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    Peace! Just wanted to inform you guys about the sacred power Kundalini. If there is any forum on the Earth which deserves to hear about it, it would be this one.

    You can get glimpses of what could be in the hereafter, in this life.

    For instance if you explore the world of 'prana'/breath, you will find this entire dimension of existence, overlayed on this very reality yet most people are completely oblivious to it. In the 'normal' world, it is spent eating, shitting, socialising, perhaps watching football or playing sports, and perhaps there is some science or art or medicine or whatever else, it is always the study of matter itself, manipulating 3D objects through time. In the pranic world there is a dissolution of subjectobject and also a dissolution of time and space. You are no longer a person kicking a ball around, you are the person kicking, the ball being kicked, the air surrounding the ball and the earth supporting it all. You experience the full footballkickness of the football kick, if that makes any sense? Now the 'normal' world does not do justice to the age of the universe neither to its vastness or complexity. No, there is a far finer purpose for which we have come into being and it is understood and discovered through the mechanism of Kundalini, or Yoga, Yoga being the science of arousing the Kundalini. Kundalini is the Holy Spirit, the fire of the spirit of Allah within each and every creature. It lies dormant normally and you can awaken it through various methods. Consequently when it is awakened and reaches completion, you complete the first stage of your worldly life and move onto the second. Now most people do not even get beyond the first stage, so if you do manage to, count yourself lucky. God willing this will be the dominant method of living within the next millenia.

    Our true purpose on Earth is to awaken the Kundalini and become self-realised beings, complete, and no longer looking outwardly for truth but relying on the presence of the Eternal Self Subsisting One within, for guidance in all matters of life. Once Kundalini is awakened, in other cultures known as Ruh/Shekhinah/Holy Spirit, there is a new dimension to Life which was not there before. To explain this dimension I am having difficulty with at present as this is all very new to me. But when I look at my body now, I do not see the flesh that I used to, I do not see the animal. I see a divine substance, an intelligence in a host, a being that will live forever and explore infinite cosmos with total perfection of knowledge and communion with Allah. I see a machine that is universal, I see the twirling and vortexing of galaxies in each and every cell, I see infinite design, I see a home for the Witnessing Spirit. I am beyond the point where I am looking for God, I am beyond all questions regarding God. That ceased with the awakening and completion, it was then that I understood the true meaning of Life but this is something that cannot be exchanged with someone else but each one has to experience it for oneself, it is not a word or a sentence you can say "this is it" but it is a direct experience of the Soul itself which clarifies once and for all the fundamental and ultimate questions of "who are we, where did we come from, where are we going and why are we here?".

    Now I do not just live to eat and shit and reproduce. I can directly feel the impact and effects of my deeds on my hands. I have psychic abilities, I can read thoughts across the room - not in a direct fashion mind you but in a sensed heart-feeling way. If I do a bad deed, I feel how much Fire I have earned, my hands tell me. If I do a good deed, I feel how much goodness I have earned, my hands tell me. It is a white hot energy constantly running through my body giving signals on how to act and respond to the world. There is so much more to it, I have not even begun to explain this. I no longer feel separate or distinct from anyone else, I feel everything from both sides. The life within me is the life within the trees and the animals. I can see breathing patterns, I can see how other people are breathing and feeling within themselves. I can sometimes see and feel things behind me and all around me, things that normally would have eluded me. Basically I feel like a superbeing, human 2.0 and yet still this is just the worldly life. Things get REALLY hectic when money is involved. I swear, money is Fire, if you use it right it's Paradise, if you use it wrong it is quite SOMETHING OH BOY! When I spend or receive money, I feel white hot fire moving in or out of my body in direct proportion to the amount transferred, and not just that but it feels like shit's about to get very very REAL, oh yeah. It's a real time judgement, I am truly happy and grateful to Allah for guiding me to this, I was looking for it my whole life and it turned out to be true, that the Life which Allah has designed is more magical than anything you will ever see in a movie or fiction book, it has no limits and even beyond this, there is something else, something else I just cannot describe but you will have to see for yourself, it is Sublime and Majestic beyond all bounds of cognition or mental understanding.

    The most amazing thing is that you can talk directly to the Kundalini. It is like having an angel with you everywhere you go, a companion but this companion is your very own highest Self, the final You who knows everything about you and everything about what is going on around you and it is guiding you to itself. You talk, it responds, you listen, you act and your Life improves, it's as simple as that. It's like having the quran installed as a chip in your body but better.

    All of this and this is just Earthly life, let alone the Paradise.
    And the life of this world is but a sport and a play. And the home of the Hereafter, that surely is the Life, did they but know!

