After death
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Peace Fusion.
Here is the version from Qoran (Check the verses)
We learn that death is exactly like sleeping; complete with dreams (660, 4046). The period between death and resurrection passes like one night of sleep (2259; 660; 1045; 1621; 1811, 1819, 1825; 3055).
At the moment of death, everyone knows his or her destiny; Heaven or Hell. For the disbelievers, death is a horrible event; the angels snatch away their souls (850, 4727, 791).
Consistently, the Qoran talks about two deaths, the first death took place when we failed to make a stand with God's absolute authority. That first death lasted until we were born into this world. The second death terminates our life in this world (228, 2266, 4011).
However,the Righteous Do Not Really Die. They Go Straight to Heaven
Give good news to those who believe and lead a righteous life that they will have gardens with flowing streams. When provided with a provision of fruits therein, they will say, "This is what was provided for us previously." Thus, they are given allegorical descriptions. They will have pure spouses therein, and they abide therein forever.
Do not think that those who are killed in the cause of God are dead; they are alive at their Lord, enjoying His provisions.
Do not say of those who are killed in the cause of God, "They are dead." They are alive at their Lord, but you do not perceive.
O you who believe, you shall respond to God and to the messenger when he invites you to what gives you life.* You should know that God is closer to you than your heart, and that before Him you will be summoned.
Those who emigrate for the sake of God, then get killed, or die, God will surely shower them with good provisions. God is certainly the best Provider.
They do not taste death therein - beyond the first death - and He has spared them the retribution of Hell.
(At the time of his death) he was told, "Enter Paradise." He said, "Oh, I wish my people knew.
"That my Lord has forgiven me, and made me honorable."The wages of sin is death
But we learn from 8927-30 that God invites the believers' souls "Enter My Paradise."
As for the disbelievers, they know at the moment of death that they are destined for Hell. The angels order them to evict their souls (693), then "snatch their souls" (791).
The Qoran teaches that the disbelievers go through 2 deaths (228 & 4011). They will be put to death - a state of nothingness during which they see Hell day and night in a continuous nightmare that lasts until the Day of Judgment (4046). Hell is not yet in existence (4046, 8923).
Do we think GOD treats the righteous like the wicked? The believers and the disbelievers death are not the same!!!
As far as people are concerned, the righteous "die.Their bodies cease to exists/get buried..." People do not realize that the righteous souls simply leave their bodies, and move on to Paradise.
The verses shown above are self explanatory. They tell us that the righteous die only once - the one death we have already experienced as a consequence of the great feud (3869). In 3626-27, we see the best evidence that the righteous go to Paradise, while other humans are still living on earth. i.e before resurrection.Of course they will also inherit paradise after the resurrection.
Check/cross examine the verses in Qoran.
GOD bless you.
Peace. -
Peace Fusion.
Here is the version from Qoran (Check the verses)
We learn that death is exactly like sleeping; complete with dreams (660, 4046). The period between death and resurrection passes like one night of sleep (2259; 660; 1045; 1621; 1811, 1819, 1825; 3055).
At the moment of death, everyone knows his or her destiny; Heaven or Hell. For the disbelievers, death is a horrible event; the angels snatch away their souls (850, 4727, 791).
Consistently, the Qoran talks about two deaths, the first death took place when we failed to make a stand with God's absolute authority. That first death lasted until we were born into this world. The second death terminates our life in this world (228, 2266, 4011).
However,the Righteous Do Not Really Die. They Go Straight to Heaven
Give good news to those who believe and lead a righteous life that they will have gardens with flowing streams. When provided with a provision of fruits therein, they will say, "This is what was provided for us previously." Thus, they are given allegorical descriptions. They will have pure spouses therein, and they abide therein forever.
Do not think that those who are killed in the cause of God are dead; they are alive at their Lord, enjoying His provisions.
Do not say of those who are killed in the cause of God, "They are dead." They are alive at their Lord, but you do not perceive.
O you who believe, you shall respond to God and to the messenger when he invites you to what gives you life.* You should know that God is closer to you than your heart, and that before Him you will be summoned.
Those who emigrate for the sake of God, then get killed, or die, God will surely shower them with good provisions. God is certainly the best Provider.
They do not taste death therein - beyond the first death - and He has spared them the retribution of Hell.
(At the time of his death) he was told, "Enter Paradise." He said, "Oh, I wish my people knew.
