Hello
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Wasalamualaykum, A.W.
Thank you and Ramadhan mubarak!
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Peace everybody,
My name is Indy. I knew about this forum for several years actually but now I decide to join properly. Looking forward to get to know the members. I have never really joined a forum before, so I am excited and pls be patient with me if I dont really know the rules. Happy fasting, btw! Peace. )I started fasting June 1 to get into the mode and today is the first day perhaps that many Muslims have started fasting possibly.
Please feel free to email me at [email protected] to communicate and comment on anything or ask any questions or discuss whatever at all you may be interested in.
I haven't been on this website too much but in a short amount of time I became rather well known because there are just a few regular members, and my frequent posts and the style and trouble that occurred in them led me to become noticeable on here.
Right now the activity going on is a thread where a well respected member known as Pazuzu is trying to tell people the Earth is flat which has caused many to lose respect for him, while those who believe the Earth is flat are coming out together and there are more than a few.
If you're a Muslim, then it should be noted that this website has some particularly odd ideas floating around.
Some of the regular members you'll see are Man of Faith, Wakas, Pazuzu, Armanaziz, and a few other characters.
out of them I'd say Armanaziz is the best representative of relatively straightforward Islam with not too much weirdness involved.
Oh and then there is me of course, but I'm familiar with all religions and take an approach which can be distasteful to some people because it faces the facts and may appear very "negative". There is a secret following though that looks at my posts with some admiration in order to learn and recognizes my familiarity with the Qur'an and other religions and many people have taken the opportunity to email me at [email protected] to ask me questions or talk about things or also private messaging me on here with any issues.
Some of the people on here don't fast or pray, and in most cases might not be considered Muslims at all since their interpretations of things go way off into weirdness.
I pray, I fast, I follow the Qur'an, and I personally don't care much for the Hadith collections, but seeing how some people have become on this website, in many cases I can probably relate more to ordinary Muslims than to people saying extraordinarily weird stuff on here.
That was just a little briefing haha, I hope to hear from you!
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Peace,
Welcome to the forum. welcome
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Thank you, FindingRightPath )
Thank you, FreedomStands for the quite elaborate explanation of who is who in the forum )
How many members are in this forum? And how many are active? Do you know that?I would say I am like you then, I too know quite a lot about other religions. My family consists of many religions.
I pray, fast and definitely do not think that the earth is flatNow, I have to get use to "moving around" in this forum... see you on the other posts, brothers!
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So what I teach is not straightforward, freedomstands?
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Peace IndyJane,
Welcome to the forum handshake
Right now the activity going on is a thread where a well respected member known as Pazuzu is trying to tell people the Earth is flat which has caused many to lose respect for him, while those who believe the Earth is flat are coming out together and there are more than a few.
Peace brother,
Very bad!
It is sad to know that who ever is not in line with your believes are disrespectful. nope
Try respecting other's believes, it needs lot of courage yesMay Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
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So what I teach is not straightforward, freedomstands?
Oh I don't think I thought of that, I think you're very straightforward in what you teach, you have a system and you have the way it works pretty clearly outlined and its easy to follow and understand and believe. I was probably using the term to refer to ordinary mainstream Muslims or the majority of Muslims, who just follow the basic traditions, might not be so much into the Hadith but have a little bit of its influence here and there, and stuff like that. I'm not sure what I said exactly but anyway when it comes to just the general use of the word straightforward you are straightforward, but I might have been using the term to just mean the regular kind of Muslims.
I mentioned that you're one of the main active members here who contributes to many threads, while I take long breaks, I think you remain relatively consistent in your activity here.
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Peace IndyJane,
Welcome to the forum handshake
Peace brother,
Very bad!
It is sad to know that who ever is not in line with your believes are disrespectful. nope
Try respecting other's believes, it needs lot of courage yesMay Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhanYes, if someone doesn't believe as I believe. Think about this You believe what you believe because you think it is right, right? You would be a bit crazy to believe what you believe because you think it is wrong. To follow something you think is wrong would also be kind of stupid, non? So when someone doesn't believe what you believe, they are following something you believe is wrong OR ELSE YOU WOULD BELIEVE IT, right? The capitalization is for emphasis, not yelling at you. THOUGH IT CAN BE FUN TO YELL TOO! So anyway, how can it be said you truly respect the others when you believe what they are saying is wrong, NAY, Ne'e'e'e'e it might be said in fact you RESPECT THEM LESS THAN ME by allowing them to peacefully continue on in the beliefs you believe are wrong without any objection (if you do that).
The most respect, the most love you can have for someone is caring enough to tell them they are actually wrong, and that you believe what they are saying is in fact stupid, and HAD IT NOT BEEN THAT YOU BELIEVED THEY WERE BOTH WRONG AND THUS STUPID you too would have followed and believed what they are saying, and that you ask for WAR, to resolve this issue, a LOVE WAR, where because we care for each other, we will try to convince the other of what we think is right, and if we TRULY HATE ONE ANOTHER, we will let them believe whatever they want and lead themselves into trouble.