    Now imagine what is in eternal life. When I look at Eternal Life, I see this. I see me designing inventions. I see me using the ultimate science to design the ultimate inventions, day in day out, creating works of spectacular beauty and function, and transcending everything. I see a world of sensory ecstasy, a way to invent new senses altogether, a way to experience the entire universe in your fingertips, the entire glory of it all. This experience would obliterate your body in the worldly life but in the Hereafter, where you have pure body, pure mind, pure soul, you will be able to pass infinite energy through the body without frying it. With such an ability comes infinite dimensional experience. Then do you think sex or food is going to be the theme of paradise? These things are merely sustenance, what is actually Life is something far far beyond our present ability to comprehend. Each and every little plant and animal will live once more in its eternal body and then we will truly, absolutely truly know each other for who we really are, the best version of ourselves. Imagine on this planet you have so many things you want to say, you want to sing, dance, draw, design, you want to do all sorts of things but you are bound by society, money, culture, evil, etc. Now imagine all of those bounds removed, imagine that the water you drink is crystal clear and completely nourishes you, you have a crystal clear mind, deep spinal breathing, total connection to your surroundings. You move with total rhythm and effortless grace (something you can already do in the worldly life, this is known as Samadhi), everything comes easy, everything flows together. You understand why mountains are mountains and rivers are rivers, you now understand why Allah created us to eat food and with beating hearts, you understand why we have eyes, ears, lips, tongues, genitals, skin, you understand the physical universe.

    I can see this intricate web of nerve-like energy, filaments or currents, connecting everything. This is the hardest thing to explain. Some people may know of this as the hyperspatial grid. This is why we truly exist, it is at least in part to act on this dimension, the dimension where everything is connected, where the outside world feels like the inside of your body, where your 'body' is the entire universe, where you feel the entire light spectrum for what it is and understand how to harness Light and move the individual wavelengths in the ways that they fit together to construct genuine structures. This is not even touching on the Spirit world... I am scratching the surface, again. I don't know much about the realms of jinn but I feel them moving around and doing things. I have seen alien beings too, spirits and aliens alike. I thought perhaps jinn might just be aliens but then there are spirits with different forms, all kinds of forms. They seem to already know about this world of prana, but humans are vastly unaware. I understand that it is through the prana world that the jinn gain their bizarre supernatural powers.

    Enough rambling, I think you get the rough idea by now )

    hail

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      Salaam OPF,

      bravo bravo bravo

      Awesome post.

      Ra's channeling "the law of one", and Aaron's channeling say almost the same thing. Advanced sufis, mystics, shamans, yogis, and monks say almost the same thing. Buddha went through this spiritual awakening and went from 3rd density to 6th density state in one life! Normally it can take hundreds of thousands of years to attain 6th density state.

      It's all about experience and letting the infinite Intelligent Energy flow through yourself and realizing you are not separate from the infinite Creator but a manifestation of a tiny part of the infinite Creator in reality. This physical world is just an illusion of separateness from the infinite Creator and because we all are parts of the infinite Intelligent Energy, we are all interconnected and one in reality, and have unlimited potential. I am glad and envious you have been able to communicate with your Highest Self consciously. It means the veil has started lifting for you!

      Did you achieve Kundalini awakening through ayahuasca alone or in combination with something else like meditation, yoga etc.? Are you having out of body experiences or astral projection also? Please describe some of the things you have seen with your astral body if you have. Have you communicated with the aliens and the spirits? Can you tell the difference between positive and negative aliens? Have you been able to access the Akashic records yet?

      May the infinite Creator bless you.

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        What if doing that can turn out to be => the act of associating "Kundalini" with Allah?

        Peace.

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          Our true purpose on Earth is to awaken the Kundalini and become self-realised beings, complete,

          Evidence from Quran?

          Isn't it strange how kundalini is so favored in kabbalism, sufism and aghorism?
          I understand the dead language called sanskrit from which the kundalini terms are taken.

          Prana doesn't mean breathing, but soul or a living being. According to fake experts, kundalini helps attain samadhi. They think it means enlightened consciousness. But true meaning of samadhi is funeral. In the beginning, its all gonna feel good because of the drugs forming from chemical reaction of the body. Eyes will see what looks out of reach for the average person.

          Let some years pass. Then a time will come when body will begin to get affected. I know it will always be sugarcoated by the experts. Here is an example

          Sometimes a person will not have the patience or the information to do this and so the suicide numbers of K active people in the west are somewhat staggering. 30 percent is the percentage I have been given from my Kundalini. Thirty percent will simply kill themselves due to the difficulty of redefining the life with in the Kundalini context.
          http//www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/kundalini-suicide.html#.VOqsqPnF-AU

          Yep! Redefining the fact that the body no more is in control of the real soul.

          peace

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            The most amazing thing is that you can talk directly to the Kundalini.

