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God or Allah. Wich is correct in English

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    runninglikezebras
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    I guess you have no point to make without me giving you the assist to go ad hominem.

    Peace

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      hawk99
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      I guess you have no point to make without me giving you the assist to go ad hominem.

      Peace

      You seem like an intelligent person, so why is the question
      "What is your first language" so difficult for you?

      P.S. It has to do with the discussion

      peace

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        runninglikezebras
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        You seem like an intelligent person, so why is the question
        "What is your first language" so difficult for you?

        P.S. It has to do with the discussion

        peace

        I don't see how it's relevant. I'm sure if you have linguistic proof to bring, my personal background is unnecessary.

        Peace

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          hawk99
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          I don't see how it's relevant. I'm sure if you have linguistic proof to bring, my personal background is unnecessary.

          Peace

          No problem handshake

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            FreedomStands
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            So true.

            Are you running like a zebra? )

            God bless

            Thank you very much!

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              Man_of_Faith
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              How I know hawk99?

              It communicates with authority and can validate itself.

              Be well

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                Man_of_Faith
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                If you present God as a name, it cannot be assigned a definite article in English. It is against grammar rules.

                The AL prefix means "to be such as".

                Be well

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                  FreedomStands
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                  How I know hawk99?

                  It communicates with authority and can validate itself.

                  Be well

                  This is genuinely interesting. Can you explain more about this to me in private or in public? Did some new incident occur recently or is it the other stuff from before, and what are the particular details?

                  You know people will make fun of you for what you say, big deal, I'm a joke too, but I would really like to know about the whole process and interaction.

                  I don't consider you a liar at all, I mean I believe you are experiencing whatever you say you are experiencing, and can hopefully describe it, like what happens, etc.

                  In my case, I write just whatever, I clearly don't think much!

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                    Man_of_Faith
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                    I am fully aware people will insult it. It does not matter. They do not know.

                    The communique has been followed by "paranormal" events and it has put forth prophecies. Everything it says has come true thus so far. It is guiding. It has also answered questions no one but God could have answered.

                    Well, to be called mentally ill is probably going to be common day. It is irrelevant.

                    Be well

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                      FreedomStands
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                      I am fully aware people will insult it. It does not matter. They do not know.

                      The communique has been followed by "paranormal" events and it has put forth prophecies. Everything it says has come true thus so far. It is guiding. It has also answered questions no one but God could have answered.

                      Well, to be called mentally ill is probably going to be common day. It is irrelevant.

                      Be well

                      I believe you 100% and that isn't sarcasm. I'd like to know every detail of what was said or thought, and what was seen, the supernatural events, whatever.

                      I've dealt with other supernatural cases with people (nothing to do with "gimbles" haha) but people dealing with stuff occurring in their lives so I'd love to know more in public or private, I know you told me some at least, but if there was anything new then I'd like to hear about it too. Also I think it can help people better understand here the source of your information really, and some might respect you more, while its doubtful anyone would respect you less for it (because nobody respects your etymology work pretty much since it is not in really close accord with academic standards or modern linguistic conclusions, but you have a few fans there as well).

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                        runninglikezebras
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                        I am fully aware people will insult it. It does not matter. They do not know.

                        The communique has been followed by "paranormal" events and it has put forth prophecies. Everything it says has come true thus so far. It is guiding. It has also answered questions no one but God could have answered.

                        Well, to be called mentally ill is probably going to be common day. It is irrelevant.

                        Be well

                        No disrespect intended on my part either. What matters is what is real to you, not to us.

                        Peace

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                          Farabi
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                          Hi, I dont know have this answered? Im just reading the first post and the last post for the relevancy.

                          My personal faith is, Allah is a name. Ilah mean God, ilahatan mean gods (No capital as english accepted standard), where Robb mean Lord, which mean, the slave owner.

                          As for, is it trouble to call God as exchange of Allah? Nope. Even you're allowed not to do sholat if you're under threatened situation, or worshiping an idol if you're beeing forced. So exchanging Allah to God is acceptable.

                          Say, "Call upon Allah or call upon the Most Merciful. Whichever you call - to Him belong the best names." And do not recite loudly in your prayer or quietly but seek between that an way.
                          Alishro110

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                            Man_of_Faith
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                            Freedomstands,

                            The Holy Spirit was calling not even a month ago. It is more recent than when I have written here before. I was complimented for my wisdom however and it confirmed that which I have been propagating here on the forum as correct.

