Hot/"ramadan" Answer
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Are you sure Ramadhan is one of the sacred months?
I say this because I reason that the sacred months are a period for hajj and that in this period besides no hunting there is abstinence and fasting when we are in ihram for three days and after returning seven days. That is 10 complete days. This is indicative that fasting is not held continuously throughout the entire period of the sacred months nor for an entire month at that!
So if fasting is not issued for an entire shahr during the months of hajj then Ramadan cannot be one of them.
This is my reasoning brotherYes I will God willing check it out soon
By new moon, do you mean crescent moon?
http//www.theragblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/waxing-crescent-moon-purple.jpg
yes i mean crescent moon
it all depends how you translate, witness the month-moon and fast in it-fast it. And do not come from behind in your houses but at the front, so clearly thiss tell us to begin the ramadan with crescent moon.
I will research it more, as soon i got more time
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I don't know how much this will contribute to the discussion but here we go. I live in Southern California and June 19th was the first really day above body temperature reaching 107F. The temperature was intense and it was humid. While waiting outside I witnessed the full moon on its rise from the east looking bright and full. Coincidentally the next day as the first day of summer (summer solstice). Temperatures soared to 45 degrees Celsius (113 F).
It is as if the moon brought the heat with itself. I do not know perhaps it is a Sign for me.2185 shahru ramadana The month/full moon of Ramadhaan
Shiin-ha-Ra = make it notable/known/manifest/public/infamous (in a bad or good sense), hire/contract for a month, stay a month, month old, month, new moon, moon, full moon, any evil thing that exposes its author to disgrace, a vice/fault or the like, big & bulky, reputable/eminent.
Ra-Miim-Dad = to be burning, heat, be blasted by the sun. ramaDda - to sharpen (a spear) between stones, roast, pasture on a burning ground, burn. ramDda - scorching heat, burning hot (ground). ramadzan - the ninth month of Islamic calendar, the month of fast.
I basically witnessed the scorching heat of the full moon/month
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Yes I will God willing check it out soon
http//www.theragblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/waxing-crescent-moon-purple.jpgThe Summer Solstice begins when the Sun enters into 0 degrees of the zodiac sign Cancer. The Summer Solstice is one of the four major "Solar Festivals" of the year; the others being the Winter Solstice of December 21st, when the Sun enters into 0 degrees of Capricorn, and the other two being the Spring Equinox when the Sun enters into 0 degrees of Aries, and the Fall Equinox when the Sun enters into 0 degrees of Libra.
All of the Satanic holidays have been corrupted and replaced with false and imposter biblical characters, fictitious legends, and practices completely unrelated to the original holidays. This was done by the Catholic Church for the sole purpose to remove all spirituality and occult knowledge.
That is why i believe summer and winter solstice are not part of Islam.
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The Summer Solstice begins when the Sun enters into 0 degrees of the zodiac sign Cancer. The Summer Solstice is one of the four major "Solar Festivals" of the year; the others being the Winter Solstice of December 21st, when the Sun enters into 0 degrees of Capricorn, and the other two being the Spring Equinox when the Sun enters into 0 degrees of Aries, and the Fall Equinox when the Sun enters into 0 degrees of Libra.
All of the Satanic holidays have been corrupted and replaced with false and imposter biblical characters, fictitious legends, and practices completely unrelated to the original holidays. This was done by the Catholic Church for the sole purpose to remove all spirituality and occult knowledge.
That is why i believe summer and winter solstice are not part of Islam.
Salaam
I hear you but just because the wrongdoers make inventions about these periods and commit evil in it, does it really mean this period itself is evil?
Then does the fact that those void of knowledge go to Mecca to kiss the back stone, throw stones at rock idols of shaytan and drink miracle zam-zam water, make Mecca an evil place?
There are people that commit evil during hajj period and while they are in irham in Mecca wrong themselves, does this equally make the hajj period and Mecca the opposite of what we know them to be?I would hope not. Therefore, perhaps looking at the wrongdoers is not helpful towards assessing what righteousness entails.