            But, I prefer to talk to Allah (such as when I pray), rather than talking to Kundalini.

            Why you wanted to change yourself into like that?

            Meanwhile, before you sought that Kundalini, I suppose Allah already bless you more than enough, right?

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              New age crap and nothing to do with islam. Anyone who would like to open his kundalini or third eye - take some marijuana or for better effect some heroin.

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                You need to connect that terminology with what the Abrahamic prophets taught. This is the same as what Jesus taught as according to the fairly detailed Biblical Gospels about "the Father's Kingdom".

                Allah is the collective name. Rabb is the personal address for "God". You will never see any (righteous) person in Quran call upon "God" through Allah. It could be because Allah is the Kingdom.

                Quran speaks of the same if you interpret it properly.

                If you have a spiritual ascension in this life then obviously you can see beyond the illusion and barrier of this world. Without exaggerating I can see the "spirit" that the illusive mass is made of subtly in the background when I behold the world myself. And I have worked hard on separating the spirit from the mass. The goal is to reduce one's worldliness as much as possible, because attachment to this world will be one's undoing. The one who is attached to this world will succumb to it.

                Method is simple, turn to the spiritual affinity of Allah and cease to exist as an ego, i.e. separate the spirit from the flesh. Do not give in to the instincts but be aware of them, i.e. control the beast instead of being controlled by it. Some people fast often to help with this, without consuming enormous meals afterwards like ignorant sectarians, amen I tell you, they have missed the point. It is not the suffer for "God" you are after because "God" does not like you to suffer but it is to let the body to be less indulgent. I would say you can just control and limit how much you eat and eat so your beast body stays alive and sound, your spirit does not die regardless. But if you forget yourself well then I tell you that old-fashioned fasting works.

                You can decide to buy bread and live on water and bread as a diet during a period. That is a technique borrowed from the 'Children of Israel'.

                But do not torment the body for you need it for some interim. The intention is not to kill the flesh for that would be a sin.

                But leave things like Jinns out of the game please, that is superstitious nonsense because a Jinn is a misinterpreted word for a faithless/worldly individual. It is an antonym for (al-naas) which refers to people with spirit/consciousness. Shaitaan is a Jinn because he simply is faithless and broken. Shaitaan is the broken spiritual affinity which wants to tempt everyone to succumb to this world.

                Salaam

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                  You need to connect that terminology with what the Abrahamic prophets taught. This is the same as what Jesus taught as according to the fairly detailed Biblical Gospels about "the Father's Kingdom".

                  Peace )
                  In that sense aghories are more Muslim/Christian than those who call themselves so.
                  If kundalini was important we would have learned about its steps right from Quran. Allah's way will never cause people to go through bad abuse.

                  KF writes ?As a former practitioner, I understand the dangers involved in . . . TM-style meditation, centering prayer and yoga. I?d especially like to see an article on the enormous damage that can be caused by ?kundalini? effects.?

                  My thanks to KF for giving me this opportunity to blog about the extreme dangers of Kundalini yoga and the kundalini ?awakening? that it is designed to bring about.

                  First of all, kundalini yoga is a type of yoga that attempts to arouse and raise the kundalini, believed to be Shakti or creative divine energy which supposedly sleeps in the form of a coiled snake at the base of the spine. It employs pranayama or breathing exercises, visualization, asanas (body poses) and mudras (hand positions) along with chanting and meditation to awaken and then raise the kundalini.

                  Yogis believe that when the Kundalini awakens, the door of the Sushumna (an energy conduit) is opened and the Kundalini ascends through the six chakras (alleged energy centers) until it reaches the crown chakra at the top of the head. When it reaches this height, it unites with Lord Shiva (the god of destruction) whose consort is Shakti. This union supposedly brings about the joy of ?Blissful Beatitude.?

                  This is the religious explanation of a kundalini awakening, an event that is accompanied by many physical and/or spiritual side effects which some regard as evidence of spiritual progress, but others see as potentially serious problems. These include

                  ? Involuntary jerks, tremors, shaking, itching, tingling, and crawling sensations, especially in the arms and legs

                  ? Energy rushes or feelings of electricity circulating the body

                  ? Heart palpitations

                  ? Intense heat (sweating) or cold, especially as energy is experienced passing through the chakras

                  ? Visions or sounds at times associated with a particular chakra

                  ? Emotional purgings in which particular emotions become dominant for short periods of time.

