you, but in Persian/Farsi you say Q-T-L to mark kill/murder, and Moord when a person is dead even though different letters it reminds one of the Arabic version. So / marks the condition of being dead while Q-T-L is cause to die. However, Farsi is sometimes a poor choice to compare with because the Persians were highly involved in the erroneous interpretation of Qur'an a while after it was revealed, and they took many of the Arabic words and used in Farsi with their version of it.
The "Thereof Be Character" of as a series of letters may also mark that this person is gone and left the spirit, and it does perhaps not mean dead dead since a person is not really dead. Asema means "(Be) spirit thereof be" as a descriptive word to symbolize "Heaven". I draw parallels.
marks to "express character distinct" and I have my thoughts whether it must mean to kill and cannot mean hurt.. does not have the linguistic prerequisites to mean kill because it refers to in what kind of shape someone is, just like . Arabic is a very descriptive language, i.e. the language paints up what one wants to say by a combination of the letters.
Amaata could be translated as "be dead".
Anyways, thanks for my words. Hope you reach some personal conclusions.
Be of one with God
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Salmun alaika,
Yes, however, when he commits suicide, it will not be natural death; it will be self murder-qatal.
Salaam,
As per my understanding if any commit suicide or kill himself by drinking or smoking, it is not qatl but it is halaka or halaak.
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
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Harmony mmkhan,
hmm
Not sure I agree, but the 'kaaf' in the suggested words means a "cause" (as in cause and effect) innately interpreting the Arabic letters.
If you wrote the words with the Arabic script it helps.
Be of one with God
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Salaam,
As per my understanding if any commit suicide or kill himself by drinking or smoking, it is not qatl but it is halaka or halaak.
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhanThe above situation is expressive meanings for "kill himself" which will be described by arabic words as written above; not conceptual meanings; which is deliberately killing oneself. In first case one is not criminally charged; in the other case, if attempt is foiled, he is criminally charged since it is offence.