Dahaha does NOT mean ostrich egg in the Quran
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I know the earth ain't a spinning ball.
He is the One who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each swimming in an orbit.
I suggest that you read a little more careful next timeEarth's motion
2788 You see the mountains, you think they are solid, while they are passing by like the clouds. The making of God who perfected everything. He is Ever-aware of what you do.Other translations by different translator from time to time even before the moon landing
http//islamawakened.com/quran/21/33/The Quran taught me to proceed by inquiry (zeteticism), instead of guessing.
Yeah i bet you're doing great on that right there buddy...Zeteticism means believing in facts rather a theory right? Please tell me when did the earth's shape is just a theory?, When did billions of dollars of tax payers went to waste on space research? If you're so confident that the earth is flat why don't you explain to me in detail, or maybe even better, actual proof since you believe in facts(Zeteticism) instead of theory,right? right?
It seems you have failed to provide answers from my previous questions and label them as invalid because you've no idea how to explain your so call fictional flat earth theory...
~ Can you provide one single quranic passage in support of a spinning ball-earth ?
He is the One who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each swimming in an orbit.
The land after that, He made it like an egg.
The Arabic word dahaha comes from root dahy, which means egg.
(Can't believe i'm repeating myself)Majority lives in a bubble ?
But you're not wrong on how we live in a bubble shaped earth though...see right there buddy? You're going somewhere after all!
This supposed to be a valid argument (against the earth being flat) ?!
Go back to sleep !
You're telling me to go back to sleep as if you're telling me to stop believing in reality and dream like you're doing now...
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Sigh* ... dear Lord!
2133 doesn't support a spinning earth! Nor does it give mention of the earth in the first place. Rather, it edifies that each of the two luminaries, the sun and the moon, has an orbit of its own.
No "spinning" earth here, sir!
2788 doesn't say the earth is moving ! For once, you're taking this passage out of context! See 2787 to understand what i'm talking about. Further, al-gibal, lit. means the formations, and stands for landforms (in general). The Quran differentiates between the (flattened) earth/ardh, and the (erected) formations/gibal (that make it fixed/stationary) .... The quranic term for mountain is 'tor' ~ it occurs 11 times in the Writ (10 + tod, a scribal error) ...
No "spinning" earth here, sir!
7930 doesn't say the earth is "egg-shaped" !
You're just parroting sunnis! Heck, there is no such a vb. as "make egg-shaped" !No "spinning egg-earth" here, sir!
Ps. I intentionally said "go back to sleep"
because i want you to do the exact opposite ... it's a matter of ego.Slm
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Alright! Let me then ask you this question What do YOU THINK the verse is referring to?
As I said, I have not studied it in detail, hence slotting in the various possibilities. If you have knowledge that some of those possibilities are not possible, I would be grateful if you were to post such evidence.
If I had to decide what it meant, I'd go with either it referring to hurling/driving the earth with regard to its rotation/motion, or, expanding/spreading with regard to earth volume or habitable land mass.
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Sigh* ... dear Lord!
2133 doesn't support a spinning earth! Nor does it give mention of the earth in the first place. Rather, it edifies that each of the two luminaries, the sun and the moon, has an orbit of its own.
No "spinning" earth here, sir!
2788 doesn't say the earth is moving ! For once, you're taking this passage out of context! See 2787 to understand what i'm talking about. Further, al-gibal, lit. means the formations, and stands for landforms (in general). The Quran differentiates between the (flattened) earth/ardh, and the (erected) formations/gibal (that make it fixed/stationary) .... The quranic term for mountain is 'tor' ~ it occurs 11 times in the Writ (10 + tod, a scribal error) ...
No "spinning" earth here, sir!
7930 doesn't say the earth is "egg-shaped" !
You're just parroting sunnis! Heck, there is no such a vb. as "make egg-shaped" !No "spinning egg-earth" here, sir!
Ps. I intentionally said "go back to sleep"
because i want you to do the exact opposite ... it's a matter of ego.Slm
It seems we have a different interpretation and root words that we use and both of us think that we're right but you seem to reply with such a harsh accusation that i'm parroting simply to fulfill your so called selfish "Ego"
But answer this question using your skillful expertise of your Flat earth theory1.Explain night and day cycles using your flat earth theory
2.Explain why in some region snow and some don't using your flat earth theory
- Explain that if your flat earth theory is correct, and you imagined it as some kind of a plate with an edge then how come no one ever fell out of it like food accidentally falling from a plate...using your flat earth theory
4.What is underneath the flat earth?