                  ? Depression

                  ? Pressure inside the skull and headache

                  ? Bliss, feelings of infinite love and universal connectedness, transcendent awareness

                  ? Involuntary suspension of breath

                  The spiritual manifestations can be even more bizarre. People who have experienced a kundalini awakening have testified to terrifying experiences, such as being visited by spirits who at first appeared friendly but then became hostile and abusive. In this article a woman named Carole, who is a personal friend of noted Christian apologist, Dr. John Weldon, was physically and spiritually assaulted by spirits who would try to extract the life from her body, as if ?monstrosities of another world were trying to take my very soul from me, inflicting pain beyond endurance, ripping and tearing into the very depths of my being.?

                  When the assaults would not stop, she was referred to Dr. C. Norman Shealy, M.D., Ph.D., a noted neurosurgeon, a former professor at Harvard University, past president of the American Holistic Medical Association, and the author of Occult Medicine Can Save Your Life. He couldn?t help her, and sent her to Dr. Robert Leichtman, M.D., another spiritist who coauthored several dozen books allegedly received by revelation from the spirits.

                  Leichtman admitted that Carole?s situation was not uncommon among followers of Eastern gurus and even admitted to her that some had died of these and similar psychic attacks. He was also unable to help her.

                  Carole was ultimately healed when she turned her life over to the only true Master Healer ? Jesus Christ.

                  It?s interesting to note that yogis themselves consider kundalini yoga to be risky and openly condemn yogis who teach it indiscriminately to the public. They also report bizarre effects such as temporary madness and lasting mental instability or illness in their pupils.

                  Puran Kahn Bair, master meditation teacher and mystic who studied with Sufi teacher Pir Vilayat Inayat Khan, believes there is great danger in raising the Kundalini because it may not turn off or the state it produces could become addictive.

                  ?I have seen a number of cases where people have been debilitated by Kundalini and struggle for years trying to correct the imbalances, often with no success and much despair,? he writes in this article about the complications associated with kundalini awakenings.

                  So does this mean there really is a coiled snake at the base of our spines that can have such a powerful effect on our minds and bodies when awakened?

                  No. It means that some of these practices may stimulate major endocrine glands and nerve bundles known as ganglions which happen to be located very near the alleged position of the chakras. The endocrine system is a system of glands which secrete hormones into the bloodstream to regulate various parts of the body. It is an information signal system similar to that of the nervous system, so it?s easy to see why tampering with these glands could cause a variety of unwelcome side effects.

                  Clare McGrath Merkle, former yoga instructor and New Age expert, attests to what can happen when one tampers with these powerful glands in the practice of yoga.

                  ?An example is at my own workplace where Power Yoga is offered at lunchtime for a quick pick-me-up,? she writes in her article, ?Yoga Health or Stealth??

                  ?The yoga instructor recently had the class perform an exercise designed to stimulate the pituitary gland ? and one of my co-workers did not sleep the entire following night. The dangers of any kind of yoga can include abuse of power, unconscious motivations of teachers and students, as well as the ignorance of the physiological and psychological effects of yoga. ?

                  While kundalini may sound exotic and intriquing, it is anything but. If you want to keep your sanity, stay away from it.

                  Source http//www.womenofgrace.com/blog/?p=676#sthash.63PPbdFV.dpuf

                  Another one
                  Not everybody can handle the mental and physical side effects of Kundalini awakening. According to Lawrence Edwards, a transpersonal psychotherapist who teaches Kundalini meditation, awakening your Kundalini can activate latent disease of the body and mind. http//healthyliving.azcentral.com/negative-impact-kundalini-yoga-8684.html

                  And here is a site made to help those who had severe side effect from kundalini
                  http//kundalini.se/en/articles/investigation-and-diagnosis-76-cases-kundalini-arousal

                  But leave things like Jinns out of the game please, that is superstitious nonsense because a Jinn is a misinterpreted word for a faithless/worldly individual. It is an antonym for (al-naas) which refers to people with spirit/consciousness. Shaitaan is a Jinn because he simply is faithless and broken. Shaitaan is the broken spiritual affinity which wants to tempt everyone to succumb to this world.

                  Brother, do you mean to say bad people are not made from clay?

                  1526 And We did certainly create man out of clay from an altered black mud.
                  1527 And the jinn We created before from scorching fire.

                  5156 And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me.

                  If all Jinns are faithless and broken why do they say this in the Quran?
                  From Surah Jinn
                  7211 And among us are the righteous, and among us are not so; we were divided ways.
                  72 14 And among us are Muslims , and among us are the unjust. And whoever has become Muslim - those have sought out the right course.

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                    Salaam reel,

                    The translations are poor. That is why Jinn looks like separate creatures.

                    Qbl is used to symbolize before, but it appears not to always mean before in a time frame but literally "before" (someone). This is why in Qiblat(eh) it marks someone who goes in front, like a role model.

