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This is so funny.

You accuse Jafar of being Arab, when he is the number 1 Arab hater in this entire site. And then you use the same incorrectly translated verse that he used to have as his very signature. Can't get more ironic than this.

And fyi, you are both racists.

What is so ironic??? We are hear to learn from each other and not to give sarcastic and rude remarks.

As an Arab he should have known the correct interpretation of the Arabic Quran better than those who are not!

And what racist are you talking about when the Quran already labelled it. And it is a fact. In the first place do you know the history of the ME? Do you know that it was the Arabs who had done so much damage to Islam with their sectarian ideology since 1400 years ago. It was the Arabs who manupulated the Quran with their garbage language in order to cause so much confusion.

Do you know that it was the Arabs who conspired with the British and her allies in order to bring down the Othemani Chaliphate and as such divided the ME, particularly the destruction of the Palestinian people?

And it says A3raabu, not 3arabu. Those are 2 different words believe it or not.

And fyi, the correct spelling is Al A3rabu, the alif with a shadda, so yes the correct meaning is The Arabs, well Jafar is absolutely right and you are absolutely wrong.

Btw please get your facts right before blabbering nonsense!

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Yeah, i can only see a stupid rascal that you are following

Not only you did not comprehend Arabic but also English. See how ignorant you are. Try to spell before reading, it will be easier. and please get a good dictionary place beside.

Torah is not a "Book". No where in the Quran that says Musa received the Torah. This is conjecture from your part. ONL ALLAH can change HIS words. Please read 16101...if you do not understand, please ask, i will try to explain and please dont be an like an empty vassel who makes so much noise, who thinks he know something but in actual fact zero knowledge.

This post by running like donkey opps running like zebra shows how much hadith and tafsir so called "rlz" are still applying. Distorting words, transfer of identification (interchanging the Last Prophet, with Esa and Moses where you feel like it).

Oh yeah he is your idol

Dont give me instruction, i will talk how i like and please dont put words in my mouth, where did i say Quran does not contain one CLEAR. The fact is you a an ignorant obnoxious individual. You think you know the Quran better than anyone else? I challenge you anytime running like donkey!

Apparently, Mr Gallez, "the scholar/Jerry the mouse" who proves that Quran is from Judeo-Nazarene suffers from the viral infection called Islamophobia.

His email is found here http//www.christianophobie.fr/communique/desinformation-le-pere-edouard-marie-gallez-nous-met-en-garde#.ViBUPflViko

I bring this mail because it seems illuminating in relation to projects of attack of NATO in the Middle East, following the "humanitarian" scheme that has been used in Libya. The massacres with bombs with uranium committed in Libya and the dismantling of the country delivers when armed gangs should think about the real goals that are pursued. There, I see an article in Paris Match with photos illustrate the supposed death of many Syrian children in Houla in late May because of shelling by the Syrian army this is only an ultimate deception, that the door Floor-UN has recognized, to justify a new war; seen below what actually happened (...) Violence is endemic in Islam, and my site explains why even the least bad necessarily Islamic government uses violence, the whole mentality is based on submission relations / domination. But something else is the terrorist war organized by Western intelligence services and the transformation of a rule of law in jungle. Pray for our Christian brothers of the East that are more threatened than ever, and our governments are there a big responsibility.
In union, yours very sincerely, P. Edouard-Marie Gallez

His assistant, "the little scholar/Nibbles the mouse" called Olaf has been trying to market his invented product by saying that he just has to do it because Gallez (born in 1957) now is too old to do it himself.

He suffers from a similar infection, but the virus here has more to do with the fear that we Muslims are hiding something, giving him odd discomfort. Here he is at another forum

Hello,
I bring to your attention the work of explanation and extension of the thesis of Edward Marie Gallez I just published https//fr.scribd.com/doc/243467849/Le-grand-secret-de -l-Islam download the file Copy of the 4th cover What is Islam? What does this religion to the preaching of Muhammad? Throughout my reading of the Koran, the biography of Muhammad, discovery Muslim discourses and discussions with my Muslim friends, I was never able to divest myself of an uneasy feeling with respect to that religion. I then tried to learn more about its truth, and therefore on its historical origins. http//www.forum-religion.org/islamo-chretien/le-grand-secret-de-l-islam-selon-edouard-marie-gallez-t31483.html

Mr Olaf was pretty much torn into pieces in the thread when he tried to challenge Muslims with his knowledge

To begin, I want to put you aware that I'm not scholarly or researcher in Islamic theology, I am a simple Muslim who thinks he has the answer to some of your questions, and as said Tahar, I think that it is better to discuss with scholars rather than simple Muslims who do not properly knowledgeable in history, or who do not have the same level of historical science as yours. (A scholar must debate with a scientist). I will put under each answer your questions Existence of the Nazarenes

