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Sunni, Shiite, Alawi..etc... OR Muslim?

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    Sword
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    Salam Everybody.
    I was born as a sunni. But since I was 16 I dissociated myself from Shafii and did not think that any of the followers of the 4 imams knows really what the difference is.
    I consider myself a muslim only. Not sunni or shiite and I thought that everybody here have the same attitude.
    I am noticing some guys insulting sunnis and others insulting shiites.
    I believe, If we are committed to God alone then we are essentially MUSLIMS ONLY.
    It does not play well to say that "I am a god alone muslim" then say " I am a sunni or shiite"

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      Salaam Sword,

      But why is the label? Does a label prove anything!?

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        Salam Taj,
        I am actually saying that there should be no labels beside "muslim".
        peace

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          Salam Taj,
          I am actually saying that there should be no labels beside "muslim".
          peace

          Sword,
          If it were so why this address to all by Allah including mumins?

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          Those who are mumins, and those who are Jews, and those who are christians and the sabians,- any who is a believer in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

          Allah labels all the categories as self proclaimed in the above verse. May Allah judge us. Amongst the 4 groups mentioned above, only Allah knows who believes in HIM and The last Day and who does Righteousness. So we hope to be adjudged by the Almighty, the Wise-, who amnog us are muslims to be chosen as "muslims" from the above categories. We fear for HIM.

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            Sword
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            salam,

            I personally dont make any judgement about any religious group. I was just disturbed by the fact that some people in this forum insult eachothers sects.

            peace

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              Salaam Sword,

              My question was
              But why is the label? Does a label prove anything!?

              Salam Taj,
              I am actually saying that there should be no labels beside "muslim".
              peace

              I did understand your point, Sword, and I asked why is the label? I meant including the label 'Muslim'! Does a 'Muslim' label prove anything?
              I don't feel good about labeling. We use them to hide behind them, like a shield! To group with others who are 'like us' to form a wall against those whom we (already) judge as different, as LESS! I see a label, by itself, as a maneuver! The one who is labeling himself (with the best of labels to him) is actually judging others indirectly!
              Why not put our defences down and listen to what Allah says

              Pickthall
              Those who avoid enormities of sin and abominations, save the unwilled offences - (for them) lo! thy Lord is of vast mercy. He is Best Aware of you (from the time) when He created you from the earth, and when ye were hidden in the bellies of your mothers. Therefor ascribe not purity unto yourselves. He is Best Aware of him who wardeth off (evil).

              Yusuf Ali
              Those who avoid great sins and shameful deeds, only (falling into) small faults, - verily thy Lord is ample in forgiveness. He knows you well when He brings you out of the earth, And when ye are hidden in your mothers' wombs. Therefore justify not yourselves He knows best who it is that guards against evil.

              Shakir
              Those who keep aloof from the great sins and the indecencies but the passing idea; surely your Lord is liberal in forgiving. He knows you best when He brings you forth from the earth and when you are embryos in the wombs of your mothers; therefore do not attribute purity to your souls; He knows him best who guards (against evil).

              Sher Ali
              Those who shun the grave sins and all indecencies except minor faults. Verily, thy Lord is Master of vast forgiveness. HE knows you well from the time when HE created you from the earth, and when you were embryos in the bellies of your mothers. So ascribe not purity to yourselves. HE knows him best who is truly righteous.

              Taj

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                Sword
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                Hi TAJ. Thank you . I also hope living in a world where there is no lsuch labels. Imagine how beutiful it becomes.

                Habibi Mahdi. Unfortuantely could not find those threads again.
                But it is like "stupid sunni" and other things.
                I dont have a label but I am disturbed. I dont know why. Maybe just becuase I dont like to see such things. It reminds me of many racial stuff against indians and iranians in the Gulf.
                Forget about it.
                Let us close this thread
                Salam

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                  Salaam Sword,

                  Hi TAJ. Thank you . I also hope living in a world where there is no lsuch labels. Imagine how beautiful it becomes.
                  I appreciate your understanding

                  I dont have a label but I am disturbed. I don?t know why. Let us close this thread

                  Before you close this thread, let me just applaud your sensitivity and concern towards fellow humans. Such stuff does hurt. You can?t just see somebody being ridiculed and just stand there watching and doing nothing x Sometimes I would wish I were deaf so as not to hear some racial or sect-related comments, in jokes and talks! But they are everywhere, in all communities, I believe. Don't you think?

                  Taj

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