It may be after all that these periods of heat upsurge and seasonal change are correlated with Ramadhaan.
After all Allah Has subjected for us the moon and the sun each running for a term appointed that we may keep measurement of time. Perhaps these seasonal changes are more in congruence with the natural way of time-keeping established by God.
Let us keep searching and pondering.Peace
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Salaam
I hear you but just because the wrongdoers make inventions about these periods and commit evil in it, does it really mean this period itself is evil?
Then does the fact that those void of knowledge go to Mecca to kiss the back stone, throw stones at rock idols of shaytan and drink miracle zam-zam water, make Mecca an evil place?
There are people that commit evil during hajj period and while they are in irham in Mecca wrong themselves, does this equally make the hajj period and Mecca the opposite of what we know them to be?I would hope not. Therefore, perhaps looking at the wrongdoers is not helpful towards assessing what righteousness entails.
It may be after all that these periods of heat upsurge and seasonal change are correlated with Ramadhaan.
After all Allah Has subjected for us the moon and the sun each running for a term appointed that we may keep measurement of time. Perhaps these seasonal changes are more in congruence with the natural way of time-keeping established by God.
Let us keep searching and pondering.Peace
Selam,
Do we agree that the night of decree is a peaceful night?
If we do than 21-22 December never can be that night. So in this night satanic sacrifices happen and that is why it can not be the night of decree. I hope now you understand.
Peace
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Allah's Tranquility does not fall upon everyone 4826
Only Allah's Tranquility falls upon the believers even in battle!
The disbelievers still had disdain in their hearts.The same is possible for the Night of Decree, Salamun is a greeting, like that of the Angels to Ibrahim.
Perhaps alluding to Angels greeting the believers as they descend to carry out the commands of Our Lord.
Angels descend upon the BELIEVERS so wrongdoers wronging themselves would not affect this.
We can't say that because people are wronging themselves then this cannot be the period.
People are always wronging themselves.
Also I was referring to Summer Solstice not Winter because of shahr ramadana. -
Angels descend upon the BELIEVERS so wrongdoers wronging themselves would not affect this.
We can't say that because people are wronging themselves then this cannot be the period.
People are always wronging themselves.Yes. I totally agree with this.
I'm not saying mid December is the time we are looking for, but the things that disqualify mid December is NOT that some people, some where, at some point in history, carries/carried out evil/destructive acts. Such acts happen 24/7/365 in this world.
Peace
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I'm not saying mid December is the time we are looking for, but the things that disqualify mid December is NOT that some people, some where, at some point in history, carries/carried out evil/destructive acts. Such acts happen 24/7/365 in this world.
Peace
exactly...
the timing of gay bar is on every single night throughout europe till america... 24/7/365 lol
murder happen after every ten mintutes throghout the year... 24/7/365
lot of other things continue to happen including rape, robbery, theft and many more idol worship 24/7/365...can you figure out one night in which nothing wrong happen throughout the world so that night we can qualify that night of decree.. unfortunately not...
peace
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I'm from India and Eid here has been pushed to 7 July Indian time. However, UAE would be celebrating Eid tomorrow (6 July by Indian time). From what I've read, this is because UAE follows the Shafi interpretation, while the Indian subcontinent goes by the Hanafi interpretation. Both are Sunni belief systems.
I was quite confused and wanted a clearer answer based on the Koran. Google was my friend and I soon stumbled across Ayman's post, and it seems to make a lot of sense to me. I also happened to stumble across this article http//www.cbc.ca/news/technology/summer-solstice-full-moon-1.3640759.
It says,
That's because the summer solstice is technically the moment when the Earth's northern axis of rotation is most tilted toward the sun, and that happens every 365? days, and our calendar is just 365 days (with a leap year every four years) so the alignment between the two events varies, says Paul Mortfield, chair of the David Dunlap Observatory in Richmond Hill, Ont.Another interesting point which seems to confirm Ayman's interpretation is that the word "shahr" (meaning month or full moon) occurs exactly 12 times in the Koran, and the word day occurs exactly 365 days. No numerology here.