So yeah, here is the bottom line
I do and believe what I think is right.
Anyone who does not do and believe what I believe, I think is wrong.
I would do what they do and believe what they believe if I thought it was right.
If I care about them, I would try to make them believe what I believe and do what I do, which I think is right.
If I don't care about them, then I sit back and "respect" their stupid erroneous beliefs until they suffer for it, that is not love.
If they care about me, they will also try to convince me of what they believe is right, and will give up when they don't care about me.
I can never "respect" someone who I think is wrong and thus also stupid and stubborn in their stupidity, it is merely a lie to say that I "respect" them.
Do you understand that?
I have no strong opinion on Pazuzu, I haven't interacted with him enough. Human beings to me are generally worthy of having shock collars put on them and being marched around at my command, but I wish they didn't need the shock collars and would just be wise and listen to me in the first place.
That is the "respect" I have for the humans, which is less than I have for the animals that I love.
Humans are the most disappointing filth I've ever encountered in my life, and that is why I swim all day, so that I'm a fish instead lol.
Let me tell you about what I love. I try to be what I love best, to act in the way I find most lovely and funny and cute and whatever, just to be an adorable person to myself, but I'll tell you what I "respect", though I only see it in myself out in the world.
To be utterly courteous and gracious, merciful and kind in dealings, even when you have no respect whatsoever for the people, or ESPECIALLY when you have no respect for the people and they are even bad in their behavior. I try to live like a beautiful role model of excellence.
I make rough jokes, but I kind of enjoy that, they also serve a purpose of making people think in a more honest way since people are so used to lying to themselves about everything, they might need a little push into the dark side of their minds.
For example, I like some of the things you say and so I approve of that stuff, but I imagine a better use for you might be that you are restricted to saying only the best things and have these cords attached to your various joints so that I can use you like a marionette. Then let me tell you what I'd do with your body
I'd make you smile, and walk around pleasantly, and be gracious and kind to everyone. If you get sick, I'd make you take the measures to heal yourself. I'd make you do exercise to keep your body (my body, under my control) healthy, I'd make you pretty, and dress you up in the best looking clothes and make you walk tall like a noble person and serene (this is how I myself live and behave), I'd make you notice every opportunity to do something nice for people and animals, to help the worm struggling across the street, to treat the people like animals too and smile at them kindly, offer them help when they seem confused, to pick up flowers you might find and offer them at an opportune time to someone who is likely to accept them and make their day. What an excellent puppet.
Yet, I'm not the puppeteer, and you have a different master, one who sometimes might take a preference making fools out of people and not keeping them utterly beautiful and pleasant. Yet, if you try at least to become a puppet like I'd make you, you would be so proud of yourself too, the Earth being flat or round won't matter anymore, you'll simply bounce up and down on your strings and focus on being utterly lovely and compassionate.
Thank you for reading!
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Peace IndyJane,
Welcome to the forum handshake
Peace brother,
Very bad!
It is sad to know that who ever is not in line with your believes are disrespectful. nope
Try respecting other's believes, it needs lot of courage yesMay Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhanIt doesn't take courage, it takes apathy.
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Thank you, FindingRightPath )
Thank you, FreedomStands for the quite elaborate explanation of who is who in the forum )
How many members are in this forum? And how many are active? Do you know that?I would say I am like you then, I too know quite a lot about other religions. My family consists of many religions.
I pray, fast and definitely do not think that the earth is flatNow, I have to get use to "moving around" in this forum... see you on the other posts, brothers!
100184 total members and out of them only maybe 20 or less are very active in posting, while others are called "lurkers" in forum terminology and they just kind of look at stuff often (and many guests visit here too) but they generally don't post.
I hang out mostly in the trash, and I post almost exclusively in the trash now where I feel it is more free for me to say whatever I'd like to say in whatever way I'd like to say it. I stayed in the trash there when a bunch of my writing was moved there by the moderators, so I never left there.
Please feel free to initiate any communication via email with me. I can also send you a "PM" or "Private Message" over here if you haven't practiced that.
One of the cool functions is you can click my username and then see all the posts I've ever made on this website! There is also a cool function where you can actually go down on the main page and click something to see what the users visiting the website are currently reading!
Eventually, as you post more, that repeated and annoying verification thing will go away, it was pretty frustrating at first, but it is pleasant when it goes away finally. I'd recommend taking lots of opportunities to post so that it goes away quicker (if that is how it works, I'm not totally sure, but I think it stops at a certain number of posts probably).
