Embryology in the Quran? Surah 23:14, NOT scientific Embryologist PZ Myers
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It nowhere explicitly states the forming of bones is a finished process. So the only thing you can get from that verse in Quran is the fact muscle and flesh are attached to the bone. Everything you suggest beyond that is your distortion of quran.
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Become an atheist nonmushrik. You have no scripture. What an emergency.
Salaam
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Embryology in the Quran? Surah 2314, this is NOT scientific at all, Embryologist PZ Myers article at the end
Embryologists today, using millions of dollars of scientific equipment, tell us that that the bones, muscles and flesh form SIMULTANEOUSLY, meaning everything is forming at the SAME TIME.
The Quran however has something else in mind, Surah 2314
"Then we make the embryonic lump into bones, THEN (FA) we clothed the bones with flesh"
"Fakhalaqnal mudghata izaman FA kasawnal izama lahman"
FA in Arabic is a resumption particle, indicating a pause, I'm not impressed.
So clearly muhammads idea was of a baby skeleton, then being clothed with muscles and flesh. How can Muslims not see this?
Embryologist Professor PZ Myers article,
http//scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/11/23/islamic-embryology-overblown-b/Hahaaa... this is funny.
Judging alQuraan with the poor so called embryologists?Spending millions of dollars in the name of research is completely corrupted political game. So be impressed with those things. Even after so much advancement what they know about everything, not even 1%. Those are just theories which will change by times. As initially the astrologers said that sun is still and planets are rotating around it. But it was wrong as per alQuraan and now they say that sun is not still. This is just an example to show you, there are many more examples.
Anyways the aayaat of Allah can be seen and understood only by whom Allah wants. Others are blind on seeing and understanding them.
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
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Peace all
MUST WATCH
PZ MYERS confession BONES FORM FIRST
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4trHH6AuZ0
http//datab.us/k8ZScVDpWS4#Professor Keith Moore, Professor PZ Myers and Embryology in The Qur'an
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Message for those who are questioning Quranic embryology..I mean the Nonmushrik guy
Scream and cry because journal article called Human Embryology and the Holy Quran An Overview exists even within US National Center for Biotechnology Information's library
http//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068791/ps Your PZ Myers guy who seems to be extremist in his field is merely defending his own position with that partial blog article.
A little about him https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZ_Myers
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Wow! Nonmushrik is really wiping the floor with you guys! He is so cool! He makes Islam look like a joke! Nonmushrik is so amazing! He knows so much, so many great points to blow Islam to smithereens! Good work Nonmushrik! I hope this all leads to your immortality!
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Peace all
MUST WATCH
PZ MYERS confession BONES FORM FIRST
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4trHH6AuZ0
http//datab.us/k8ZScVDpWS4#Professor Keith Moore, Professor PZ Myers and Embryology in The Qur'an
Salam/Peace dear brother. This link is sadly not working. Could you give us a working link?
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Message for those who are questioning Quranic embryology..I mean the Nonmushrik guy
Scream and cry because journal article called Human Embryology and the Holy Quran An Overview exists even within US National Center for Biotechnology Information's library
http//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068791/ps Your PZ Myers guy who seems to be extremist in his field is merely defending his own position with that partial blog article.
A little about him https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZ_Myers
The article is published by "International Journal of Health Sciences" a Saudi sunni propaganda site masquerading as science.
https//ijhs.org.sa/index.php/journal
PZ myers is not an extremist. He's spoken out against the new atheist movement
He only attacks religion when it attempts to shut down real science.Here he's having a go at Sam Harris
https//freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/11/26/i-get-email-sam-harris-edition/#ixzz3sd3tO4z5Anyway, there are no scientific theories in the Quran. This idea was first floated by Haroon Yahya who's in jail and then later the Dawah people who have since retracted their position.
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The article is published by "International Journal of Health Sciences" a Saudi sunni propaganda site masquerading as science.
https//ijhs.org.sa/index.php/journal
PZ myers is not an extremist. He's spoken out against the new atheist movement
He only attacks religion when it attempts to shut down real science.Here he's having a go at Sam Harris
https//freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/11/26/i-get-email-sam-harris-edition/#ixzz3sd3tO4z5Anyway, there are no scientific theories in the Quran. This idea was first floated by Haroon Yahya who's in jail and then later the Dawah people who have since retracted their position.
