Your thoughts on deism
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Hi @Fye!
- My Question Would you lash him?
Your answer
-yes that would be the judgement(You agree)
-it is not for us to punish it is for ALLAH to punish(You disagree)
-I'm going to say no(You strongly disagree)
-go to an imam who has pity enough to discipline you(Let someone else do the job)
-Sign some binding contract(=/=Question to my answer)
-Jews still do this they have something called "blood atonement(Again=/=Question to my answer)
Conclusion You're unsure
2.My questionWould you Confine her?
Your answer
-ALLAH's my only friend(You not having friends=/=Answer to my question)
-it's not for us to form an angry mob and march through town with burning torches(Confining doesn't need an angry mob)
-she would have to come out and confess it(She won't)
-we may understand life differently I'm 27(Your age=/=Answer to my question)
-so I have a view you don't I can't simply be grounded or punished(I don't have a perspective=/=Answer to my question)
-I would have to punish myself or sign up for punish(The girl committed fahisha not you)
-if ALLAH wills my punishment it's good for me(The quran punishes through people)
-if I do something and the wait for thunder to strike me goes to long then I know I'm getting it back in the long run or being seized unaware.(You struck by lightning=/=Answer to my question)
-I say this because you used school as an example but when schools done life is always fair everyone still gets what they deserve it's just through different "vehicles" or means.(Life isn't fair=/=Answer to my question)
-if her way of life is islam she would do this to herself(Confining herself to death=suicide=hell)
-then she'll start lying adding to her sin(Lying is sin=/=answer to my question)
-then she'll want to spread the evils of her heart(Her spreading evil=/=answer to my question)
-this is also meantioned in the quran it's a desire of an unbeliever.(Fahisha is desire=/=answer to my question)
-it's very easy to fall out of the bounds of islam(Astray is easy=/=answer to my question)
their are prerequisite to being an Abrahamic monotheist denying certain things can leave you an apostate(Conditions to be a monotheist=/=answer to my question)Conclusion You're unsure
3.My question Would you punish your homosexual friend?
Your answer
-surah nur says to admonish them/warn them(You disagree that you makeup root words)
-this is true again(You agree)
-but they have to submit to punishment(didn't you say that they have to be warned?)
-you can just go pushing people around(You can push people around=/=Answer to my question)
-recall the story of prophet Abraham(Abraham=/=answer to my question)
-we are told not to defame the religion of others(Defaming other religion=/=Answer to my question)
-if he understood he would have sold them more idols LOLZ(Selling idols=/=Answer to my question)
-his people did not have the intelligence to be monotheist(Non-intelegent people=/=answer to my question)
-worshipping things on a whim(Worshipping objects=/=answer to my question)
-wild dedications to the moments they live in(Dedications=/=answer to my question)
-even chastity is to hard for certain people(You can't pop a cherry=/=answer to my question)
-admonish him warn him and see what direction he'll go in,
-will he "stop" being gay after some thought or will he say I wildly dedicate my soul to the fires of hell (Gay people don't say that)
-you can't just stop being gay or doing addictive drugs this is because you've tempered your very will to doing these things(If they can't stop why bother "Warning"
-can you just stop being yourself?(Being yourself is against God=/=answer to my questionConclusion You're unsure
4.Would you let her be punished?
Your answer
-i understand what you mean this is a lashing without pity(You understood)
-I've seen shites pass out from lashings by Saudi police(You're Irish)
-once again you'll have to prove it and with an oath like that it's proof enough(He witnessed it)
-fear aside she has to consent to punishment(She has to punish herself)
I'm not using my freetime to punish adults(You disagree)
we spend a lot of money paying people to do this for us(Let someone else do it)
she can simply choose to ask for the beating signing a contract so she can't sue(Let her punish herself)
she can resist and be marked a rejector of faith,a rejector of truth(Fornicator =/=atheist)Conclusion You're unsure
sorry for long post
A simple yes or no question that you've turned into some kind of an intellectual discussion that i'm not sure of and it seems that you both disagree and agree at the same time as a result of the verses that conflicts with your inner moral value, and deep in you heart you know that it's not right
hey kamen I use the word kafir because it makes me feel more "muslim" lolz.
the quran is my guide and I believe everyone is a kafirYou're a special snowflake
- My Question Would you lash him?
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...i hope i'm a very special snow flake but i'm just saying that thing happen on there own.
you are a kafir you reject the religion of truth you are a rejector of faith. you disbelieve because islam is very believable if you see some part of reality that you don't like you can simply reject it and replace it with falsehood.
i used to be your age your at the age where you go around judging things and saying how they work and what they do and don't do,
just chill don't call me a snowflake unless it's in your deism holy books that i fit the description of a snowflake.
do you even care about going to heaven or hell?or are you just looking for something to say you know so you can be different from your peers.
i did apologize for the depth of the post but just sop this doesn't turn into an argument where you lose power, the power to reject what you see as too challenging, like the cave man (hiding from the sky) verses the man who seeks and discovers.
yes you are a kafir, your an unbeliever steeped in self-glory and separatism you deny ALLAH great god almighty, yet you come to the good people of this forum board and throw out a racial slur. you call a nigeria black man a snowflake?????
your a _____________
please this topic is done find, this is what we all think of deist now, you were the representative of your religion, also ALLAH's curse be upon you.
don't post to me on this topic i refuse to post back