What about the Messianic Jewish movement that called itself "Nazarenes" (as the Nasara of the Koran), the project was to reclaim Jerusalem, and the sacred place of prostration, the forbidden place of prostration and destroyed as were the ruins of the Temple (masjid al haram), who thought they were chosen by God to rule the world and impose its will, who refused associationism (shirk) and the Christian Trinity, whose creed was "I testify of it that God is one and there is no God besides Him ", who thought that Jews and Christians were wrong because they had falsified their scriptures, but that they, the Nazarenes were the true followers Moses and Jesus? What about the very strange similarity that belief with Islam? (see the work of Ray A. Pritz, especially Edouard-Marie Gallez in Messiah and His Prophet)

It's very illogical what you say, you deluded indirectly that Muslims are the Nazarenes who felt chosen by God, and that '' this strange similarity '' made Islam the former Jewish messianic sect movement, why Muslims choose to appoint Christians 'Nazarene' 'while Muslims believe that Christians' are not chosen by God ''? They could have appointed themselves the Nazarenes, as this sect is the chosen one, the do not you think? This name has nothing to do with what you advance, in fact, the only name that can describe Christians Arabic is Nasara (meaning 'Nazarene', derived from the city Nazareth), Allah has not named Al-Massih (meaning messianic derived from Messiah) as the Nazarenes have not really followed the Messiah Issa son of Mary, and if it were really the case, they would have chosen instead of monotheism Trinity (we can debate the trinity later, it is not the subject). And against Jews, who say the Israelis are the chosen people, Muslims say that only a pious believer can be elected, even here there is no similarity. And let me assure you, there are also Christian scholars who assume the falsification of the Bible, so Muslims are not the only ones to announce. Myth jahilyia

'' Why do archaeologists who worked in Saudi they argue that it was entirely Christian before Muhammad, with churches, monasteries? (see Christian Robin, director of research at CNRS ''
I do not see the purpose of your question, but there were many Christians before Muhammad, and nobody denied their existence (Read the Ashab Al lead story). And archaeological evidence, assert that there were also polytheistic, for example they found a laat status to Al Ta'if https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-l%C4%8 ... Allat.jpg

Why does the Koran he described the polytheists of Mecca as monotheists, Jews or believing in the trinity, ie Christians? See eg s29,61, s31,25, s39,38

I did not understand this question, explains a little more please do Syrian origins ''>

Why do we find evidence of the implementation of Qor?chites in Syria (the ruins of the caravansary of Qor?ichites, the "River Qor?chites&quot and why do-it found none in the region of Mecca? (see Working Ren? Dussaud) ''

I'll answer you with another question Why all the poems found in Saudi Qoreichite is written in the language of the Hejaz region? (Read https//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu%27allaq%C3%A2t)

''> Why the Qur'an he describes the inhabitants of Mecca as fishermen and farmers? How can they grow wheat, dates, olives, grapes, pomegranates in Mecca in the desert? How can lead to pasture their herds of goats, sheep, cows and camels? How can they navigate at sea on their sail boats, and eat freshly caught fish and shellfish? (see Patricia Crone, "How About did the Pagans Quranic make a living?" http//www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/20181949) ''

Uh .. In the Qur'an, the inhabitants of Mecca are not called Mouzari'ne which means farmers, but they are called A'rab meaning Bedouin (Bedouin nomads living designate breeding goats, sheep and cam?lid?s3, primarily in the deserts of Arabia to read https//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9douins)

''> Why study ancient scriptures she shows that Arabs who wrote the Koran (Muhammad's companions according to Muslim speech) did not come from Mecca and Medina, but in Syria? (see Robert Kerr, "The Language of the Koran" https//www.academia.edu/2593422/The_La _the_Koran ...) ''

I do not see the purpose of your question, but Abu Bakr as-siddiq (for example) that was indeed one of the companions of the prophet, was born in Mecca (Read https//fr.wikipedia.org/ wiki / Abou_Bakr_As-Siddiq) Alliance Nazarenes / Arabs, and Temple reconstruction project

''> What about archaeological remains show that Nazarenes have lived in coexistence with Arab Christians in Syria? (see Claudine Dauphin work on the excavations villages Farj and Er-Ramthaniyy? analyzed by EM Gallez in Messiah and His Prophet) ''

Again, I do not see the purpose of your question, but Christians (Nazarenes) and Muslims have always lived in Bilad al-Sham.

''> Why the Koran it says that Nasara friends are Muslims (s5,82) while their enemies are those who practice associationism? '

Enemy of Muslims are those who attack Muslims.

''> Why the Koran he demonstrates the draft conquest of Jerusalem in 614? (see The Great Secret of Islam, p.82 ff) ''

It was a sermon, not a witness. The Qur'an announced before the completion of the conquest.

''> Why the Jews and they were guiding-they accompanied the Arabs during the conquest of Jerusalem in 638? (see testimonies of the Patriarch of Jerusalem and other found by AL Pr?mare in The Foundations of Islam) ''

You estimate that Muslims have a secret relationship with the Jews? The purpose of your question is not very visible ..