                    It is as logical (the translations) as to say angels are made of fire since nothing can be made of fire since it is a chemical reaction.

                    And there is nonsense connected to this topic too such as mysterious yoga etc. There is no shortcut to the real Kingdom of God but a spiritual perception and living.

                    Salaam

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                      If kundalini was important we would have learned about its steps right from Quran.

                      Good point.

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                        Salaam Man of Faith,

                        You said that shaitaan/jinn is the antonym for Al-Naas which are people with spirit/consciousness, ok it could be the antonym for al-naas but I think naas doesn't refer to people with spirit.

                        Basically according to the Quran, what I have understood is that there are four levels

                        1. Naas - general people with no awakening whatsoever

                        2. Insaan - people with spirit/ consciousness

                        3. Adam - stage where one is fully aware of his/her self wherein your angels (desires) bow to you and are in your control

                        4. Bashar - this is the highest level since Prophet Muhammad was commanded to say "Say I am like a Bashar"

                        What's the ayah of surah Rahman mean when it says "Khalaqna Jaanna Min Naar" which is usually translated as "And we created Jinn from fire."

                        As for kundalini, I think "Tazkiyah Tun Nafs" (Purification of the self) points in that direction. Your input would be highly appreciated.

                        Salaam

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                          Salaam alta,

                          No I consider that 'naas' is actually a particular kind of spiritual perception of a person who has realized that the way to go is to become spiritually ascended.

                          The only antonym is jinn which means you simply let yourself succumb to worldliness. This word has erroneously become synonymous with some supernatural being while it is a (negative) spiritual affinity.

                          Those who are jinn lead people into disaster without being aware of it themselves in their deluded unawareness. It is the same as listening to the flesh.

                          Insan is a person who has managed for real to gain what they look for in their spiritual pursuit.

                          Adam is the image of a person that you should be. Your ability to be (real) human.

                          Bashar I call an informer, a person who possess so much insight they can help other people.

                          Regarding the creation of jaan from nar I take as the flesh being created as in the method of assembly. I will look more into the passage for you.

                          Well, the condition you should reach is some sort of nirvana. I consider Jesus to have been a real nirvana. A real role model for that. The phrase including the root z - k - w that u gave talks about that as you say. Purification of soul.

                          Salaam

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                            Salaam alta,

                            I understand the naas word in Arabic, but I cannot put any English word to it. I know it means more than just 'people' though. This is the reason why jinn and naas are mentioned in conjunction.

                            I can say that it has to do with a consciousness of integrity and not just a slave to the mass (the material illusion). The one who is a slave to the beast is a jinn and will be cursed into eternity to it.

                            Being a naas does not guarantee any salvation however. It is only an "awakening" or realization, but it takes developing that spirit.

                            Salaam

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                              Salaam Altaf, others,

                              Following is my view about who we are, and who the jinn, angels, and spirits are

                              Please feel free to discard anything I say that doesn't make any sense or doesn't harmonize with your inner compass/conscience (3030), reasoning (611, 644 etc.), or real world evidence (4153, 1736).

                              We all (the entire creation) are a tiny part of the infinite Creator and eventually when we reach the 8th density state of existence, the illusion of separateness will disappear and we all will merge back with the infinite Creator.

                              Density is the closest word in English that I can think of to express the state of existence. You can substitute it with "level" if "density" doesn't make sense.

                              The Creator is infinite (2115). The logical implication is that everything is part of the infinite Creator. If something is not part of the Creator then the Creator would be finite because the Creator would end somewhere and that something will begin somewhere. Since the Creator is infinite then everything is part of the infinite Creator.

                              2115 And to God belong the east and the west, so wherever you turn, there is the face of God. God is Encompassing, Knowledgeable.

                              All creation is physical manifestation of a tiny part of the infinite Intelligent Energy (the Infinite Creator). Energy and matter are interconvertible (E = m times c squared). Quantum physics proposes that all sub atomic particles are fundamentally formed from vibrations of strings of energy.

                              http//www.universetoday.com/114617/a-fun-way-of-understanding-emc2/

                              http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCkGD76OEwA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

                              In our current 3rd density physical state of existence we are in an illusion of separateness from the infinite Creator. We will progressively go through higher density states of existence (the hereafter or heaven) until we reach the 8th density and merge back with the infinite Creator.

                              3rd density humans will eventually be transformed into 4th or higher density beings. Please reflect and meditate on the following verses

                              5660 We have predetermined death for you. Nothing can stop us
                              5661 From transforming your forms, and establishing you in what you do not know.

                              This worldy life is nothing but an illusion/deception

                              5720 ............This worldly life is no more than an illusion/deceiving enjoyment.