"That my Lord has forgiven me, and made me honorable."The wages of sin is death
But we learn from 8927-30 that God invites the believers' souls "Enter My Paradise."
As for the disbelievers, they know at the moment of death that they are destined for Hell. The angels order them to evict their souls (693), then "snatch their souls" (791).
The Qoran teaches that the disbelievers go through 2 deaths (228 & 4011). They will be put to death - a state of nothingness during which they see Hell day and night in a continuous nightmare that lasts until the Day of Judgment (4046). Hell is not yet in existence (4046, 8923).
Do we think GOD treats the righteous like the wicked? The believers and the disbelievers death are not the same!!!
As far as people are concerned, the righteous "die.Their bodies cease to exists/get buried..." People do not realize that the righteous souls simply leave their bodies, and move on to Paradise.
The verses shown above are self explanatory. They tell us that the righteous die only once - the one death we have already experienced as a consequence of the great feud (3869). In 3626-27, we see the best evidence that the righteous go to Paradise, while other humans are still living on earth. i.e before resurrection.Of course they will also inherit paradise after the resurrection.
Check/cross examine the verses in Qoran.
GOD bless you.
Peace.They seem rather confused in some verses when they wake up and then are exposed to the sight of hell and are asked something like "is this then magic?"
I thought the two deaths was a reference to our not existing before we are born, then our living, then our death, then our living again.
I thought all people agreed to the covenant of "hearing and obeying" and God asking who their Lord is. If death is exactly like sleep, there are many more than two, but any period in which no information is being received is entirely skipped, so if all information is cut off from a person, they aren't experiencing anything and will go right to their next experience from their perspective.
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Peace FreedomStands.
Here are the verses
Death like sleep
660
He is the One who puts you to death during the night, and knows even the smallest of your actions during the day. He resurrects you every morning, until your life span is fulfilled, then to Him is your ultimate return. He will then inform you of everything you had done.Of course if you wake up every morning then you have not ceased to be human hence not departed this life yet hence ...i.e still living the last departure is the death that counts. ( one death)
The disbelievers
4011
They will say, "Our Lord, you have put us to death twice,* and You gave us two lives; now we have confessed our sins. Is there any way out?"Also
1628
The angels put them to death in a state of wronging their souls. That is when they finally submit, and say, "We did not do anything wrong!" Yes indeed. God is fully aware of everything you have done.The believers
4456
They do not taste death therein - beyond the first death - and He has spared them the retribution of Hell.4457
Such is the blessing from your Lord. Such is the great triumph.Also.
1632
The angels terminate their lives in a state of righteousness, saying, "Peace be upon you. Enter Paradise (now) as a reward for your works."Remember "no contradiction in Qoran" in some verses the "nafs" can mean the person/body/..this life and in other verses "nafs" can mean the soul /the real person/spirit... It depends on the context.
GOD bless you.
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Peace FreedomStands.
Here are the verses
Death like sleep
660
He is the One who puts you to death during the night, and knows even the smallest of your actions during the day. He resurrects you every morning, until your life span is fulfilled, then to Him is your ultimate return. He will then inform you of everything you had done.Of course if you wake up every morning then you have not ceased to be human hence not departed this life yet hence ...i.e still living the last departure is the death that counts. ( one death)
The disbelievers
4011
They will say, "Our Lord, you have put us to death twice,* and You gave us two lives; now we have confessed our sins. Is there any way out?"Also
1628
The angels put them to death in a state of wronging their souls. That is when they finally submit, and say, "We did not do anything wrong!" Yes indeed. God is fully aware of everything you have done.The believers
4456
They do not taste death therein - beyond the first death - and He has spared them the retribution of Hell.4457
Such is the blessing from your Lord. Such is the great triumph.Also.
1632
The angels terminate their lives in a state of righteousness, saying, "Peace be upon you. Enter Paradise (now) as a reward for your works."Remember "no contradiction in Qoran" in some verses the "nafs" can mean the person/body/..this life and in other verses "nafs" can mean the soul /the real person/spirit... It depends on the context.
GOD bless you.