I don't find the people on this website to be particularly nice, and it might not be the best experience for a first time forum, but you might have lots of fun here too. I got pretty annoyed with the activity on the website because of what kind of stuff was being said on here.
Yeah! I find there to be no major dispute between the various religions if studied carefully and that they can actually all be made compatible on a single ultimate framework, so in a way, besides Muslim, I consider myself authoritative on everything else as well and a genuine Hindu, Buddhist, Zoroastrian, Jew, Christian, and even all those ancient religions which aren't practiced much anymore, even through in Occultist and Satanist! What is great is I can actually communicate to people who preferentially use these various linguistic frameworks and have a great time helping them out within whatever word/concept associations they prefer!
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It doesn't take courage, it takes apathy.
Peace bro,
This reply is good
Sorry brother, I disagree with you on most of what you wrote but I still respect your views.
In your way of writing, yes I agree with mePlease take a look at 4134, 4135 and 4136.
This is my last post on this as I don't want to hijack IndyJane's thread -[
Sorry Indy for using your thread.May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
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Peace bro,
This reply is good )
Sorry brother, I disagree with you on most of what you wrote but I still respect your views.
In your way of writing, yes I agree with mePlease take a look at 4134, 4135 and 4136.
This is my last post on this as I don't want to hijack IndyJane's thread -[
Sorry Indy for using your thread.May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhanHaha thank you, we can make a thread on this in particular in the Trash area where I hang out.
Thank you for your reply and "respecting" my opinions, whatever that means, though if you want to properly respect me, then obey me!
I command that you do only good anyway, so it shouldn't be too much trouble, and I'm so merciful that I will also give you rope in suggesting the Earth is Flat because I really don't care about that as long as you're totally a knightly gentlemanly sort of person who does all sorts of good things, prays, fasts, etc. I don't think believing the Earth is flat is will take you to hell anyway. So do you respect me? What is it that I'm saying which is wrong?
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Freedomstands,
I have noticed I get nowhere with these stubborn minds though unless I finish my reinterpretation and translation of Quran though. People think what I write is "extreme", but they do not hearken unto me when I say ritual salat is just a hoax.
GOD created an illusion (or contradiction) and we live in it and only by eschewing it we can be successful. Your soul is attached to a beast and its instincts are shaytaan. What is hard for people to realize?
Why did GOD do that?
To sift the good souls that GOD gets only the good fruits. It is not hard to understand?
The successful will be rulers in GOD's kingdom while the failures will.. well be doomed to permanency in the flesh. Gehennom means "Attachment to Body" (from root ن literally. Hinduists and Buddhists are correct on that account. It was Middle-Eastern clerics who twisted the story and corrupted the meaning of Gehenna. Hell as a concept did not exist when the Old Testament was written.
I am not sure GOD will even destroy this world as the sectarian account of "Islam" says, but I think we are simply waiting for "GOD's harvest" as when GOD will let the successful rule as GOD is simply the Foundation or Platform so to say and is using worthy representatives.
But the successors are not in body but like angels (malekat).
Be well
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Freedomstands,
I have noticed I get nowhere with these stubborn minds though unless I finish my reinterpretation and translation of Quran though. People think what I write is "extreme", but they do not hearken unto me when I say ritual salat is just a hoax.
GOD created an illusion (or contradiction) and we live in it and only by eschewing it we can be successful. Your soul is attached to a beast and its instincts are shaytaan. What is hard for people to realize?
Why did GOD do that?
To sift the good souls that GOD gets only the good fruits. It is not hard to understand?
The successful will be rulers in GOD's kingdom while the failures will.. well be doomed to permanency in the flesh. Gehennom means "Attachment to Body" (from root ن literally. Hinduists and Buddhists are correct on that account. It was Middle-Eastern clerics who twisted the story and corrupted the meaning of Gehenna. Hell as a concept did not exist when the Old Testament was written.
I am not sure GOD will even destroy this world as the sectarian account of "Islam" says, but I think we are simply waiting for "GOD's harvest" as when GOD will let the successful rule as GOD is simply the Foundation or Platform so to say and is using worthy representatives.
But the successors are not in body but like angels (malekat).
Be well
Well I'd like that anyway, whatever is best.
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"Destroying" the world is just like a reformation of energy/light (nur) anyways.
Be well
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No problem, MMKhan... )
Although now I am getting a little lost.... lol...
Anyway, thanks everyone for the heated... err I men, warm welcome
I'll still "lurk" around a little until I have the courage to really voice my opinion....
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No problem, MMKhan... )
Although now I am getting a little lost.... lol...
Anyway, thanks everyone for the heated... err I men, warm welcome
I'll still "lurk" around a little until I have the courage to really voice my opinion....
Have a great day, everyone!!Peace Indy,
Thanks. And I would like to see your contribution to this forum )
May Allah bless you pr
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Happy lurking!