                              Earth, air, water etc, are at 1st density state of existence; no consciousness, no free will.

                              Animals and plants are at 2nd density state of existence. They have consciousness but they don't have free will to choose between service to self (STS) or service to others (STO) path. Some animals such as cats and dogs are at a higher 2nd density state of existence, close to 3rd density.

                              Humans are at 3rd density state of existence. They have consciousness and free will to choose between STS or STO path. There are various sub-densities in the 3rd density which correspond to the various spiritual levels of human beings.

                              Jinn is a "hidden being or entity". Jinns (aliens, spirit guides, angels etc.) are at 4th or higher density states of existence. They have all the above plus their sub atomic particles are made of strings of energy vibrating at a different frequency than the lower densities so their "bodies" look different, with different physical properties. For example they can cloak themselves from the lower densities, have ability of telepathic communication, materialize as 3rd density being, exist as a collective, exist on planets that are uninhabitable to lower density entities etc. Their bodies become less and less dense and more and more light as the densities increase.

                              3rd density beings have 4 bodies - Physical body

                              • Emotional or Astral body
                              • Mental body
                              • Spiritual body

                              In 4th density, the physical body is shed and the other 3 remain. There is no physical suffering possible then, but only emotional, mental and spiritual suffering is possible.

                              In 5th density, the emotional body is also shed and only the other 2 remain.

                              In 6th density onwards, the mental body is also shed and only the spiritual body remains and they are "light beings".

                              In 7th density, preparation is made to merge back with the infinite Creator and they supervise lower density beings.

                              In 8th density, merging back with the infinite Creator occurs, termed as "return to your Lord" by al-quran.

                              228 How can you reject God when you were dead and He brought you to life? Then He makes you die, then He brings you to life, then to Him you return.

                              Some of these higher density entities have been given control by the infinite Creator over various matters and they are what al-quran refers to as "malaika"/controllers.

                              May the infinite Creator guide us to the truth.

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                                Salaam reel,

                                The translations are poor. That is why Jinn looks like separate creatures.

                                Qbl is used to symbolize before, but it appears not to always mean before in a time frame but literally "before" (someone). This is why in Qiblat(eh) it marks someone who goes in front, like a role model.

                                You have to come in contact with Jinn to know that they are separate creatures. What is funny is that the effects of jinn taking over a body and kundalini rising are almost the same.
                                Examples hearing sound, emotions going weird, crawling feeling, feeling heat, etc.

                                It is as logical (the translations) as to say angels are made of fire since nothing can be made of fire since it is a chemical reaction.

                                I used to think angels were made from light. I thought it was in the Quran. But later I came to know that the idea was manufactured by Bukhari and friends. So I don't believe in it anymore. Strange that I couldn't find a single verse in Quran explaning what angels are made from. All I know is that they have wings and are extremely tall.

                                And there is nonsense connected to this topic too such as mysterious yoga etc. There is no shortcut to the real Kingdom of God but a spiritual perception and living.

                                http//yoga.about.com/od/kundaliniyoga/a/kundalini.htm

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                                  Peace reel,

                                  You have to come in contact with Jinn to know that they are separate creatures. What is funny is that the effects of jinn taking over a body and kundalini rising are almost the same.
                                  Examples hearing sound, emotions going weird, crawling feeling, feeling heat, etc.

                                  I agree with this. Negative 5th density entities are notorious for initiating psychic attacks on 3rd density humans. One has to be extremely careful, and practice this technique only under the close supervision of an adept. All the concerns you have raised about K awakening are valid concerns because you make yourself open and vulnerable to psychic attacks by negative 4th and 5th density entities.

                                  I used to think angels were made from light. I thought it was in the Quran. But later I came to know that the idea was manufactured by Bukhari and friends. So I don't believe in it anymore. Strange that I couldn't find a single verse in Quran explaning what angels are made from. All I know is that they have wings and are extremely tall.

                                  bravo

                                  In case you had a misunderstanding from what I wrote, I never claimed angels were made from light. Light beings does not mean made from light but "light" as in less dense and more transparent. Maybe I should have said "energy beings".

                                  Also Quran never mentions "angels". Malaika doesn't mean angels but "controllers" who have been given control over certain powers. Also "wings" are allegorical wings. They imply the power to travel in space at a very fast rate.

                                  May the infinite Creator guide us to the truth.

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                                    Reel,

                                    It is not jinns you are talking about. It is a hijacked word to symbolize something else.

                                    If Shaitaan and company are jinns (faithless/broken) so obviously you can meet powerful jinns from the ethereal world too, but the word marks a lack of the divine light so to say and a human can also be a jinn because it is a spiritual affinity as I said.