Peace.I know about the death like sleep thing, but I'm not totally sure about the dreaming part, though that certainly can be possible and I have no major issue with it really, its just that in normal sleep, there are periods where dreams are not remembered, and there are other aspects of regular sleep that are not included in death, such as breathing, heart beating, whatever else. It is likely a person does go into some sort of dreamlike state shortly before total brain death and then when information ceases if it ceases the person is skipped right to the time they receive information again. I'm not sure about the idea that everyone is dreaming for thousands of years or whatever, but a dream may be included in their experience of sleep, but at other times people do not remember their dreams or have a dreamless sleep, so death is not exactly like sleep in the sense of there being no heartbeat and no breathing or other bodily functions (we assume), but yeah generally everything you said is fine and of no major issue or conflict, I don't have a problem with little things going this way or that.
In my view though I thought the death was before we were born meaning non-existence, then after we die, and then the two living periods as well.
I usually define total death as a cessation of all information, and that a person is only "living" in any sense if they are experiencing information.
No big whoop though, sounds fine.
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Peace FreedomStands.
Fine. Thank you for your replies.
The "dream/nightmare " scenario for the disbelievers is here ( Pharaoh and his followers as example)
4045
God then protected him from their evil schemes, while the people of Pharaoh have incurred the worst retribution.4046
The Hell will be shown to them day and night, and on the Day of Resurrection "Admit Pharaoh's people into the worst retribution."May the Lord save from the continuous nightmare and from the retribution that follows!
GOD bless you.
Peace. -
I think I have already provided the following verses in favor of my arguments earlier, seems my post i hijacked for some other debate -)
Freedom talks about death compared to sleep and then not quite agreeing with thousands of years of dream or sleep. While at least there are two verses in Quran where God tells us about people of cave or the other person riding his donkey, were put to sleep for 100 years plus.
What is the difference in these two examples? people of cave was mentioned as sleep on their ears. while the later exampled was mentioned as death?About the time. I read in quran that God talks about time where his one day is like 1000 or 50k of earth years? what is this relate to?
Also a person may experience information and his day of judgement is when he dies as said by freedom but i disagree because there is a clear process and steps and actions mentioned by God with regard to the actual judgement day for all mankind and jinn. Besides to re-create a scenario of information feeling, we will have issues of what other associated information (people , objects ) around the person will behave like or need to be created as well with precise?
I mean can we travel back in time? I can for example in my brain of knowledge but I have to understand I CAN not change the past?I think God has given an example of this life very clearly and I am really satisfied with this example
"The example of worldly life is but like rain which We have sent down from the sky that the
plants of the earth absorb - from which men
and livestock eat - until, when the earth has taken on
its adornment and is beautified and its people
suppose that they have capability over it, there
comes to it Our command by night or by day, and We make it as a harvest, as if it had not flourished
yesterday. Thus do We explain in detail the signs for
a people who give thought." (10 24)Peace FreedomStands.
Fine. Thank you for your replies.
The "dream/nightmare " scenario for the disbelievers is here ( Pharaoh and his followers as example)
4045
God then protected him from their evil schemes, while the people of Pharaoh have incurred the worst retribution.4046
The Hell will be shown to them day and night, and on the Day of Resurrection "Admit Pharaoh's people into the worst retribution."May the Lord save from the continuous nightmare and from the retribution that follows!
GOD bless you.
Peace. -
Peace Fusion.
Here is the version from Qoran (Check the verses)
We learn that death is exactly like sleeping; complete with dreams (660, 4046). The period between death and resurrection passes like one night of sleep (2259; 660; 1045; 1621; 1811, 1819, 1825; 3055).
At the moment of death, everyone knows his or her destiny; Heaven or Hell. For the disbelievers, death is a horrible event; the angels snatch away their souls (850, 4727, 791).
Consistently, the Qoran talks about two deaths, the first death took place when we failed to make a stand with God's absolute authority. That first death lasted until we were born into this world. The second death terminates our life in this world (228, 2266, 4011).
However,the Righteous Do Not Really Die. They Go Straight to Heaven
Give good news to those who believe and lead a righteous life that they will have gardens with flowing streams. When provided with a provision of fruits therein, they will say, "This is what was provided for us previously." Thus, they are given allegorical descriptions. They will have pure spouses therein, and they abide therein forever.
Do not think that those who are killed in the cause of God are dead; they are alive at their Lord, enjoying His provisions.
Do not say of those who are killed in the cause of God, "They are dead." They are alive at their Lord, but you do not perceive.
O you who believe, you shall respond to God and to the messenger when he invites you to what gives you life.* You should know that God is closer to you than your heart, and that before Him you will be summoned.
