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    FreedomStands
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    What is this Islam you speak of? Is it a name Abraham used to denote this religion?

    Good question! It is assumed by many people the one the Muslims call Ibrahim was a semitic language speaker. I have no certain knowledge what language he spoke or what word he used. The Qur'an describes something which has taken on the word Islam these days and is generally said to mean "Surrender".

    I give it the longer definition at times, due to some of the common meanings associated with the root word and other implications "realizing peace/relief/healing by complete and utter surrender/submission/acknowledgment of the Truth/Reality (which is that Allah is the only power and cause of everything, the one to fear and the one we rely on willingly or unwillingly always)".

    If anyone in the past had such an understanding, I don't know. If Ibrahim existed or how he existed or what he believed, I don't know. The Mormons for example rudely make a Book of the statements of Abraham and he is constantly talking about "Gods" and the Bible makes him out to be what seems to be a lying pimp. I eschew those things, and I prefer what the Qur'an depicts, the truth of which is moreover in its utility than in its history, the history of which matters little to me compared to its uses for our benefit.

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      If Islam is surrender then every celestial object in this universe is conforming with Islam. The orbits they surrender to, could be said to be their salat. The qualities of their salat can be said to be absolute and perfect. Unconditional, even if it would set them on a course towards self-destruction they will persist.

      How are we as humans supposed to understand this surrender?

      Some say we should surrender to the metaphysical entirely, with the physical being evil by nature. Some say, we have to wait in patience for a messiah to come to announce the judgment which is often spoken of. Others say we should entirely not question those things and trust with conformity to Qurans message we should reserve a spot in what is promised. Then others say, it is all but a metaphor and paradise and hell exist here and now. Others call to arms and say we should kill the infidels right here and now. How do you see this?

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        FreedomStands
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        Now you may notice "peace/relief/healing" was mentioned, as the result of coming to terms with some sort of "truth" generally accepted to be concerning the nature of the Ultimate Reality, that is, what I call God.

        How so? I will teach you the precepts of peace

        The person who is at peace is the one who takes no responsibility for what occurs, and blames everything on God instead.

        So no matter where you are, when you are, what you are doing, how you are doing it, it is accepted to be "the will of God" which does not necessarily mean it is good for you or a good thing at all, but it is the belief that there is truly nothing you can actually do about where you end up being or what ends up happening, even though you clearly are one of the components in the story, none of the components are actually controlling the story, just like the words do not control the author, the author controls the words.

        This is a tactic of feeling a sense of relief and peace. We're never late no matter how late we are. We are always right where we are intended to be by God, whether it is good or bad for us we do not know nor do we comfort ourselves with the idea that it is necessarily good for us, just that its God's doing and God's fault.

        When we dislike something, we blame God for the thing and our disliking too.

        Our mind is constantly turning towards God thus, and we enter a perpetual state of meditative thinking.

        Many people misunderstand this. Haha wow the song I am listening to just said "You're the one who makes me sad" which also the Qur'an says explicitly.

        They think they should be happy all the time, and then they shun anger and other feelings, creating more anxiety for themselves by being anxious about their feeling bad. The hatred, the anger, it is all from Allah, so the person even in their rage is secretly at peace by placing the responsibility on God.

        Whatever misfortune occurs, we turn towards Allah, and whatever good happens, we turn towards Allah again. We feel sick, we turn to Allah, we start crying, Allah, Allah, Allah. "You alone we beseech for help".

        The other method of peace, in relation to this, is the Hatred of God.

        People are greatly disturbed by bad things, as they rightfully should be, and that disturbance they feel is from God as well. The problem they seem to have is coming to terms with the source of all that evil. When one acknowledges it is yet again God who is responsible for it all absolutely, and that nothing can be done about it except whatever we end up doing about it, then one finds another secret peace even in misery and hopelessness.

        Another peace method is to "do what you can do when you can do it, and do not worry about what you can't do when you can't do it" and to know "that whatever you do, good or bad, is the will of Allah, but work towards good if you can and utilize everything you can for your benefit, and eschew harm if you can and when you can".

        Many people create for themselves great anxiety by worrying about things they can do nothing about, and feeling terrible about their difficulties, never acknowledging that Allah is the one who is doing it to them, and Allah does so freely, leading some to harm and some to benefit freely, not being "driven" by anything at all, it is we who are "driven".

        Another path to peace is to meditate on logical necessity and have a clear picture of what is going on. I can skip everyone the trouble of doing that and tell you what is going on

        God is non-information, having no image, is literally like nothing, not a black void like space, nor having any dimensions or size, just totally like nothing except that God can create information, the information is our experiences for example, that is it, there is only God and what God creates, what God creates, God creates every moment, our experiences moment to moment, this is why it is full and total control, there is no time, it is instantaneous generation and destruction of information, which is how anything works and moves.

