We have the timing, now we need the METHOD
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I must say being down on ones laurels is brilliant...what does this new idiom mean though? Are you sulking on them or moping? Wait and you've hidden something from the wife? I can see why he needs the laurels now P
Seriously however and as politely as possible (we all know there's a slight chance you'd be offended anyways) What on earth are you talking about!?1
181 and 182 are referring to a man hiding something which he can talk about with only his wife? And this here During times of reprimand/avoidance you are free to discourse with your wives they are to you a protection/tilth and you to them Allah knows how you deceive yourselves and he forgives you, intercourse with them (not sex ,but counsel) and seek what allah has ordained for you consult and permeate until becomes menifestly clear to you good from bad then reprimand yourself from the dissension and do not associate with it and stay busy in your daily affairs within the limits of Allah and approach not thereto??.
is telling us that the times of reprimand/avoidance are the times when a man hides something?! Allah is talking about knowing man will hide things so He forgives him and the man can confide in his wife...and um permeate? So um, flowingly diffuse yourself until good and bad is clear and scold yourself for the arguing/disagreement? Don't argue anymore etc etc. How on earth does this make sense or even relate together? On top of that you say it's from 181 to 188! When 183 introduces a difference. Why not include 190 as well while you're it? It's got fighting. And we had wife a few verses before. We haven't even come to if it's valid from the arabic.
Top Notch,
sorry to have wasted your time, didn't mean to.
And no i am not offended.
brickwall
mind you because of your quistoning , believe it or not, i managed to learn a little more of the quran - which i respect very much, its got some very good advice about living a better life.
peace
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Wish I could say it was a pleasure but no matter, we can always er, permeate...no wait, percolate tomorrow
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That's me, I'm the hand of Thrawn. Anytime.
Seriously though, it does.
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Peace,
Come on guys. Most of us want to have a serious discusssion leading to clarity. This current exchange feels incredibly unhealthy and a waste of energy? Sorry for being harsh.
Dawn.
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Peace,
Come on guys. Most of us want to have a serious discusssion leading to clarity. This current exchange feels incredibly unhealthy and a waste of energy? Sorry for being harsh.
Dawn.
I take it you haven't read the other threads in the section? Please do so. This thread does contain clarity of a serious nature that is quite healthy. Of course, not everyone will see it that way.
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Peace,
Come on guys. Most of us want to have a serious discusssion leading to clarity. This current exchange feels incredibly unhealthy and a waste of energy?
Dawn.
Peace dawn,
How so ? The discussion seems pretty serious and fruitful the way I see it.
You're always welcome to show us how it's done. )
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Peace Jack,
I personally haven't learned anything from the exchanges between Carrot and 357. Perhaps I haven't been understanding, but it does feel a little bit like they are having a go at each other. Anyway, my bad. As a non Arabic speaking person, I am keen to learn whether the abstinence is from food, because, of course, in every English Koran, it tells you to abstain from eating and drinking.
Dawn.
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Peace Jack,
I personally haven't learned anything from the exchanges between Carrot and 357. Perhaps I haven't been understanding, but it does feel a little bit like they are having a go at each other. Anyway, my bad. As a non Arabic speaking person, I am keen to learn whether the abstinence is from food, because, of course, in every English Koran, it tells you to abstain from eating and drinking.
Dawn.
So, because you personally haven't learnt anything from the exchanges it becomes incredibly unhealthy and a waste of energy? I found your post to be incredibly annoying. Was that a bit harsh? Sorry. I should also leave this without any reasoning as to why I found it incredibly annoying.
Since that's not me, here goes...
a) Feeling a little bit like others are having a go at each other is no reason to jump in and call the exchange incredibly unhealthy and a waste of energy. Especially since you admit to a possibility of not understanding. Ask for clarification please.
b) Leaving a comment such as that without any qualifying statements is running the risk of inviting a 'what the heck is her problem' from the people it is directed to amongst other thoughts. Especially if they don't know the poster leaving such a hit and run and when they haven't participated in the thread or know the posters and their histories previously.
c) Most people reading this would realise there was an issue with what 357 brought up. It has since been relatively clarified to those who understand what the implications were amongst other things, which includes me and apparently 357 learnt something, whatever it was. If you didn't get this, should've asked instead of calling it incredibly unhealthy, a waste of energy and lacking in clarity.
d) If we are having a little bit of a go at each other, dude what is it to you that bothers you so much that you had to hit and run calling it incredibly unhealthy and a waste of energy? I know the guy for 7 years, I'm allowed to have a go at him and vice versa...it's my earned right! P It's not as if I'm calling him foul names or whatever which would warrant an incredibly unhealthy label plus a waste of energy. Why should you to tell me how to use my energy anyways? If you must, make sure it involves light sabers or else I'm going to be incredibly annoyed again.
e) Forget it. I could go on mind you, since I'm incredibly annoyed.
Next time, either just ask for clarification or read another thread please that's more suited to what you want to read/see.
And before anyone says it (I know who you are) yes, I'm done with my rant.
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I've read the whole thread.
Could anybody please tell me whether we should fast from food, drink, etc, during a month time from July19/20th till August 17/18th this year? Or is it just 3 days around the full moon?
Thank you gentlemen.
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Here are some different threads on the subject from this category
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9188.0
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8509.0
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602860.0
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602427.0Lots more if you search. Read and see what makes sense to you. Your questions for example have been discussed on the forum before so maybe what you want to know is already out there somewhere. If you have specific questions that need answers after, start a new thread for example.
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Thank you for the links @savage_carrot.
Shall have enough time to read it all before July the 19th? muscle
Or will it bury me in even more confusion and overfeed me with doubts? ???
Is there a simple, healthy answer? sun
Could anybody please tell me whether we should fast from food, drink, etc, during a month time from July19/20th till August 17/18th this year? Or is it just 3 days around the full moon?
Thank you gentlemen.
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Why the hurry? I just keep getting this weird vibe that you want the definitive and all encompassing comprehensive answer...now. And not just in regards to fasting. I'm sorry but understanding a concept, the methodology, the processes/procedures etc to the best of one's ability and then to confirm such needs a certain amount of effort put in and is not a final answer by any means. People have waxed lyrical over the topic as this category is a testament to, go forth and find the answer you think is definitive and comprehensive.
Like I said Read and see what makes sense to you. Your questions for example have been discussed on the forum before so maybe what you want to know is already out there somewhere. If you have specific questions that need answers after, start a new thread for example.
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Yes, you are right!
I also realized lately, since I noticed others besides me as well, here we are, some of us who come to certain knowledge late, then advance a bit, then again slow down, then get confused again, etc, etc, creating some mess with our posts, opinions, and repetitive questions which were already posted by others and sometimes answered too...
I do apologize to everybody and all if I caused any annoyance and boredom with some posts.
Forgive me.
group
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Peace Savage Carrot,
Thank you for your extensive reply. It was very enlightening.
Dawn.
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Yes, you are right!
I also realized lately, since I noticed others besides me as well, here we are, some of us who come to certain knowledge late, then advance a bit, then again slow down, then get confused again, etc, etc, creating some mess with our posts, opinions, and repetitive questions which were already posted by others and sometimes answered too...
I do apologize to everybody and all if I caused any annoyance and boredom with some posts.
Forgive me.
group
Right, that has to officially be the most apologetic post on the forum ever. Congrats, and no worries.
Peace Savage Carrot,
Thank you for your extensive reply. It was very enlightening.
Dawn.
At last, vindicated for the lack of clarity. Yess.And you're welcome.