Those who emigrate for the sake of God, then get killed, or die, God will surely shower them with good provisions. God is certainly the best Provider.
They do not taste death therein - beyond the first death - and He has spared them the retribution of Hell.
(At the time of his death) he was told, "Enter Paradise." He said, "Oh, I wish my people knew.
"That my Lord has forgiven me, and made me honorable."The wages of sin is death
But we learn from 8927-30 that God invites the believers' souls "Enter My Paradise."
As for the disbelievers, they know at the moment of death that they are destined for Hell. The angels order them to evict their souls (693), then "snatch their souls" (791).
The Qoran teaches that the disbelievers go through 2 deaths (228 & 4011). They will be put to death - a state of nothingness during which they see Hell day and night in a continuous nightmare that lasts until the Day of Judgment (4046). Hell is not yet in existence (4046, 8923).
Do we think GOD treats the righteous like the wicked? The believers and the disbelievers death are not the same!!!
As far as people are concerned, the righteous "die.Their bodies cease to exists/get buried..." People do not realize that the righteous souls simply leave their bodies, and move on to Paradise.
The verses shown above are self explanatory. They tell us that the righteous die only once - the one death we have already experienced as a consequence of the great feud (3869). In 3626-27, we see the best evidence that the righteous go to Paradise, while other humans are still living on earth. i.e before resurrection.Of course they will also inherit paradise after the resurrection.
Check/cross examine the verses in Qoran.
GOD bless you.
Peace.Thank you very much for these ayats brother. These are gems. You should add them to your site.
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Thank you very much for these ayats brother. These are gems. You should add them to your site.
Agreed.
Here is the version from Qoran (Check the verses)
We learn that death is exactly like sleeping; complete with dreams (660, 4046). The period between death and resurrection passes like one night of sleep (2259; 660; 1045; 1621; 1811, 1819, 1825; 3055).
At the moment of death, everyone knows his or her destiny; Heaven or Hell. For the disbelievers, death is a horrible event; the angels snatch away their souls (850, 4727, 791).
Consistently, the Qoran talks about two deaths, the first death took place when we failed to make a stand with God's absolute authority. That first death lasted until we were born into this world. The second death terminates our life in this world (228, 2266, 4011).
However,the Righteous Do Not Really Die. They Go Straight to Heaven
Give good news to those who believe and lead a righteous life that they will have gardens with flowing streams. When provided with a provision of fruits therein, they will say, "This is what was provided for us previously." Thus, they are given allegorical descriptions. They will have pure spouses therein, and they abide therein forever.
Do not think that those who are killed in the cause of God are dead; they are alive at their Lord, enjoying His provisions.
Do not say of those who are killed in the cause of God, "They are dead." They are alive at their Lord, but you do not perceive.
O you who believe, you shall respond to God and to the messenger when he invites you to what gives you life.* You should know that God is closer to you than your heart, and that before Him you will be summoned.
Those who emigrate for the sake of God, then get killed, or die, God will surely shower them with good provisions. God is certainly the best Provider.
They do not taste death therein - beyond the first death - and He has spared them the retribution of Hell.
(At the time of his death) he was told, "Enter Paradise." He said, "Oh, I wish my people knew.
"That my Lord has forgiven me, and made me honorable."The wages of sin is death
But we learn from 8927-30 that God invites the believers' souls "Enter My Paradise."
As for the disbelievers, they know at the moment of death that they are destined for Hell. The angels order them to evict their souls (693), then "snatch their souls" (791).
The Qoran teaches that the disbelievers go through 2 deaths (228 & 4011). They will be put to death - a state of nothingness during which they see Hell day and night in a continuous nightmare that lasts until the Day of Judgment (4046). Hell is not yet in existence (4046, 8923).
Do we think GOD treats the righteous like the wicked? The believers and the disbelievers death are not the same!!!
As far as people are concerned, the righteous "die.Their bodies cease to exists/get buried..." People do not realize that the righteous souls simply leave their bodies, and move on to Paradise.
The verses shown above are self explanatory. They tell us that the righteous die only once - the one death we have already experienced as a consequence of the great feud (3869). In 3626-27, we see the best evidence that the righteous go to Paradise, while other humans are still living on earth. i.e before resurrection.Of course they will also inherit paradise after the resurrection.
Check/cross examine the verses in Qoran.
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