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    good_logic
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    Peace Arman.

    Let us see if the magic spells are still in action?

    Shall we open a can of worms? (Not real worms...)

    How do you spell the initial "N" in surah 68? Where do you find the evidence?

    I will start opening the can...by starting from the opening of the surah...

    I will give my evidence from Qoran that the letter "N" in arabic is spelt " NWN"i.e with 2 "N"! By the way notice I gave you the clue earlier when I mentioned "Jonah" in my post before this one..)

    And Zan-Noon (Jonah, "the one with an `N' in his name&quot, abandoned his mission in protest, thinking that we could not control him. He ended up imploring from the darkness (of the big fish's belly) "There is no god other than You. Be You glorified. I have committed a gross sin."
    There is the evidence the Arabic spelling of "N" is "NWN"(2N). Your normal count 1,2.

    One may claim what about the the other spelling of different letters like "M"...etc, well GOD the author of Qoran has confirmed only "N" for us ,therefore it must be the only exception.

    Anyhow some call this "Ifkun mubeen" ? Not magic!

    GOD bless you.
    Peace.

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      Armanaziz
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      Salamun Alaikum.

      Well then Good Logic, let us wrap up this interesting discussion with a showdown and let the audience decide if it is magic or not!

      Please let me know the count of Nun's (&#1606 in the below verse

      (Al Qur'an 681)

      Let me give you a clue, I count two (2) - out of 16 letters 2 are nun's - one at the beginning and one at the end. So, apply your "normal counting" method and do let us know how many Nun's (&#1606 you count if you are sincere.

      May Allah guide us all to the straight route.

      Regards,
      Arman

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        good_logic
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        Peace Arman

        I count 1,2,3. My evidence how to spell "noon" is here (2187).

        Thank you brother.
        Peace.

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          Armanaziz
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          Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for your applause.

          May Allah help us all differentiate between provocation and guidance.

          Salamun alaikum.

          Arman

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            good_logic
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            Peace Arman.

            May be you would like to see the spelling of "noon"( check your mushaf) 2187

            OK, you may say your "N" in 68 1 is written with only 1 "N"?

            I will say mine in 681 is written with 2"N" ?

            Which is right? Surely both cannot be right?

            So you may be mistaking "pause" for an "applause" from the audience!

            GOD bless you.
            Peace.

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              Armanaziz
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              Salamun alaikum.

              Questioning the spelling of a word is not a problem. But changing the spelling from the universally acknowledged script to fit one's numerology, thereby creating unnecessary debate and confusion among the faithful is a problem.

              Appreciating numeric miracles in Qur'an, as is present in the script that everyone knows as Qur'an, is not a problem. but taking the miracle and using it as an excuse to introduce occult numerology is a problem.

              Calling people to the Book of Allah is not a problem. But twisting the words of GOD and then claiming "This is from GOD" is a problem.

              May Allah guide us all to the straight route.

              Regards,
              Arman

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                good_logic
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                Peace Arman.

                GOD knows that every generation is different from the last one. GOD also knows that HIS scripture is going to be challenged,analysed...etc.

                Science is asking deep questions. GOD knows HIS words are going to be put to the test,put to deep scrutiny...etc.

                "Reason" is fine by HIM. GOD has accounted(Or counted) for this. There is nothing wrong in putting GOD s words to scrutiny.

                "Faith" still exists nowadays ,but it is getting less and less.

                I believe "Reason and Faith" go together. But logic dictates that "checking" is now part of the process of believing.

                GOD has allowed for this. HE accepts the challenge.He has counted the numbers of all things.

                Qoran stands out as GOD s word Why?

                Since God is the Creator of all knowledge, true revelation is scientific and can with stand the challenge of science at all times.

                This test can be applied

                http//www.total-loyalty-to-god-alone.co.uk/is-qoran-the-word-of-god/

                There is nothing wrong in being certain about your belief.

                GOD bless you.
                Peace.

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                  Man_of_Faith
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                  While the letter is pronounced nun, it is still only one letter.

                  It is like saying the letter 'Z' zed is more than one letter. The British name the letter this because it is derived from the letter Zeta in Greek. Swedes call the letter still Z?ta as in the original language. Is the letter more than one letter because of this?

                  Think about it.

                  Be well
                  Emanuel

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                    good_logic
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                    Peace Man Of Faith.

                    Have you read my post?

                    I said it is" spelt" in Qoran with 2 " N", not pronounced!!!!!

                    Look for yourself in your Qoran? (2187).

                    Am I to argue about its spelling in Qoran even if you do?

                    However I agree with you about "Zed" or "Mim" or other letters because "NwN" is an exception ,as shown to us by the author of the Qoran

                    GOD bless you.
                    Peace.

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                      FreedomStands
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                      I'm back!

                      Anyone want to worship Satan?!

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                        Timotheus
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                        Peace FreedomStands.

                        The holy guardian Angel is no other than " Iblees".

                        The magician is then committing 100% shirk.Quote

                        A devotional ritual involving the surrender of the self to the angel should therefore be constructed and performed daily, for the rest of your life, or until instructed otherwise. Note that the surrender must be genuine ? if the relative self or ego doesn?t really want to let go then you are wasting your time. Of course, for most people this does take practice, hence the rather lengthy traditional invocations of the angel such as the one given in the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage.

                        Are you thinking of taking on the "Magicians" next? Or are you thinking of being one?

                        Thanks for the link.
                        GOD bless you.
                        Peace.

                        Yea they Iblees seems real freindly at first, untill he absolutely messes up your mind, misleads you, and you become phycotic.

                        Stay away from Magic/ the Occult.
                        I know from experience just how horrific it can be, I used to Practise it. Praise God he saved me from it

                        Dont even give satan an in, because he will take it.

                        Peace

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