        Another peaceful meditation is on Surrender, not as giving up, but as surrendering to the plight we are in, that we fight when we fight, we cry when we cry, we laugh when we laugh, and we do what we are made to do happily if Allah wills it, or unhappily if Allah so wills. This also gives us some degree of private peace towards others, knowing that villainous folk are villainous perfectly as Allah intends them to be, but that doesn't make them good, nor does that mean we should not fight them and do our duty in rightness, if rightness is our way as Allah may intend, whatever at all we do or end up doing it is Allah doing it.

        Here is the elimination of all pride in the truest sense, because whatever we are proud of regarding ourselves, Allah created it, and whatever we are not proud of, Allah created it. Literally "all praise belongs to Allah only" and "we did nothing except as Allah willed".

        It is merely acknowledging that no matter how one looks at it carefully, this is the final result of thinking through the whole thing to the very end, and even if it is somehow false, it is indeed the way to attaining private mental peace, even when one is full of rage about everything, there remains this acknowledgment that it is God doing even that! What can we do! Laugh! Cry! Whatever Allah wills!

        For example, Allah has set upon you the task of obsessing about certain things and typing all that you type, same with me, same with Man of Faith. We're all doing our jobs, but some of us may not blame Allah for it all and instead take responsibility for it and their words, thus if any words they speak are admirable to them, they are taking credit and not blaming God for it, whereas all that I've written, it may be good or it may be bad, but it is the creation of Allah from top to bottom, just like me and my appearance and my style and yours.

        Thus I have taught some clear methods of how the statement of "Islam" is pragmatic. When one fully acknowledges their state of total surrender, they achieve a private sense of peace, relief, and healing.

        The other peace is to destroy all lies and unimportant things until you reach the borders and limits, which is only Allah again, and then you surrender. I've written these things before, but people might see me saying them so much that they don't ponder on them much. Honestly, if anyone takes what I say, its for their own benefit, and if they ignore it or act arrogantly towards it, who is losing? Me? Perhaps, but they will only do as Allah bids them to do.

        Another meditation is on how everyone and everything is equal before Allah, Allah is the only power, and everything else is equally just "information" which Allah creates and destroys constantly. In other words "we" are not lasting or important, and Allah is behind it all, and Allah is the only Life that anyone is living. Allah is all alone, we are all empty, dead, and temporary, the moment of "being you a moment ago" is now totally gone and destroyed, you're constantly dying and dead and empty, Allah is the only one alive, any conflict is just Allah talking to Allah, Allah making Allah's art as Allah prefers to make it, both are just empty puppets, if Allah makes one fall it will fall, there is nothing and no one but Allah, we're all the same, we're all alone, we are all one, except that what we believe is just a creation of Allah, and Allah can make us experience anything. So people should not mistake this as "we are all Allah" because Allah does not need any of us, and can create other things, we have no immortality, we are only temporary things, there is no time. The song just said "past and future tense" haha or something. What you were a moment ago is destroyed or else it would exist as your experience right now and there would be no impression of change or progress. Impermanence. The boy you used to be is dead too, and you die and you die because your God is Death itself, you are constantly returning. The song just said "There is much killing to be done".

        I hope you enjoy these methods of peace and learn from them for your own private comfort in all the battles you may face ahead!

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          FreedomStands
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          If Islam is surrender then every celestial object in this universe is conforming with Islam. The orbits they surrender to, could be said to be their salat. The qualities of their salat can be said to be absolute and perfect. Unconditional, even if it would set them on a course towards self-destruction they will persist.

          How are we as humans supposed to understand this surrender?

          Some say we should surrender to the metaphysical entirely, with the physical being evil by nature. Some say, we have to wait in patience for a messiah to come to announce the judgment which is often spoken of. Others say we should entirely not question those things and trust with conformity to Qurans message we should reserve a spot in what is promised. Then others say, it is all but a metaphor and paradise and hell exist here and now. Others call to arms and say we should kill the infidels right here and now. How do you see this?

          Yes, as you said about the orbits, its true.

          Sleep when you are sleepy, eat when you are hungry, when you are grateful thank Allah. When there is war at hand you fight, when there is peace you spread joy.

          We are surrendered to Allah willingly or unwillingly, knowingly or unknowingly. That does not mean we will necessarily be fine not doing anything at all, so instead, in as far as we can try, we should try to work on a strategy of attaining good in this life and the afterlife, taking into account what information is available to us. The strategy is to avoid the worst threat and to cover the most bases. Generally the way to do that is to study the religions, incorporate what is best, eschew what we think is risky, false, or bad, and ask Allah for help. If Allah helps us or not, we've thrown it in "Allah's court", then if we are helped or not, Allah does whatever Allah wills, we pray sincerely that Allah helps and guides us to the right path, even the prayers we utter are from Allah in the first place, anything we do and how we do it and how we see it and how others might see it and everything is from Allah entirely. Its merely that we acknowledge our current state of surrender, and work diligently for our benefit and those we care about besides ourselves as well. All these things can be determined through relatively clear thinking processes and steps, why is compassion useful to promote, why is charity useful, what are the benefits of Salat, and whatever else.