                            Personally I now have things to do which could be considered more official than previously. The preachings are divinely supported. Even though I knew a lot earlier, I know much more now. The Spirit is in me.

                            Lately I have been turning my attention to another forum because I do not seek to disturb this religion here where my words are not desired.

                            Be well

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                              FreedomStands
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                              Freedomstands,

                              The Holy Spirit was calling not even a month ago. It is more recent than when I have written here before. I was complimented for my wisdom however and it confirmed that which I have been propagating here on the forum as correct.

                              Personally I now have things to do which could be considered more official than previously. The preachings are divinely supported. Even though I knew a lot earlier, I know much more now. The Spirit is in me.

                              Lately I have been turning my attention to another forum because I do not seek to disturb this religion here where my words are not desired.

                              Be well

                              This is great news! Can you tell me in private what that other forum is? I won't bother you there or try to do the sparring business, I want to see though if possible.

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                                good_logic
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                                Peace Man Of Faith.

                                I am now worried about you. As a friend.
                                Please ponder Qoran ,then may be you will realise that you are starting to sound/act like a false prophet.

                                How can one tell the "holy spirit" has called on them?

                                Why would one want to be complimented by others?

                                How would one know the preaching is divinely supported unless they have "Bayinat" .i.e proper evidence from GOD?

                                Also if the preaching is divinely supported,one would not "run away" even if their words are not desired.

                                I hope you take my advice as constructive.

                                GOD bless you.
                                Peace.

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                                  FreedomStands
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                                  Peace Man Of Faith.

                                  I am now worried about you. As a friend.
                                  Please ponder Qoran ,then may be you will realise that you are starting to sound/act like a false prophet.

                                  How can one tell the "holy spirit" has called on them?

                                  Why would one want to be complimented by others?

                                  How would one know the preaching is divinely supported unless they have "Bayinat" .i.e proper evidence from GOD?

                                  Also if the preaching is divinely supported,one would not "run away" even if their words are not desired.

                                  I hope you take my advice as constructive.

                                  GOD bless you.
                                  Peace.

                                  1 Kings 2222-
                                  ""The LORD said to him, 'How?' And he said, 'I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' Then He said, 'You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.' 23"Now therefore, behold, the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and the LORD has proclaimed disaster against you.""

                                  2 Chronicles 1821-
                                  "He said, 'I will go and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' Then He said, 'You are to entice him and prevail also. Go and do so.' 22"Now therefore, behold, the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of these your prophets, for the LORD has proclaimed disaster against you."

                                  Ezekiel 149
                                  "'And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel.

                                  Jeremiah 410
                                  Then I said, "Alas, Sovereign LORD! How completely you have deceived this people and Jerusalem by saying, 'You will have peace,' when the sword is at our throats!"

                                  Jeremiah 614
                                  They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. 'Peace, peace,' they say, when there is no peace.

                                  Jeremiah 615
                                  Are they ashamed of their detestable conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when I punish them," says the LORD.

                                  Jeremiah 1415
                                  Therefore this is what the LORD says about the prophets who are prophesying in my name I did not officially them with warrant, yet they are saying, 'No sword or famine will touch this land.' Those same prophets will perish by sword and famine.

                                  Ezekiel 1410
                                  They will bear their guilt--the prophet will be as guilty as the one who consults him.

                                  Zechariah 133
                                  And if anyone still prophesies, their father and mother, to whom they were born, will say to them, 'You must die, because you have told lies in the LORD's name.' Then their own parents will stab the one who prophesies.

                                  1 Timothy 41
                                  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

                                  1 Timothy 42
                                  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

                                  2 Peter 121
                                  For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

                                  Isaiah 3010
                                  They say to the seers, "See no more visions!" and to the prophets, "Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions.

                                  Jeremiah 1414
                                  Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not warranted them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.

                                  Jeremiah 2326
                                  New International Version
                                  How long will this continue in the hearts of these lying prophets, who prophesy the delusions of their own minds?

                                  New Living Translation
                                  How long will this go on? If they are prophets, they are prophets of deceit, inventing everything they say.

                                  English Standard Version
                                  How long shall there be lies in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies, and who prophesy the deceit of their own heart,

                                  Who intend to make My people forget My name by their dreams which they relate to one another, just as their fathers forgot My name because of Baal?