- Explain why does a ship disappear when we watch from a afar or seashore,using your flat earth theory
Answer these questions if you're truly confident in your position that the earth truly flat, if you say one more time that these questions are "INVALID" then you've became someone not worth replying to
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Shalom Aleikhem,
But answer this question using your skillful expertise of your Flat earth theory
I'll be his unsolicited solicitor.
1.Explain night and day cycles using your flat earth theory
Possibilities
http//i.imgur.com/lhAnJN1.jpg
http//s9.postimg.org/pc4cbwoxr/flat_earth.jpg
You simply have to ignore
- The speed of light
- The size of the sun
- Oceanography
- Geology
- While we are at it, all of earth science
- Everything we know about how nuclear fission works
- Everything we know about how gravitation works and what it would do to the multiple bodies
- Everything we know about how radiation works and what it would do to the multiple bodies
- Everything we know about optics
- Mathematics cannot be involved anywhere
- Oh and please ignore science altogether
2.Explain why in some region snow and some don't using your flat earth theory
Will of God. (Alternatively "magic"
- Explain that if your flat earth theory is correct, and you imagined it as some kind of a plate with an edge then how come no one ever fell out of it like food accidentally falling from a plate...using your flat earth theory
That's a silly question. Magic happens as you reach the edge and it appears to you as though there is no end. You just come out the other opposite end of the plate. I know you will say now that then it sounds like exactly what to expect if it's a spheroid. But you are just wrong and stupid for not believing in magic.
4.What is underneath the flat earth?
Flat-not earth.
- Explain why does a ship disappear when we watch from a afar or seashore,using your flat earth theory
Because you have poor vision. I know that you will now say that when someone uses telescope, it makes no difference. You still see the ship from bottom-up with the telescope, which can only happen if there is a curvature to the plane. Since this happens everywhere on the planet, you will say that then the entire thing must have a curvature. Based on it having no edges and having curvature, you will conclude that there is no way that this is not a spheroid of some sort. I know you'll make that mistake.
The answer to your problem is this we have optics figured out wrong. Every study on how light works is wrong because I said so. Therefore what you see is not what you get. All you have to do is to simply ignore how light behaves and also basic mathematics.
Peace
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Explain why does a ship disappear when we watch from a afar or seashore,using your flat earth theory
The same reason the sun does.
The eyes' field of vision is finite; anything that continuously moves away from you towards the horizon will eventually vanish from your sight. Our visual perception is subject to the law of perspective.
What is underneath the flat earth?
Try digging.
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Shalom Aleikhem,
I'll be his unsolicited solicitor.Possibilities
http//i.imgur.com/lhAnJN1.jpg
http//s9.postimg.org/pc4cbwoxr/flat_earth.jpg
You simply have to ignore
- The speed of light
- The size of the sun
- Oceanography
- Geology
- While we are at it, all of earth science
- Everything we know about how nuclear fission works
- Everything we know about how gravitation works and what it would do to the multiple bodies
- Everything we know about how radiation works and what it would do to the multiple bodies
- Everything we know about optics
- Mathematics cannot be involved anywhere
- Oh and please ignore science altogether
Will of God. (Alternatively "magic"
That's a silly question. Magic happens as you reach the edge and it appears to you as though there is no end. You just come out the other opposite end of the plate. I know you will say now that then it sounds like exactly what to expect if it's a spheroid. But you are just wrong and stupid for not believing in magic.
Flat-not earth.
Because you have poor vision. I know that you will now say that when someone uses telescope, it makes no difference. You still see the ship from bottom-up with the telescope, which can only happen if there is a curvature to the plane. Since this happens everywhere on the planet, you will say that then the entire thing must have a curvature. Based on it having no edges and having curvature, you will conclude that there is no way that this is not a spheroid of some sort. I know you'll make that mistake.
The answer to your problem is this we have optics figured out wrong. Every study on how light works is wrong because I said so. Therefore what you see is not what you get. All you have to do is to simply ignore how light behaves and also basic mathematics.
Peace
-------------- Student of AllahYeah... i mean...what did science ever done for us anyway? Modern medicine, surgery, public transportation...Screw it! We should all be living in a hut communicating with smoke to our neighbours!!
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The same reason the sun does.
The eyes' field of vision is finite; anything that continuously moves away from you towards the horizon will eventually vanish from your sight. Our visual perception is subject to the law of perspective.
Try digging.
Out of 5 questions you can only answer one bravo... i thought that a man that believes in zeteticism as you claim to be can answer all of the 5 questions above since you guys believe in facts...
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Your 1st question has already been addressed countless times by FET advocates! Look it up! Why insist on me spoon-feeding you when the info u seek is available online for everyone to scrutinize ?! Too lazy to do ur own homework ?! or feigning ignorance ?