                                    Jinn can be said to refer to someone of "low integrity".

                                    A majority of humans are becoming and taken over by jinns, but jinn is still an affinity rather than other creature.

                                    Angels are without mass so they are not made of anything Earthly except if coming here in disguise.

                                    When Quran speaks of Satans in plural then you are speaking of evil spirits. Satan is the phenomenon concerning what has been wrongfully attributed to jinn.

                                    Salaam

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                                      In case you had a misunderstanding from what I wrote, I never claimed angels were made from light. Light beings does not mean made from light but "light" as in less dense and more transparent. Maybe I should have said "energy beings".

                                      Also Quran never mentions "angels". Malaika doesn't mean angels but "controllers" who have been given control over certain powers. Also "wings" are allegorical wings. They imply the power to travel in space at a very fast rate.

                                      May the infinite Creator guide us to the truth.

                                      Oops, so sorry, I should have said earlier that it was not in response to your post brother. The rumor of angel just popped into my head when you guys were mentioning about its structure. I was just pondering on how I was fooled by the traditionalists.

                                      Reel,

                                      It is not jinns you are talking about. It is a hijacked word to symbolize something else.

                                      If Shaitaan and company are jinns (faithless/broken) so obviously you can meet powerful jinns from the ethereal world too, but the word marks a lack of the divine light so to say and a human can also be a jinn because it is a spiritual affinity as I said.

                                      Jinn can be said to refer to someone of "low integrity".

                                      A majority of humans are becoming and taken over by jinns, but jinn is still an affinity rather than other creature.

                                      My grandma and granddad have connection with jinns. Hence, what they are is very familiar to me. Back to topic of kundalini/merkaba, what we need to remember is that Quran does not talk about it. Moreover, it can lead to danger as shown by me and agreed by truthseeker. Allah will never want his slaves to go through it. Op claimed

                                      Kundalini is the Holy Spirit, the fire of the spirit of Allah within each and every creature.

                                      If aghories are able to have the so called "fire of the spirit of Allah"

                                      1. why do they slaughter humans and eat their flesh?
                                      2. why do they engage in necrophelia?
                                      3. why do they roam around naked?

                                      Kundalini was also quite a big thing in Pharaoh's kingdom. But it took Mosses to make him realize he was an idiot.

                                      peace

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                                        Peace

                                        Q Did you achieve Kundalini awakening through ayahuasca alone or in combination with something else like meditation, yoga etc.? Are you having out of body experiences or astral projection also? Please describe some of the things you have seen with your astral body if you have. Have you communicated with the aliens and the spirits? Can you tell the difference between positive and negative aliens? Have you been able to access the Akashic records yet?

                                        A Meditation, emotional release, ayahuasca, ecstatic dance, cycling, all of these as a unified flow of life. I've had one real out of body experiences and I astral project all the time, awake and asleep, which is actually getting in my way a little these days. The most poignant thing I have seen is a room made of Clear Light where I met my niece and nephew before they came to Earth. I have communicated with the aliens, yes, and spirits, yes. As for whether they are positive or negative, I would say that all are subservient to Allah whatever they do. The primary aliens I have interacted with are the Greys. They are supposed to, according to OpenHand, represent the pain of existence itself. There are aliens with defined form like ourselves, then there are shape-morphing spirits also, amongst many. For instance I have a dark spirit which has been teaching me a lesson about humbling oneself and accepting higher knowledge beyond the individual self. How it manifests is quite something! As for the Akashic records, I don't yet have the capability to walk into it like a library and take my time reading. I get limited access to it as per Allah's will, wisdom. It takes responsibility to use the Akashic information correctly and wisely and that is a lesson I am still learning.

                                        Q What if doing that can turn out to be => the act of associating "Kundalini" with Allah?

                                        A Associating Allah's Ruh with Allah makes little sense to me. Associating one's ego with Allah, yes that's a big issue post-kundalini but that depends specifically on how your awakening goes, how easily you surrender to Allah during the process and allow the healing process to unfold smoothly.

                                        Q Evidence from Quran?

                                        8123 He saw him by the clear horizon.

                                        Direct reference to the total unveiling, the ascent of the Kundalini to the crown whereby Enlightenment occurs. The way of Allah does not change. The meaning has always been this and always will be. That is my understanding, take it or leave it. Read chapter for context - http//quranix.org/81#23

                                        If you learn about Kundalini and study the Quran you will notice that a lot of seemingly symbolic verses become clear and to the point. The information is all there for anyone who wishes to truly see. Again, that is my understanding, take it or leave it.