                                  Luke 171
                                  Jesus said to his disciples "Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come.

                                  2 Peter 21
                                  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

                                  1 John 218
                                  Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

                                  Matthew 715
                                  "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

                                  (I'm a ferocious one on the outside, so don't worry!)

                                  Jeremiah 88
                                  How can you say, ?We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us?? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has twisted it into a lie.

                                  Jeremiah 2316
                                  This is what the LORD Almighty says "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.

                                  Jeremiah 298
                                  Yes, this is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says "Do not let the prophets and diviners among you deceive you. Do not listen to the dreams you encourage them to have.

                                  1 Thessalonians 521
                                  but test them all; hold on to what is good,

                                  Revelation 22
                                  I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.

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                                    Man_of_Faith
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                                    Do not be worried, good logic. You will see I will have power to perform signs.

                                    The interpretation of Quran is one.

                                    I did not ask to be complimented, I was told I was wise, by God. One can figure out it is God when He says things very wise and knowledgeable not possible to be the production of any man and also relaying prophecies that happen to come true to verify the authenticity.

                                    I do not run away. I am still here. But it is better to speak where your words are appreciated first of all. I am not to force people to listen.

                                    Be well

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                                      FreedomStands
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                                      Do not be worried, good logic. You will see I will have power to perform signs.

                                      The interpretation of Quran is one.

                                      I did not ask to be complimented, I was told I was wise, by God. One can figure out it is God when He says things very wise and knowledgeable not possible to be the production of any man and also relaying prophecies that happen to come true to verify the authenticity.

                                      I do not run away. I am still here. But it is better to speak where your words are appreciated first of all. I am not to force people to listen.

                                      Be well

                                      Where is the other website? Maybe don't let all these people know in case they might fool around there making fun of you.

                                      In any case though I totally want to know what God is saying and the whole thing as it goes on.

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                                        Man_of_Faith
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                                        Freedomstands,

                                        You are relaying passages that speak of people who self-proclaimed themselves as prophets and often used it as a political tool. But prophets are followed by some sort of sign and it is God's words and not their own.

                                        Prophet is actually a very poor translation of the Arabic 'nabi' which means something else. Nabi means someone who has taken a step inside or has insight or is acquainted with something. But surely a nabi will be able to relay prophecies because they have the authority and can see things others cannot. What they can do is according to God's will and what their access to powers is. Manipulate the flesh is one power. Visions (insight into the future) is another. But they all hear God although God does not speak with a voice per se. I spoke of symbiosis before. And God said "I am who am I".

                                        Prophesying is a specific ability. It is also possible to determine the future in symbiosis with God. Whatever God accepts.

                                        Actually you are right about many things in your preachings since God has a hand in everything because of its symbiotic nature with the Spirit of man. But only those who grow their Spirit have a part in God's Kingdom, being able to have influence. God is not a dictator. God may ask a question whether you accept something or not. It happens that I was asked "Do you wish Me to move on?" (implying on finding someone else for His business). God does not force things on people although it may be very disadvantageous to say no because you have much to win carrying out God's plans. God also said "You have been honored, do you not see?" Once made a choice (oath) however God will come with such as "I command you", but that is because you are like an employee. Breaking an oath would be very negative, but I made my firm decision without doubting once, desiring to serve God. Disobedience is not good and I have been threatened with the "wrath of God" concerning something.

                                        I have been authorized to communicate with people about this however, using my wisdom.

                                        Of course you might find me crazy. Thing is, it will be shown otherwise.

                                        People will not like what God likes to be conveyed though, stuck in their Pagan religions with a strictly separate image of God. Same problem as always, like with that man Jesus. They did not like when he said "I am in the Father and the Father in me", and so will people not like when I say it. But they ought to be attached to God in union, not idolize Jesus separately from the Father. God is your God and my God, and Jesus' God. And God (Rabb) means something like 'Foundation', or something like platform.

                                        Allah is anyone who is it. "Is such as it". They are by their affinity connected to God, like a network node to the hub because their body is no longer a distraction (interference). And everyone's soul is a mirror of God's in terms of potential, they must just find themselves. If successful they will share the qualities of God, as much as God lets them. God determines everything about that.

                                        Be well

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                                          Man_of_Faith
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                                          Freedomstands,

                                          The other site is still under development.

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