Bold 1 Can modern science be trusted? This video gives us a perspective of "modern science" https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TerTgDEgUE
Bold 2 There is a wordpress about PZ Myers defending a rapist. https//orwelliangarbage.wordpress.com/2015/05/27/pz-myers-blasts-josh-duggar-but-protects-the-child-rapist-on-his-blog/
Bold 3 Wait, since when this is about scientific theories? And Harun is in jail? Wasn't he released?
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Anyway, there are no scientific theories in the Quran. This idea was first floated by Haroon Yahya who's in jail and then later the Dawah people who have since retracted their position.
Quran is a book for guidance on how to live this life and not a book of science. Majority of people do not follow the guidance but waste their time in useless things.
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Quran is a book for guidance on how to live this life and not a book of science. Majority of people do not follow the guidance but waste their time in useless things.
That's materialism for you brother.
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Bold 1 Can modern science be trusted? This video gives us a perspective of "modern science" https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TerTgDEgUE
You are right it can't. The computer you use is not based on science it's witchcraft. It's an illusion from Shaytan. Also if you use any mechanical transport like car, planes etc that's all fake too.
And stop using all medicine or going to doctors instead ask Dr Sheldrake to heal you telepathically.
Vaccines are evil too. Lets bring back small pox, polio and measles.
Bold 2 There is a wordpress about PZ Myers defending a rapist. https//orwelliangarbage.wordpress.com/2015/05/27/pz-myers-blasts-josh-duggar-but-protects-the-child-rapist-on-his-blog/
ok, so if I created a blogpost about you defending a rapist would that make it true.
Isn't it un-quranic to libel someone without evidence.
Bold 3 Wait, since when this is about scientific theories? And Harun is in jail? Wasn't he released?
don't think so.
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peace all,
we also discussed it here..https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609951.0
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You are right it can't. The computer you use is not based on science it's witchcraft. It's an illusion from Shaytan. Also if you use any mechanical transport like car, planes etc that's all fake too.
And stop using all medicine or going to doctors instead ask Dr Sheldrake to heal you telepathically.
Vaccines are evil too. Lets bring back small pox, polio and measles.
ok, so if I created a blogpost about you defending a rapist would that make it true.
Isn't it un-quranic to libel someone without evidence.
don't think so.
Bold 1 Okay, there is no need for you being sarcastic since you didn't like it when i questioned modern science.
Bold 2 But vaccines of chemical usages do cause problems http//dangersofvaccines.com/ https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=zncuOv9VBxw
Bold 3 You did read that article? Didn't you?
Bold 4 You don't think so? OKay but his twitter was active since last month so i am certain that he is not in jail right now.
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Bold 1 Okay, there is no need for you being sarcastic since you didn't like it when i questioned modern science.
When did I not like it. The very foundation of science is to question it. If you prove a well established theory wrong you'll get the Nobel prize.
Let's test you critical thinking skills. The graph below shows that deaths from measles were in decline well before the vaccine was introduced. Therefore we can conclude that the measles vaccine wasn't needed.
http//2.bp.blogspot.com/-RXRGd-_ZFy4/U6IWzEJOe2I/AAAAAAAABCU/eN6Cfc1i-a4/s1600/Measles+Mortality+1900-1984+-+NonLog+Scale.jpg
Why is my conclusion wrong?
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When did I not like it. The very foundation of science is to question it. If you prove a well established theory wrong you'll get the Nobel prize.
Let's test you critical thinking skills. The graph below shows that deaths from measles were in decline well before the vaccine was introduced. Therefore we can conclude that the measles vaccine wasn't needed.
http//2.bp.blogspot.com/-RXRGd-_ZFy4/U6IWzEJOe2I/AAAAAAAABCU/eN6Cfc1i-a4/s1600/Measles+Mortality+1900-1984+-+NonLog+Scale.jpg
Why is my conclusion wrong?