From what I've read so far, the meaning of shahr as "full moon" and Ramadan as "full moon of scorching heat/summer solstice" seems to be quite convincing and simple. The full-moon around the summer solstice also happens to be the one that's easiest to witness for anyone than any other moon observation.
Nevertheless, I will add that this is my understanding after a brief research. I do not claim that my understanding is the best or the most accurate. The moment we do this, we create differences. You are my brother/sister in faith, despite our differences in opinion, because we we're all trying to seek God through reason and questioning. Please feel free to add your opinions.
God alone knows best.
Peace.
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exactly...
the timing of gay bar is on every single night throughout europe till america... 24/7/365 lol
murder happen after every ten mintutes throghout the year... 24/7/365
lot of other things continue to happen including rape, robbery, theft and many more idol worship 24/7/365...can you figure out one night in which nothing wrong happen throughout the world so that night we can qualify that night of decree.. unfortunately not...
peace
So you do not believe Allahs words that Muslims are safe in that night, you do not believe that such a night exists? That is what you are telling with your post and i want to explain that Muslims are safe on that night, what others do in gaybars is not of our concern. I believe that the night of decree is a safe night and that Angels protect Muslims, as Allah says. I do not believe that satanic rituals on 21.22 December can be that night, because satanic rituals happen. But maybe it is and that is the reason that Allah sends Angels to protect us, but than we have other satanic rituals, also on 21 december and if we say that this the reason for angels coming down, than they would come also down on this other satanic dates. So i do not think that it has to with the satanic ritauls, or else there would have been 10 or more nights of decree
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This article corroborates the fact that the summer solstice full moon appears bigger than any other full moon due to an illusion.
http//www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/06/01/the-moon-illusion-why-our-lunar-satellite-appears-larger-when-lo/
This might be a good explanation, i will look into it
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I'm from India and Eid here has been pushed to 7 July Indian time. However, UAE would be celebrating Eid tomorrow (6 July by Indian time). From what I've read, this is because UAE follows the Shafi interpretation, while the Indian subcontinent goes by the Hanafi interpretation. Both are Sunni belief systems.
I was quite confused and wanted a clearer answer based on the Koran. Google was my friend and I soon stumbled across Ayman's post, and it seems to make a lot of sense to me. I also happened to stumble across this article http//www.cbc.ca/news/technology/summer-solstice-full-moon-1.3640759.
It says,
That's because the summer solstice is technically the moment when the Earth's northern axis of rotation is most tilted toward the sun, and that happens every 365? days, and our calendar is just 365 days (with a leap year every four years) so the alignment between the two events varies, says Paul Mortfield, chair of the David Dunlap Observatory in Richmond Hill, Ont.Another interesting point which seems to confirm Ayman's interpretation is that the word "shahr" (meaning month or full moon) occurs exactly 12 times in the Koran, and the word day occurs exactly 365 days. No numerology here.
From what I've read so far, the meaning of shahr as "full moon" and Ramadan as "full moon of scorching heat/summer solstice" seems to be quite convincing and simple. The full-moon around the summer solstice also happens to be the one that's easiest to witness for anyone than any other moon observation.
Nevertheless, I will add that this is my understanding after a brief research. I do not claim that my understanding is the best or the most accurate. The moment we do this, we create differences. You are my brother/sister in faith, despite our differences in opinion, because we we're all trying to seek God through reason and questioning. Please feel free to add your opinions.
God alone knows best.
Peace.
Peace nothing against you brother but....
....You will never ever arrive at the truth by mixing it in with the falsehood.
The earth does not rotate around the sun and it is not a spinning globe.
