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Embryology in the Quran? Surah 23:14, NOT scientific Embryologist PZ Myers

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    unknownuser
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    Embryology in the Quran? Surah 2314, this is NOT scientific at all, Embryologist PZ Myers article at the end

    Embryologists today, using millions of dollars of scientific equipment, tell us that that the bones, muscles and flesh form SIMULTANEOUSLY, meaning everything is forming at the SAME TIME.

    The Quran however has something else in mind, Surah 2314

    "Then we make the embryonic lump into bones, THEN (FA) we clothed the bones with flesh"

    "Fakhalaqnal mudghata izaman FA kasawnal izama lahman"

    FA in Arabic is a resumption particle, indicating a pause, I'm not impressed.

    So clearly muhammads idea was of a baby skeleton, then being clothed with muscles and flesh. How can Muslims not see this?

    Embryologist Professor PZ Myers article,
    http//scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/11/23/islamic-embryology-overblown-b/

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      Man_of_Faith
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      As much nonsense as there is in the Bible I wonder how you can get hung up on such as that. It is probably the interpretation that is weak for GOD sake as usual.

      The ancient Quran hardly deals in science being spiritually aligned and unworldly.

      Salaam

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        runninglikezebras
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        All that the verse is stating is that flesh is attached to bones as the bones begin to form. Allah says ??then We clothed the bones with flesh.? Allah does not say ?Then we created flesh and clothed the bones with it.?

        Peace

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          That's not what the verse says, don't distort the Arabic text!

          It's clear, even how your distorting it, it's still WRONG!

          Bones, muscle & flesh form at the same time, no pauses, not one after the other!

          Go and say how you presented it to a doctor, they will refute you on the spot.

          The verse is straight shot, allah says he CREATES the embryo bones, THEN (FA) he clothes those embryo bones with flesh, that's wrong.

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            runninglikezebras
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            It nowhere explicitly states the forming of bones is a finished process. So the only thing you can get from that verse in Quran is the fact muscle and flesh are attached to the bone. Everything you suggest beyond that is your distortion of quran.

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              Man_of_Faith
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              Become an atheist nonmushrik. You have no scripture. What an emergency.

              Salaam

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                mmkhan
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                Embryology in the Quran? Surah 2314, this is NOT scientific at all, Embryologist PZ Myers article at the end

                Embryologists today, using millions of dollars of scientific equipment, tell us that that the bones, muscles and flesh form SIMULTANEOUSLY, meaning everything is forming at the SAME TIME.

                The Quran however has something else in mind, Surah 2314

                "Then we make the embryonic lump into bones, THEN (FA) we clothed the bones with flesh"

                "Fakhalaqnal mudghata izaman FA kasawnal izama lahman"

                FA in Arabic is a resumption particle, indicating a pause, I'm not impressed.

                So clearly muhammads idea was of a baby skeleton, then being clothed with muscles and flesh. How can Muslims not see this?

                Embryologist Professor PZ Myers article,
                http//scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/11/23/islamic-embryology-overblown-b/

                Hahaaa... this is funny.
                Judging alQuraan with the poor so called embryologists?

                Spending millions of dollars in the name of research is completely corrupted political game. So be impressed with those things. Even after so much advancement what they know about everything, not even 1%. Those are just theories which will change by times. As initially the astrologers said that sun is still and planets are rotating around it. But it was wrong as per alQuraan and now they say that sun is not still. This is just an example to show you, there are many more examples.

                Anyways the aayaat of Allah can be seen and understood only by whom Allah wants. Others are blind on seeing and understanding them.

                May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                mmKhan

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                  Wakas
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                  Already discussed here
                  http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605144.0

                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                    hafeez_kazi
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                    Peace all

                    MUST WATCH

                    PZ MYERS confession BONES FORM FIRST

                    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4trHH6AuZ0

                    http//datab.us/k8ZScVDpWS4#Professor Keith Moore, Professor PZ Myers and Embryology in The Qur'an

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                      Message for those who are questioning Quranic embryology..I mean the Nonmushrik guy

                      Scream and cry because journal article called Human Embryology and the Holy Quran An Overview exists even within US National Center for Biotechnology Information's library
                      http//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068791/

                      ps Your PZ Myers guy who seems to be extremist in his field is merely defending his own position with that partial blog article.

                      A little about him https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZ_Myers

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                        Wow! Nonmushrik is really wiping the floor with you guys! He is so cool! He makes Islam look like a joke! Nonmushrik is so amazing! He knows so much, so many great points to blow Islam to smithereens! Good work Nonmushrik! I hope this all leads to your immortality!

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                          The_Sardar
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                          Peace all

                          MUST WATCH

                          PZ MYERS confession BONES FORM FIRST

                          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4trHH6AuZ0

                          http//datab.us/k8ZScVDpWS4#Professor Keith Moore, Professor PZ Myers and Embryology in The Qur'an

                          Salam/Peace dear brother. This link is sadly not working. Could you give us a working link?

