Are you fasting? if so do you make salat? is salah necessary in ramadan?
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I don't owe you a thing, sir!
Why would you care to hear the opinion of a deluded "flat-earther" in the first place!?
Glad you do, my sister.
Nowhere in the Qurn does G-D attribute "color" to the sky.Be sound.
Did I call you deluded? I don't have much of a strong opinion on you, I'm too full of general hatred to consider you particularly deluded haha.
I don't care what the Qur'an says about the "color" the sky. If the Qur'an said to jump off a bridge, would you do it?
The Qur'an is only useful because it confirms the truth, not the other way around.
If the Qur'an says something wrong then it is to be rejected, we were never asked to behave like blind people when it comes to religion, we follow logic, observation, and whatever else, if something is in accordance with what we comprehend to be true then it is good, and if it isn't then we don't follow it.
That is the difference between senseless people and those who think. If the Qur'an said Jesus is God would you go worshiping Jesus suddenly?
I don't believe in the Qur'an for the sake of the Qur'an, it says true things that are confirmed by all kinds of factors, if it didn't, I wouldn't follow it.
So who cares if "G-d" (why do you do that Jewish thing again?), didn't mention the color of the sky, it is known as blue to the majority.
God didn't mention many things, like the Postal Service or Ipads, they exist though, we make reference to them, Allah even invented them.
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Neither does G-D recruit the deaf/dumb/blind (sheeple).
To you be your judgment, and to me mine.
What is my judgment? I asked you particular questions in that post, it would be kind of you to answer them if possible.
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What is my judgment?
Your dyn!
Aka. your opinion, or view ...I asked you particular questions in that post, it would be kind of you to answer them if possible.
I'm afraid it's not possible.
You've been given enough hints already!
The rest is up to your own mind to discern,
or is it, by any chance, sealed? (625, 26-7, &c.)Goodbye.
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Your dyn!
Aka. your opinion, or view ...I'm afraid it's not possible.
You've been given enough hints already!
The rest is up to your own mind to discern,
or is it, by any chance, sealed? (625, 26-7, &c.)Goodbye.
You're kind of rude. I was asking what you thought my judgment is, not what judgment is. I was asking if you would believe the Qur'an no matter what it said, you didn't answer that. Then you try to say my mind is sealed for some reason? I hope not, but it seemed rude, your whole interaction with me from pretty early on has seemed kind of rude, not sure what your problem might be.
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You're kind of rude.
Candour doesn't = rudeness!
Nonetheless, I can be stern ... or mild.
Depends on whom I'm dealing with.I was asking what you thought my judgment is, not what judgment is.
Ok, my bad!
To you be your judgment, and to me mine.
I was asking if you would believe the Qur'an no matter what it said, you didn't answer that.
Yes! (hopefully)
What G-D's messenger says.
Not what others erroneously think it says!SLM
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Candour doesn't = rudeness!
Nonetheless, I can be stern ... or mild.
Depends on whom I'm dealing with.Ok, my bad!
To you be your judgment, and to me mine.
Yes! (hopefully)
What G-D's messenger says.
Not what others erroneously think it says!SLM
See, that is interesting to me. To me it works the other way around, that we figure out of a person is telling the truth based on what they are saying, if it matches up with our experience of reality or is logically true, and if they are lying then we can figure it out because it doesn't make sense.
You made a statement which appeared to indicate you believed I had some particular judgment, which is why I was asking what you thought it might be, since I wanted to know what I had appeared to give off as my belief or idea or whatever, that is fine though if you don't want to answer that one or don't have an answer for that one. Thank you for answering the Qur'an question though.
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See, that is interesting to me. To me it works the other way around, that we figure out of a person is telling the truth based on what they are saying, if it matches up with our experience of reality or is logically true, and if they are lying then we can figure it out because it doesn't make sense.
Like the earth being flat and stable!?
You made a statement which appeared to indicate you believed I had some particular judgment, which is why I was asking what you thought it might be, since I wanted to know what I had appeared to give off as my belief or idea or whatever, that is fine though if you don't want to answer that one or don't have an answer for that one.
Your (unsound) judgment was
... The Qur'an is only useful because it confirms the truth, not the other way around ...
I can import some previous statements of yours (from other threads) if you wish.
Thank you for answering the Qur'an question though.
You're welcome, sir.
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Freedomstands,
Some people are like that. Do not get yourself changed. Discuss with other people.
I know it may be hard to stop writing people though.
I have myself been a bit hard with people regarding the new discovery I made with Quran and how the faith really looks like. I will calm down and wait if they understand eventually instead and focus on people who want to hear.
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Yes! (hopefully)
I agree, hicham.
It's better to believe in the Qur'an rather than to believe in human's teaching.
I found that the information/lessons from the Qur'an are more reliable and more trustworthy than any other books/writings (even if those come from so called "experts".
For me, the Qur'an is like a replacement of the messenger,
and I feel that the Original Sender of this scripture wants me to follow it and to trust all of the messages in it without any doubt.
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I agree, hicham.
It's better to believe in the Qur'an rather than to believe in human's teaching.