It is a dome enclosed stationary plane as Allah has created it. There is overwhelming evidence in Scripture(Torah, Old Testament, Psalms, Gospel, and Quran) and evidence in Scientific history( Samuel Rowbotham, George Sagnac, Nikola Tesla, Michelson and Morrey) and contemporary efforts( Me and 1000's of amateur star gazers, scientists) which have demonstrated through real experiments the earth is neither spherical or in motion.Dear brother, you will be misled if you conjunct the falsehood with the truth
This article corroborates the fact that the summer solstice full moon appears bigger than any other full moon due to an illusion.
http//www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/06/01/the-moon-illusion-why-our-lunar-satellite-appears-larger-when-lo/
I would not call it illusion/magic, that is what the disbelievers say in the Quran about the Signs of Allah 541-4. It is instead a wonderful creation of Allah hence a Sign/Miracle to serve as a reminder of the Awesomeness of The Creator. Glory be to Him!
If you pay attention however to your own link they claim this
"The Moon illusionDuring the summer months, the full Moon also shares this part of the sky and its proximity to the horizon can play visual tricks thanks to the ?Moon illusion?.
This makes a rising full Moon seem much larger than it actually is. There are many theories that attempt to explain this. One suggests we interpret the sky as a flattened dome."
Zulf I hope you now see the importance of not being deceived by modern anti-god science
However I do agree that the mechanism responsible for changing the trajectory (elliptical path) of the moon and sun around what we know as Summer Solstice might be correlated with Ramadhan but again if we assume a ball earth spinning around the sun, then we are being deceived by the deceiver about the life of the world and Our Creator. The FE model which is congruent with Allah's Words is more befitting to answer the question of the timing of Ramadhan that's all I am saying.
Peace
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Nice Hp Tech. i have created a thread do we believe Allah or scientists and NASA and most people who post there do not believe in a flat earth, even if Quran says that Allah spread the earth like a carpet,there is not any mention of a round world in Quran and other scriptures say the same story. I am very happy we share the same view.
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Nice Hp Tech. i have created a thread do we believe Allah or scientists and NASA and most people who post there do not believe in a flat earth, even if Quran says that Allah spread the earth like a carpet,there is not any mention of a round world in Quran and other scriptures say the same story. I am very happy we share the same view.
RED There is no mention of flat/carpet/cubic/globe/cylindrical/pyramid/whatever shape in the quran about the shape of earth.
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RED There is no mention of flat/carpet/cubic/globe/cylindrical/pyramid/whatever shape in the quran about the shape of earth.
As devout Muslims, we have good reason to conclude the Earth is flat; the Qur'anic verses 1519, 2053, 4310, 507, 5148, 7119, 786, 7930, 8820 and 916 all clearly state this and not a single verse in the Qur'an hint to a spherical earth.
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Nice Hp Tech. i have created a thread do we believe Allah or scientists and NASA and most people who post there do not believe in a flat earth, even if Quran says that Allah spread the earth like a carpet,there is not any mention of a round world in Quran and other scriptures say the same story. I am very happy we share the same view.
By the way, if you still insist to continue your thread that discuss about FE, I suggest you to have two way discussion with HP_TECH about this issue, perhaps you both could use PM.
I think this young brother (HP_TECH) is a real/sincere scientist, and I hope you both could have good mutual discussion.
Peace.
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By the way, if you still insist to continue your thread that discuss about FE, I suggest you to have two way discussion with HP_TECH about this issue, perhaps you both could use PM.
I think this young brother (HP_TECH) is a real/sincere scientist, and I hope you both could have good mutual discussion.
Peace.
Selam,he was talking to bookish, and i do not have to discuss this with him, we share the same view. Peace
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Selam,he was talking to bookish, and i do not have to discuss this with him, we share the same view. Peace
But in my opinion, you were rather 'careless' in sharing the information about FE. I think it is good to be careful (e.g. study it carefully first) and selective if you want to share information about FE on this forum.
Don't you know that there are FE shills?
Peace.
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