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                            Rilum
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                            Peace,
                            aha.
                            Peace.

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                              Message for those who are questioning Quranic embryology..I mean the Nonmushrik guy

                              Scream and cry because journal article called Human Embryology and the Holy Quran An Overview exists even within US National Center for Biotechnology Information's library
                              http//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068791/

                              ps Your PZ Myers guy who seems to be extremist in his field is merely defending his own position with that partial blog article.

                              A little about him https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZ_Myers

                              The article is published by "International Journal of Health Sciences" a Saudi sunni propaganda site masquerading as science.

                              https//ijhs.org.sa/index.php/journal

                              PZ myers is not an extremist. He's spoken out against the new atheist movement
                              He only attacks religion when it attempts to shut down real science.

                              Here he's having a go at Sam Harris
                              https//freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/11/26/i-get-email-sam-harris-edition/#ixzz3sd3tO4z5

                              Anyway, there are no scientific theories in the Quran. This idea was first floated by Haroon Yahya who's in jail and then later the Dawah people who have since retracted their position.

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                                The_Sardar
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                                The article is published by "International Journal of Health Sciences" a Saudi sunni propaganda site masquerading as science.

                                https//ijhs.org.sa/index.php/journal

                                PZ myers is not an extremist. He's spoken out against the new atheist movement
                                He only attacks religion when it attempts to shut down real science.

                                Here he's having a go at Sam Harris
                                https//freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/11/26/i-get-email-sam-harris-edition/#ixzz3sd3tO4z5

                                Anyway, there are no scientific theories in the Quran. This idea was first floated by Haroon Yahya who's in jail and then later the Dawah people who have since retracted their position.

                                Bold 1 Can modern science be trusted? This video gives us a perspective of "modern science" https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TerTgDEgUE

                                Bold 2 There is a wordpress about PZ Myers defending a rapist. https//orwelliangarbage.wordpress.com/2015/05/27/pz-myers-blasts-josh-duggar-but-protects-the-child-rapist-on-his-blog/

                                Bold 3 Wait, since when this is about scientific theories? And Harun is in jail? Wasn't he released?

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                                  Anyway, there are no scientific theories in the Quran. This idea was first floated by Haroon Yahya who's in jail and then later the Dawah people who have since retracted their position.

                                  Quran is a book for guidance on how to live this life and not a book of science. Majority of people do not follow the guidance but waste their time in useless things.

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                                    The_Sardar
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                                    Quran is a book for guidance on how to live this life and not a book of science. Majority of people do not follow the guidance but waste their time in useless things.

                                    That's materialism for you brother.

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                                      burhan
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                                      Bold 1 Can modern science be trusted? This video gives us a perspective of "modern science" https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TerTgDEgUE

                                      You are right it can't. The computer you use is not based on science it's witchcraft. It's an illusion from Shaytan. Also if you use any mechanical transport like car, planes etc that's all fake too.

                                      And stop using all medicine or going to doctors instead ask Dr Sheldrake to heal you telepathically.

                                      Vaccines are evil too. Lets bring back small pox, polio and measles.

                                      Bold 2 There is a wordpress about PZ Myers defending a rapist. https//orwelliangarbage.wordpress.com/2015/05/27/pz-myers-blasts-josh-duggar-but-protects-the-child-rapist-on-his-blog/

                                      ok, so if I created a blogpost about you defending a rapist would that make it true.

                                      Isn't it un-quranic to libel someone without evidence.

                                      Bold 3 Wait, since when this is about scientific theories? And Harun is in jail? Wasn't he released?

                                      don't think so.

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                                        imrankhawaja
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                                        peace all,
                                        we also discussed it here..

                                        https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609951.0

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                                          The_Sardar
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                                          You are right it can't. The computer you use is not based on science it's witchcraft. It's an illusion from Shaytan. Also if you use any mechanical transport like car, planes etc that's all fake too.

                                          And stop using all medicine or going to doctors instead ask Dr Sheldrake to heal you telepathically.

                                          Vaccines are evil too. Lets bring back small pox, polio and measles.

                                          ok, so if I created a blogpost about you defending a rapist would that make it true.

                                          Isn't it un-quranic to libel someone without evidence.

                                          don't think so.

                                          Bold 1 Okay, there is no need for you being sarcastic since you didn't like it when i questioned modern science.

                                          Bold 2 But vaccines of chemical usages do cause problems http//dangersofvaccines.com/ https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=zncuOv9VBxw

                                          Bold 3 You did read that article? Didn't you?

                                          Bold 4 You don't think so? OKay but his twitter was active since last month so i am certain that he is not in jail right now.

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