''> Why Arabs and Jews together they rebuilt the Temple in Jerusalem in 638? Why could we still see this temple under Muawiya? (see testimonies of the Patriarch of Jerusalem and other found by AL Pr?mare in The Foundations of Islam and witness of the pilgrim Arculf) ''

I do not really know what you mean, but it's that Al Aqsa Mosque was built around 637 by Omar Ibn Al Khattab, and Dome of the Rock (Omar Mosque often called) was built around 691, and this mosque is built by Omar, is named after Omar no Mu'awiya. I have never seen a temple called Muawiya, the testimony of the patriarch are probably false ... It is for me to ask the questions this time Why did the Jews want to destroy the Al Aqsa Mosque? and why they bother Muslims at prayer group every Friday? Reversal of alliance Nazarenes / Arabs

''> Why the Qur'an it is a misinterpretation of the Christian Trinity by stating that it is in Jesus / Mary / God? Does it mean that there was a time when the mother of the word referred to the Holy Spirit, the first evidence that "Muslims" knew the Syriac culture, and that this meaning was lost by an interpretation exclusively Arab community? ''

The verse is clear, it shows that the Holy Spirit is only a messenger of God, and Jesus son of Mary, and is not a deity People of the Book (Christians), no excesses in your religion, nor say of God but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a messenger of God and His Word which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit (of life) coming from Him. So believe in Allah and His messagers.Et say not "Three". Stop! It will be best for you. God is One God. It is too glorious to have a child. To Him belongs all that is in heaven and on earth and God suffices as a Guardian. Quran 4.171 (Surat Annisa, verse 171) Manufacture of Islam and the Muslim speeches

''> Why is there no evidence of the existence of Mecca before 670? Why are the Saudis did they find no trace when they made the tremendous work around the Kaaba? (even as soon as they find the old Arabic inscriptions, they claim it from the rooftops?) ''

Diodorus Siculus made illusion to Mecca in his writings and there were even BC.
For your second question, there were remains of houses of the companions of the Prophets, there was even a controversy for not destroying looks in information .. and reassures me that the black stone has appeared in 670 after mecca
Moreover, even the Bible testifies to the existence of a named valley of Baca (The old name of La Mecca), deserted, rich sources (probably Zamzam). https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakkah '6Lorsqu'ils through the valley of Baca, they make it a place of springs, the early rain also covers blessings . 7Leur force increases during walking, and they come before God in Zion. ... ''

'' '> Why are some texts from the Koran (history of Alexander the Great) did they originate in later texts to 630? ''

Show me these texts and verses.

'' Why the Koran he has as many Jewish stories? ''

It seems that Christian texts spoke only son of Israel, why? As we know, the son of israel, were the Elect of God, God chose them out of many peoples, and it their sent many prophets and Messengers to guide them to the right path, except that the Quran teaches us that have not complied with his orders (like the story of the Golden Calf), and continued to disobey God despite numerous chances which granted the to repent, and have not been grateful despite the many assets they had, the history of the son of israel in the Qur'an is full of lessons, so why they were all cited is to guide and warn us to avoid making the same mistakes.

'' Why God he revealed a false science of embryo development, which is exactly the same as the doctor has written Galen died in the 3rd century, but today's science has showed it was false? (see the work of William Dye, especially Leila Qadr which compiled in the 3 Faces of the Koran written very many external to Muslim tradition the Qur'an is inspired) ''

Why Keith L Moore was the one who explained Embryology in the Qur'an as she was not a Muslim? '' Moore is not a Muslim His goal work with King Abdulaziz University's Embryology Committee has-been critiqued is atheistic grounds by biologist PZ Myers. In 2002, Moore Declined to be Interviewed by the Wall Street Journal on the subject work is de son Islam, Stating That "it's been ten or eleven years since I Was Involved in the Qur'an." '' Source https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_L._Moore Hopefully Keith did not live with Galen, I advise you to look at his lecture which is everywhere on the internet. Again I hope you discuteras embryology with a researcher in embryology and who master the Arabic language. (Zakir Naik had a long discussion with a Christian named Dr. William Campbell, I also advise you to watch this debate that lasted 4 hours)
''> Why only Jewish Christians (and Jews claiming Jesus without necessarily being Christians) have they called Nazarenes (Nasara) in history, and never, ever, other Christians? How is it that the Quran realize this appellation Nasara as he is supposed to have been revealed in a pristine environment of Jewish influence? '

All Christians are Jewish, Christianity is a designation created by the ex-Jews to distinguish themselves from Jews who did not follow Jesus (it is almost the same definition as Christians gave me) Neither Jesus, nor Moses, do you called Christians. And by this, we can deduce that Christianity is a Jewish sect, otherwise there would be no Old Testament in the Bible, do not you agree?
For the second question, I have already explained why in the Qur'an Christians are called Nasara.

There was another person who answered the questions, but Mr Olaf did not post a rebuttal to any of them.

Both of these simply belong to genre of how to prove Islam is false.
Sub genres
Allah is moon God
Muhammad stole the poetry of other Arabs
Quran is actually Syro Armaic<---This is where the two mice belong. I also found out that one of the goals of Mr Gallez is to bring Muslims to catholism. I lost the link of it (

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