                                        Also "According to fake experts, kundalini helps attain samadhi."
                                        I have been working with samadhi for years before Kundalini. It's a real state, it is the state where things flow, they come easy. It is the state where you surrender to Allah and do it moment by moment so there is no individual will trying to decide whether to follow Allah's will or not, but rather the state of saying "Yes" continually to Allah. There is Savikalpa Samadhi, Nirvikalpa Samadhi and Sahaja Samadhi, that is in one context. Savikalpa Samadhi is entering the flow state by directed effort, Nirvikalpa Samadhi occurs by Allah's absolute decision and grace and it is Enlightenment and Sahaja Samadhi is the state which occurs if Allah decides to allow one to continue on Earth after Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

                                        "Let some years pass. Then a time will come when body will begin to get affected. I know it will always be sugarcoated by the experts. Here is an example"

                                        The mind, body and heart must merge as one. In my current situation my mind and heart are split and my mind is not talking to my body correctly. So yes, it is indeed affecting my body. If/when I choose to shine the Clear Light towards the body, it heals and restores to normal. After Kundalini is a tremendous healing process, which if you see

                                        As a person does this a very strong discernible light will appear at the end of their personal tunnel of loneliness and pain. And from this light they will begin to experience the first rays of the divine Sun that comes into view as these issues are resolved. Riding on these rays of this divine Sun is a form of love that surpasses anything else one may have encountered. Love that the body can only process through tears. This is called bliss. And it is one of the first invitations of love from the Kundalini that a person can feel as they come out from under the depressive and difficult rough edge polishing that can be experienced at the beginning without any previous expressive conditioning pre-Kundalini.

                                        The power is ferocious. You can feel the fire of Hell breathing against your skin. It's not easy - though it can be easy if you awaken smoothly. It is for those who seek to be tested their utmost in this world, for whom the Kundalini awakens.

                                        Q But, I prefer to talk to Allah (such as when I pray), rather than talking to Kundalini. Why you wanted to change yourself into like that?

                                        A Do you talk to yourself? I'm 100% sure you do. Talking to Kundalini is talking to your perfect Self, the real You. That's all it is.

                                        Q Meanwhile, before you sought that Kundalini, I suppose Allah already bless you more than enough, right?

                                        A I am truly blessed and deeply grateful to Allah in every way. I did not seek Kundalini, I did not even know what Kundalini was until after the entire thing happened from beginning to end. During the process I did not believe in chakras and I thought they were a fairytale invention by people who didn't understand science. How the tables turn! So I was chasing a happy life, a millenial generation life, chasing success, wealth, prosperity, elegance, sophistication and the ability to express the scary side of Life. It's that last one which guaranteed the awakening in my case but all the others were the foundation by which it was given the space to arise.

                                        S As for kundalini, I think "Tazkiyah Tun Nafs" (Purification of the self) points in that direction. Your input would be highly appreciated.

                                        A 100% correct. That is the direction you must look through to understand Kundalini. It is the mechanism by which purification can occur according to the will and dictates of Allah, of the individual Self in surrender to Allah. I understand that I was given Kundalini because I sought ultimate purity, coming from a place of ultimate defilement. Now the tears are beginning to flow and Inshallah a river shall stream forth.

                                        S Being a naas does not guarantee any salvation however. It is only an "awakening" or realization, but it takes developing that spirit.

                                        A Even after awakening Kundalini one must relentlessly pursue spiritual purification. This is the crowning glory of the human being, the total communion with Allah. Even with all this infinite knowledge literally at my fingertips I find myself making silly or stupid decisions out of pride or anger or all sorts of negative traits. These in my understanding are the last vestiges of my childhood trauma surfacing and releasing and being healed inshallah. If you seek for purification then purification is a constant process until death.

                                        peace

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                                          peace
                                          And he has already seen in the clear horizon 8123
                                          Meaning he was enlightened about the truth that there is only one God. It doesn't say kundalini.

                                          And Muhammad is not a withholder of the unseen 8124
                                          Meaning he never concealed all that comes from Allah

                                          And the Qur'an is not the word of a devil, expelled 8125
                                          Meaning it is not satanic.

                                          So where are you going? 8126
                                          Meaning what world are you in fools! It is the reality of the world.

                                          It is not except a reminder to the worlds 8127
                                          For whoever wills among you to take a right course.8128
                                          And you do not will except that Allah wills - Lord of the worlds 8129
                                          This is a reminder that we need to be on the right track because this is what Allah wants us to do.

                                          In brief, like a good scientist, Prophet Muhammad received truth that we must learn to accept.

                                          It has nothing to do with Kundalini. By the way, in the eastern side of the world is performed this way
                                          http//qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1ee32db5f328124f3facb1f604bff465?convert_to_webp=true

                                          No one can become aghori without kundalini. It is actually one of the main requirements.

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