2nd question is, with all due respect, brilliant !
3rd question is loaded.
4th & 5th were answered.
Ps. since u've failed to provide quranic evidence in support of ur "spinning Egg-earth" (or "ball" for that matter); i suggest using ur so-called "science" to refute my first argument (19th reply).
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I need to ask a question from flat earthers,,,,
how its possible in a flat earth to trafficking the flights,,,
for a second we assume earth is flat.... flight from china to new york,,,, <==== direction
flight from japan to los angles,,, ====>direction
both flights reached,,, to the destination...
can you plz provide you flighting map who claim that earth is flat,,, and how its work ,,,
if its really flat then after japan the flight should left the boundry of earth isn't it.... y its reach to los angles...
people who are claiming earth is flat they need to hit their head on wall so that their nuts will get tight hahahahttp//free-minds.org/forum/Smileys/default/brickwall.gif -
Your 1st question has already been addressed countless times by FET advocates! Look it up! Why insist on me spoon-feeding you when the info u seek is available online for everyone to scrutinize ?! Too lazy to do ur own homework ?! or feigning ignorance ?
2nd question is, with all due respect, brilliant !
3rd question is loaded.
4th & 5th were answered.
Ps. since u've failed to provide quranic evidence in support of ur "spinning Egg-earth" (or "ball" for that matter); i suggest using ur so-called "science" to refute my first argument (19th reply).
It seems that you've failed to answer my questions
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More like you failing to understand what i said in response to your questions!
It seems like nobody does
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Out of 5 questions you can only answer one bravo... i thought that a man that believes in zeteticism as you claim to be can answer all of the 5 questions above since you guys believe in facts...
Not even that was an answer. You can't even add lenses(telescope) to correct for the deficiency of the eyes and see what his idea would predict you'd see. The guy didn't even get what we were talking about. He thought, AS PER HIS RESPONSE, that we are asking "why does the ship vanish". He totally missed out the part about vanishing FROM THE BOTTOM-UP part of it, which is what gives it away that there is a curvature.
Also that he talks about how we can't see the sun because it is out of our visual range. That is one of the most ignorant statements ever uttered on this forum. He probably believes that we shoot out beams out of our eyes to see. Or may be something similar. I have no idea how given what we know about the sun and it's size and radiation powers, why it's rays would fail to reach us after moving only that little distance! I mean........... REALLY?!?!?!
Don't know if it was here or somewhere else where I asked about this guy's credentials/background. Now I don't need the answer. I can tell that he doesn't even have the basic understanding of high school level physics and mathematics. The level of ignorance demonstrated by some people can be incredibly embarrassing.
Peace
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Don't know if it was here or somewhere else where I asked about this guy's credentials/background. Now I don't need the answer. I can tell that he doesn't even have the basic understanding of high school level physics and mathematics. The level of ignorance demonstrated by some people can be incredibly embarrassing.
From the looks of this forum on how he sh*ts on people who doesn't have the same ideology as he is and how he calls MoF a virgin... it seems that you're right, he's not worth replying to...he's just an internet prick
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607615.10
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Not even that was an answer.
And why would that be?
You can't even add lenses(telescope) to correct for the deficiency of the eyes and see what his idea would predict you'd see.
Actually, it can be verified that the sinking ship effect is due to perspective, using just a camera!
Here's an example.Brother Paz also addressed this here.
The guy didn't even get what we were talking about.
He thought, AS PER HIS RESPONSE, that we are asking "why does the ship vanish".
He totally missed out the part about vanishing FROM THE BOTTOM-UP part of it, which is what gives it away that there is a curvature.Kamen's question was
Explain why does a ship disappear when we watch from a afar or seashore,using your flat earth theory
No "missed part" here, sir !
Just your imagination.
Also that he talks about how we can't see the sun because it is out of our visual range.
That is one of the most ignorant statements ever uttered on this forum.& why would that be ?!
Your lack of understanding perspective ?!
He probably believes that we shoot out beams out of our eyes to see. Or may be something similar. I have no idea how given what we know about the sun and it's size and radiation powers, why it's rays would fail to reach us after moving only that little distance! I mean........... REALLY?!?!?!
Silly you !
Don't know if it was here or somewhere else where I asked about this guy's credentials/background. Now I don't need the answer. I can tell that he doesn't even have the basic understanding of high school level physics and mathematics. The level of ignorance demonstrated by some people can be incredibly embarrassing.
Yes, you did ) here.
You were unable to address my reply and/or (main) argument also!
A simplified version of the arg. can be found in 19th reply (this thread).
SLM
