5:110 Jesus raised the dead??
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Thanks for the replies guys, interesting, according to the different ways to interpret the words it could mean something like Jesus 'awakened the spiritually dead.' But of course there is also the matter of bringing clay birds to life..
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It's an analogy on how Jesus helped his people become a better society.
From lowly dirt and mud on the ground that people stepped on, he picked them up, molded them and breathed life into them, until they could finally flap their wings and fly high up in the sky.
It wasn't some magic show that was only good for a few minutes. It wasn't that kind of miracle. The great things he did were miracles in the sense that he defied social norms and succeeded against all odds.
And this is not exclusive to Jesus and his people. Making the 'blind' see again, removing the taint of sins, and reviving the spiritually and intellectually 'dead' are something that all prophets, messengers, and social reformers do, and are something that could be learned from the Qur'an (1057). It just so happens that when it comes to Jesus, things tend to be described in parables and metaphors.
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It's an analogy on how Jesus helped his people become a better society.
From lowly dirt and mud on the ground that people stepped on, he picked them up, molded them and breathed life into them, until they could finally flap their wings and fly high up in the sky.
It wasn't some magic show that was only good for a few minutes. It wasn't that kind of miracle. The great things he did were miracles in the sense that he defied social norms and succeeded against all odds.
And this is not exclusive to Jesus and his people. Making the 'blind' see again, removing the taint of sins, and reviving the spiritually and intellectually 'dead' are something that all prophets, messengers, and social reformers do, and are something that could be learned from the Qur'an (1057). It just so happens that when it comes to Jesus, things tend to be described in parables and metaphors.
It's not just that Jesus helped his people become a better society, what most of us don't realize is that Jesus the person was indeed just like any other prophet but within him was the Spirit that was of God, and this is why he was given titles like Christ "annointed" or Messiah, so no other prophet was like him, because within him dwelled spirit that was of God and no other prophet had this feature and this becomes very evident by exploring bible and even Quran itself doesn't refute this. So while Jesus was mortal and he was bond by the physics of material world, the indwelling spirit was immortal and above such laws, but one has to still take the verses in the context they are being told. In this case most likely the "raising the dead"is meant to be taken allegorically, for example in Bible Jesus tells the son who want to go to bury his father "let the dead bury their own dead".
And what comes to "when you designed from clay like the form of a bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a bird with My permission" one has to remember that the very same Spirit with the power that belonged to God was dwelling within Jesus, hence he could give life to dead or breath life into something, but nowhere does Jesus proclaim that he is doing this by himself, but infact he many times mentions in bible how he himself cannot do anything but that only true source of power and majesty is the Father.
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I found the only translation which explains the verses, suggesting the literal meaning to be used as a metaphor in place.
Unfortunately it is an image and hence am sending a link where I uploaded the translated meaning.Please see the link
http//postimg.org/image/712g3iokp/Cheers
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http//postimg.org/image/712g3iokp/
Thanks for the pic. It's the English translation of G.A. Parwez' Mafhoom-ul-Qur'an if anyone's interested
https//archive.org/details/ExpositionOfHolyQuranByGAPervaizPublishedByTolueislamI found the only translation which explains the verses, suggesting the literal meaning to be used as a metaphor in place.
Check out Dr Shabbir Ahmed's and Muhammad Asad's translations
http//www.ourbeacon.com/wordpress/?page_id=21
http//muhammad-asad.com/http//quranix.org/3#49
http//quranix.org/5#110 -
The only other translation that came close was from
Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5110 Then God will say, ?O Jesus, son of Mary! Recall My blessings upon you and your mother. I strengthened you with Ruh-ul-Qudus, enabled you to speak eloquently to the people in childhood, and also at the advanced age. I gave you revelation and wisdom including the Torah and the Gospel. Recall that you told them that you would raise them from dust up into the heights of glory, by My leave. You made people see the truth otherwise given to blind following, by My leave. You healed the wounds of inequity on people, by My leave, and you gave a new meaning to life to those who were otherwise no better than dead, by My leave. Recall, how I prevented the Children of Israel from harming you when you came to them with all evidence of the truth. And those who were bent upon denying the truth said, ?This is nothing but clear deception.?I have a question
Those who do not believe in God changing his laws of physics and these miracles-like verses in Quran have been explained as examples and not to be taken literally. I can understand that .
But then why God changed his rule for the people of caves where they slept for hundreds of years or the case of a person who wonder how god create life after death and God made him sleep for exactly 100 years as precisely mentioned in quran and his donkey made to him appear alive again with bones and flesh created in front of his eyes. If these two examples are possible and they clearly defy any logic or laws of physics for a body to remain sleep wthout being decay for so many years and if these verses are miracles then what is wrong in taking the other verses in same fashion.
Am i missing a point?Moreover God also says in Quran that those who die in his casuse, we should not say they are dead and but they are also given food but we dont see them.
Meaning god can change his laws of nature when he wills ? So this means the isra and miraj incident also could have happened????cheers
Thanks for the pic. It's the English translation of G.A. Parwez' Mafhoom-ul-Qur'an if anyone's interested
https//archive.org/details/ExpositionOfHolyQuranByGAPervaizPublishedByTolueislamCheck out Dr Shabbir Ahmed's and Muhammad Asad's translations
http//www.ourbeacon.com/wordpress/?page_id=21
http//muhammad-asad.com/http//quranix.org/3#49
http//quranix.org/5#110 -
The Mi'raj story is not from the Qur'an.
God does not change or break His laws. He doesn't need to.
As for the traveler who was brought back to life after 100 years (2259) or the sleepers of the cave (1825), I can't say I know the answers to that, but you might be interested in what Parwez, Dr Shabbir and Muhammad Asad had to say in their translations (Asad's explanations are in the footnotes, which are easy to miss).
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There are more verses which are hard to believe by logic but at same time I can not just simply accept the translation of Ghulam Ahmed pervez.
For example
http//postimg.org/image/73e70b4zf/I feek knowing quran just because you know arabic language as a foreign langauge is gonna also land you in darkness. One must understand how arabic language was used in the society then in both meanings.
Where do I draw the line ? Most of the holly books portray miracles, angles, jinns, land where man walks side by side with army of animans and understand their language etc etc. Its like in the movie. But then we must believe in them OR we turn to quranists and come up with an explanation that will satisfy us but at same time that explanation may not agree with the knowledge of arabic language in total as to how it was used in the society then.
I am sort of lost...
Cheers
The Mi'raj story is not from the Qur'an.
God does not change or break His laws. He doesn't need to.
As for the traveler who was brought back to life after 100 years (2259) or the sleepers of the cave (1825), I can't say I know the answers to that, but you might be interested in what Parwez, Dr Shabbir and Muhammad Asad had to say in their translations (Asad's explanations are in the footnotes, which are easy to miss).