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            https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL5BNgcwYhQ

            "You got to see what we got to see"

            "We got to find we got to find"

            "What you see is what you get"

            "Whether you be glad, sad, or bad"

            Revelation 1310
            "If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity they will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword they will be killed."

            Wow lol the revelation I was talking about and going to get to put here happens to be listed on the front of the website, and I was amazed!

            Today's Ayat for Tuesday, 2015-09-15 / 02 Dhu al-Hijjah 1436

            That it is He Who grants laughter and tears,

            -- an-Najm 5343 as rendered by Bilal Muhammad

            Miracles!

            The song is "Vaporized".

            http//www.islamawakened.com/images/ArticleImages/53-43-bm.jpg

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              Well a gang of disgusting people are trying to ban me from the website again just after I was banned for a month, so please ask your questions quickly if you have any!

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                FreedomStands
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                If any of you view and read the content here, post a comment please. Get beyond this old habit of just lurking around without contributing anything at all! Say something! Say what you think! Say what is on your mind! Say how you reacted to each sentence! This is a forum! It is a place for communication and dialogue!

                You can even post if you're just a guest visiting! Don't be scared! You can also email me at [email protected]. You have nothing to fear! You can post with or without joining the website!

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                  You are an intriguing person, Freedomstands.

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                    FreedomStands
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                    You are an intriguing person, Freedomstands.

                    Thank you! I really appreciate it! You're a handsome person!

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                      Well more of the conspicuous range, but I am an empathetic person in service of the Rabb. But this is how you serve the Father I see?

                      Be safe
                      Emanuel

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                        Though I like your posts and seems logical , yet you seem arrogant and overconfident to many. The problem in that is everybody is afraid to be indoctrinated.

                        231 Successful indeed are the believers;,
                        232 those who humble themselves in their salat (still I don't know what is true meaning of salat here)
                        233 And they avoid vain talk.,
                        234 and who are intent on inner purity;(for zakat)
                        235 and who are mindful of their chastity,
                        238 and who are faithful to their trusts and to their pledges,
                        239 and who guard their prayers (salat)
                        2310 It is they, they who shall be the inheritors

                        Is there anybody behaving arrogantly in their salat? How? How to guard salat?

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                          good_logic
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                          Peace FreedomStands.

                          For me "Islam" is also believing every word GOD says,( after being certain GOD said it).

                          God has warned enough all over Qoran against disbelief, whether it is in the form of idol worship or hypocrisy, when all righteous deeds and efforts would be totally nullified (688, 3965, 917, 321-22, 391, 418, 4145).

                          GOD also clearly warned against the illusion of thinking to be on the straight path while Satan is in action in the background regressing the souls into the darkness of all ignorant practices (18103-106, 358, 1066).

                          Therefore, Qoran, the entire Qoran, not just selected favorite chapters or verses, in its entire context,( if you believe in the entire Qoran) is indeed the manifest and legitimate manual for the sincere who wish to actively and objectively work hard on their souls 9 Be Muslims).

                          You shall disregard those who take their religion in vain, as if it is a social function, and are totally absorbed in this worldly life. Remind with this (Qoran), lest a soul may suffer the consequences of its evil earnings. It has none beside God as a Lord and Master, nor an intercessor. If it could offer any kind of ransom, it would not be accepted. They suffer the consequences of the evil works they earn; ...

                          Then I agree,there should be only GOD, GOD always...Nothing but GOD in your life

                          Your Lord has decreed "The more you thank Me, the more I give you." But if you turn unappreciative, then My retribution is severe.

                          You shall remember Me, that I may remember you, and be thankful to Me; do not be unappreciative.

                          Therefore, you shall glorify God when you retire at night, and when you rise in the morning.
                          All praise is due to Him in the heavens and the earth, throughout the evening, as well as in the middle of your day.

                          Yes indeed,nothing but GOD Alone in your mind

                          They are the ones whose hearts rejoice in remembering God. Absolutely, by remembering God, the hearts rejoice.

                          Therefore, be patient in the face of their utterances, and praise and glorify your Lord before sunrise and before sunset. And during the night glorify Him, as well as at both ends of the day, that you may be happy.

                          Oh yes, happiness is remembering GOD.

                          Who is your GOD? Yes 24/7? Then you may know "Islam"!

                          GOD bless you.
                          Peace.

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            its a love triangle hahahaha....

                            but now lets make it square...

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                              Jafar
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                              I know it might be difficult but pretend for a moment I am the wisest human being who has ever and will ever exist, and ask me the kind of questions you would ask the wisest of the wise in all the Universes and what you really want to know and I'll answer happily!

                              1. How can we travel faster than light? (and still be alive.. physically)
                              2. What is a better way to contain / hold electricity as such our battery (for cellphone, cars and others) could last at least 100X longer from current technology?
                              3. How to generate cheap energy and not polluting the earth?
                              4. Is there a better way for communication other than sending and receiving signal over radio wave? Without any latency and signal loss?
                              5. How many galaxies are there in this universe?

                              That's it for a start.. but I will have many more questions.. Oh great FreedomStands.. the wisest of wisest... the most knowing of all knowledgeable..

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