Nobel Prize? Who cares about it. Most important about it is saving innocent lives from bad unnatural stuff.
Plus about this measles vaccine, i found this
From
https//vaccinationdilemma.com/parents-want-the-truth/
Parents want the truth
Have you been led to believe that vaccination was the magic bullet that saved us from the scourges of the past?
This is the most convincing argument made by those who market vaccines to us. Chances are it has influenced your decision at a fundamental, and perhaps even subconscious, level. It certainly did mine.
Many thousands of children in industrialised countries died from measles during the 1800s and early 1900s. The death rate steadily declined from the late 1800s. The following graph shows the decline in Australia from 1870 to 1970. The arrow indicates the point at which measles vaccine was introduced.
http//vaccinationdilemma.com/graphs/Chapter1/Fig1_measles.gif
One thing is clear the vaccine had little if anything to do with the demise of measles as a killer. Why? Because it wasn?t around.
All other infectious diseases of the time, diphtheria, whooping cough, scarlet fever, typhoid fever, etc went through a similar decline during the same period. Some of these diseases had vaccines introduced for them. Others didn?t. Their death rates all declined just the same, over the same period.
https//vaccinationdilemma.com/historical-death-rates-diseases-vaccination.html/
The simple fact is vaccination had little, if anything, to do with the overall decline in deaths from infectious diseases.
In their effort to increase vaccination our trusted health advisors have misinformed us at a fundamental level ? the truth would have done.
Have you been led to believe that being vaccinated means you are protected from getting the disease?
When disease outbreaks occur we tend to think unvaccinated children are the ones who get sick. In my Human Rights hearing a professor from the Royal Childrens Hospital stood by his belief that disease outbreaks only affect unvaccinated children. When asked for evidence he said he didn?t need any because it was a ?fundamental doctrine of holy writ in medicine?.
However, it is not true. In fact, most of the victims of these diseases are those who have been vaccinated for them.
In 1989 the U.S. health department documented 170 measles outbreaks in the country and found that 89% of the victims had been vaccinated for measles. School outbreaks were reported where ALL the victims had been vaccinated.
In the same year a 20 month study of whooping cough in Nova Scotia was published revealing 96% of the victims had been vaccinated for whooping cough.
In Australia in 1996, the South Australian Heath Commission released seven years of data on whooping cough showing 87% of the victims had been vaccinated. More recent Australian data shows the vast majority of children with whooping cough have been appropriately vaccinated.
https//vaccinationdilemma.com/whooping-cough-australian-children-how-many-were-vaccinated
Statistics such as these are normal in the medical literature. Supporters of vaccination provide a simple mathematical explanation for it. Opponents argue we can no longer assume we have useful vaccines.
In addition to this, for ethical reasons, proper clinical trials have not been carried out to establish the value of our vaccination programs.
Vaccination is thought to protect us from disease. The truth is this is questionable.
Have you been led to believe that the chance of being harmed by a vaccine is very remote?
Once again, I was. Vaccination is marketed as one of the safest interventions of medicine. It is said to have an impeccable safety record after being used for decades in the global community.
Opponents point out that the reporting system for collecting the data for these conclusions is so poorly designed that some experts estimate only 1% of negative outcomes from vaccination actually reach the database.
They also point out that a United States Institute of Medicine study concluded that although vaccination is probably responsible for a long list of negative outcomes including blood disorders, infections, paralysis, behavioural problems and death, the frequency of these cannot be estimated due to insufficient research.
The truth is vaccines pose a risk ? one that is yet to be quantified.
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A reason for most of the people ho get diseases being vacinated may be that almost all people are vaccinated, so if there are no people not vaccinnated logically they are not hoing to be sick.
I am not defending one thing or the other and personally I think that today information on science if politically controlled. That is, the freedom of information regarding science is non existent. We get whatever they want to give us, true or false does not matter.
So much for science or not science.
In the same way that "history" is a weapon used to destroy countries by creating remorse and lack of self-esteem, science is also used as a weapon. Of course it is not science, but the instrumentalisation of science, just like history is not history but its instrumentalisation.
In shorthand we are going to be given the truth.
Salaam