I found that the information/lessons from the Qur'an are more reliable and more trustworthy than any other books/writings (even if those come from so called "experts".
For me, the Qur'an is like a replacement of the messenger,
and I feel that the Original Sender of this scripture wants me to follow it and to trust all of the messages in it without any doubt.
Yet you normally depend on someone's interpretation. They become your teacher anyway. So you have to study what that interpretation said carefully despite that "even if those come from so called "experts""
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Yet you normally depend on someone's interpretation.
STOP SAYING SUCH THINGS.
Do you really know how I learn?
Do you really know? NO, you don't.
You don't even see how I do my study.
And, I don't have to explain the details to you.
But you should know that I do not learn by the method like what you thought.
You don't understand what I meant.
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STOP SAYING SUCH THINGS.
Who are you to say that?
Do you really know how I learn?
Do you really know? NO, you don't.
You don't even see how I do my study.
And, I don't have to explain the details to you.
But you should know that I do not learn by the method like what you thought.
You don't understand what I meant.
I'm curious about your method if it isn't too much trouble, and I won't make fun of you or anything.
Is it that you read and then a thought comes to your mind or heart that explains it to you?
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STOP SAYING SUCH THINGS.
Do you really know how I learn?
Do you really know? NO, you don't.
You don't even see how I do my study.
And, I don't have to explain the details to you.
But you should know that I do not learn by the method like what you thought.
You don't understand what I meant.
When you treat Allah as a proper noun plus a lot of other errors that means you rely on someone's interpretation. You are not alone though for many are the sheep.
Unless you personally reinterpret and decipher the whole Quran anew then you rely on someone's interpretation, even if you learn the mainstream Classical Arabic language skill.
Be well
ps. I saw you had erased a line. I am me.
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@ MoF
So, is it you who have right to define "Allah" for me?
No.
In my opinion, you tried to make me forsake the true message of the Qur'an.
Your "preachings" and how you behave are not even similar like the prophets or messengers.
How could I let myself to follow someone like you?
Let my Creator teaches me by Himself. He should be enough for me.
Stop acting like you're the only one who could "save" people in this world
from following the wrong interpretation.
I'm not going to use your Qur'an interpretation, inshaAllah,
because I'm aware that you're not trustworthy enough for something like that.
I think you even have a horrible obsession
and you're even blind from recognizing your own serious error.
Stop acting like you're "god" or something holy.
Remember that you're a human,
you're not a Deity,
you're not the Creator,
you will never be like Him.
You can't.
Wake up, MoF, you're not God.
I think you have been overpowered by your obsession.
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Your "preachings" and how you behave are not even similar like the prophets or messengers.
How are they not similar? Somewhere you have to deal with all the falsehood in the world. On the matter of behavior I have worked hard on improvement, but somewhere I have to risk hurting someone's feelings/pride to reach through. I have been tinkering on how I can minimize the emotional hurt with people by the choice of words. On a total I have vastly improved my behavior.
People are not countering me peacefully either, so it is a struggle to maintain the balance, but it is generally better to let go of those who simply are out to argue without listening. It is not like I am forced to convince every fool of the Earth.
Stop acting like you're the only one who could "save" people in this world
I am not the only one who can "save the world", but someone has to begin. It is not my fault that I noticed something that no one else did for over thousand years. And that someone has to do something or otherwise that one would not be helpful while knowing the truth.
However, it is a misconception by you and perhaps others that people are forced to adopt the words, but that is because I work on reaching through and there is a little offensiveness perhaps in the approach. The utterances of those who preach are for those who are receptive to listen to them. It is so that the Rabb are waiting for the perfect fruit, not the defect. I think it is better to have the pride hurt than have to experience the "fire".
Wake up, MoF, you're not God.
I am not the Rabb no and I have never claimed it either. I never said I am that and it is only you who could not interpret my words properly. There is only a Oneness in the world and separation of that Oneness is duality and idolatry, meaning one has to exist in that "platform" rather than treating it as separate.
I think you have been overpowered by your obsession.
I am not really obsessed, but determined and I know that this reinterpretation and deciphering work is true and the only way to proclaim that to the world is by highlighting the flaws in what others believe while reinforcing the arguments in the sources that I have. You have not yet even hearkened unto the discovery of the nature of the word Allah but continue to treat that as your Rabb. But then you hearken unto a pathetically bad interpretation of a scripture called Quran by people who had no clue of what they read.
It appears that human bodies always look for something to worship whether it be leaders, scholars, gods or themselves, and this god delusion that you and others are having is only detrimental for you. That means Shaytaan (instincts) have taken the grip over them. Find some self-esteem instead and realize yourself under the "umbrella" of the Rabb (Sustaining Foundation) and delete both your ego and gods altogether and adopt true Oneness instead of the false duality of sectarians.
I said to you before that you should exist in the Rabb, not that you are the Rabb and I never said you should ever be the Rabb. "Be in the Creator and the Creator in you".
But I already predict that you have made up your mind, but perchance one day you shall see.
Echoing in Quran's true interpretation is to act like Allah + desired attribute, but you cannot see it. For one, you do not understand the meaning of 'iman', secondly you do not know or reject what the word Allah means despite every effort.
Be well