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What is Jannah?

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    It is time to dissect the word that is the goal for Muslims in life hereafter. Traditionally, this word is understood as Garden of Eden or perpetual state of bliss in the life to come after death. Muslim youth are unfortunately dying for it by exploding bomb jackets worn around their wastes. What a pity and misfortune for those who have already died for the illusive garden.

    This analysis is based purely on rules of language.

    1. It is a verbal noun.
    2. Its root, ?Jiim-Nun-Nun?.
    3. Its measure or Wazaan is called The ?Nomina Vicis or nouns that express the doing of an action once?. Arabs indicate this by adding the feminine termination
    4. Please recall formula for Arabic words. It is meanings of the root + meanings of measure or Wazaan that root takes = Meanings of the resultant word.

    So let us apply it and see the result.

    Root ?Jiin-Nun-Nun? meanings = ?he lacked reason or was unsound in intellect? +
    Add meaning of measure which is, ?a noun of an act done once?.

    Hence meanings of word ?action lacking reason once?.

    Hope Muslim youth can just understand this much and no more actions lacking reason.

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      It is time to dissect the word that is the goal for Muslims in life hereafter. Traditionally, this word is understood as Garden of Eden or perpetual state of bliss in the life to come after death. Muslim youth are unfortunately dying for it by exploding bomb jackets worn around their wastes. What a pity and misfortune for those who have already died for the illusive garden.

      This analysis is based purely on rules of language.

      1. It is a verbal noun.
      2. Its root, ?Jiim-Nun-Nun?.
      3. Its measure or Wazaan is called The ?Nomina Vicis or nouns that express the doing of an action once?. Arabs indicate this by adding the feminine termination
      4. Please recall formula for Arabic words. It is meanings of the root + meanings of measure or Wazaan that root takes = Meanings of the resultant word.

      So let us apply it and see the result.

      Root ?Jiin-Nun-Nun? meanings = ?he lacked reason or was unsound in intellect? +
      Add meaning of measure which is, ?a noun of an act done once?.

      Hence meanings of word ?action lacking reason once?.

      Hope Muslim youth can just understand this much and no more actions lacking reason.

      What about the river, fruits and reclining bed and young servant?

      Are they all gone?

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        It is time to dissect the word that is the goal for Muslims in life hereafter. Traditionally, this word is understood as Garden of Eden or perpetual state of bliss in the life to come after death. Muslim youth are unfortunately dying for it by exploding bomb jackets worn around their wastes. What a pity and misfortune for those who have already died for the illusive garden.

        This analysis is based purely on rules of language.

        1. It is a verbal noun.
        2. Its root, ?Jiim-Nun-Nun?.
        3. Its measure or Wazaan is called The ?Nomina Vicis or nouns that express the doing of an action once?. Arabs indicate this by adding the feminine termination
        4. Please recall formula for Arabic words. It is meanings of the root + meanings of measure or Wazaan that root takes = Meanings of the resultant word.

        So let us apply it and see the result.

        Root ?Jiin-Nun-Nun? meanings = ?he lacked reason or was unsound in intellect? +
        Add meaning of measure which is, ?a noun of an act done once?.

        Hence meanings of word ?action lacking reason once?.

        Hope Muslim youth can just understand this much and no more actions lacking reason.

        The meaning of the root J-n-n is not be unsound of reason, but to cover, conceal, hide, veil....

        The madness meaaning comes for the II verb form, j-nn-n of the root with the meaning of "covering, veiling reason".

        I do not doubt of the usefullness of making it obvious for would be deluded that they are doing something mad, but for the sake of precision J-n-n basicmeaaning is that cover, veil, conceal, and the janna, garden means that, something, concealed, shaded, where people or whatever are hidden from the looks or doings of those outside.

        Salaam

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          bkanwar2
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          What about the river, fruits and reclining bed and young servant?

          Are they all gone?

          All that elaborate description of Garden of bliss is someone's figment of imagination. Added to the meanings of four letter word. The basic root meanings as huruf pointed out correctly has no indication towards a meaning of garden. All the meanings of Garden with flowing milk canals, hooris and etc were added as meanings attributed to prophet via Hadith. Either prophet had to be dreaming to see all that elaborate exposition of this word totally different than what was understood by him and his people of the time, or else Arch Angel Gabriel sat with him for sometime to assign all these meanings.

          Blind believers are free to take their pick as reason has not even touched them. Has it?

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            Dear all, as usual when I dissect a word of Quran. People want to fit it into the current flawed translation. Obviously they can not do it, then they point to the whole verse. Someone said what about 225. So I translated the whole verse.

            Please read it, analyze it and then please think. Are these the principles that can help and establish a progressive and coherent society or the meanings that are implied in its traditional translation.

            If you still can't decide just look around and at the immediate past history. The societies that have progressed and prospered, what were these doing?

            I know it is going to be just a word salad for some. I hope there some sane people out there as well, who may understand.

            225

            You be an object of example reflecting those who became safe, secured and labored in the virtues of justice, incorruption and honesty so that these became coverings, in order for them to continue flowing the course underneath. As often as, there were the bright days so became available means of sustenance in these as ripped fruits of tree. They thought and then expressed that this is how we sustained in times before. And for all pursuant of right course, made like this one, shall have spiritual purified companions to unit with. As well, they shall continue to abide in it for a long time.

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              The root (Jim-Nun-Nun) refers to "what covers something", i.e its "outer layer". is a singular object of meaning it is an object that has an exterior "coating" such as a body. Quran often uses it to refer to "the flesh" or "the body" with Al-Jinn meaning "the bodily" as opposed to al-nas as "the spiritual".

              That is the true account. Take care.

              Be safe
              Amenuel

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                Dear all, please help. People want to know how come these meanings. However, they have even no basic knowledge of Classic Arabic. Giving them more explanation does not help. Although a certain level of explanation is needed even for ones who have linguistic knowledge to take veils off their eyes; until they can realize that neither am I making up meanings nor an angel is explaining these to me. The explanation is very time consuming and laborious to put together and write up including Arabic words and terms in-between English. What I am asking to please help is to draw a balance between sufficient and required explanation from prospective of someone with basic or advanced Arabic know how.

                I realize that for people with no knowhow of Arabic, nothing is going to be enough.

                Since, most belong to this later category. I would still like their input as what they think would help them to understand.

                With this let us start the linguistic explanation of the presented verse.

                Syntactical/Grammatical Explanation

                This verse is a combination of several sentences, we shall parse these as we gone along in our explanation. Any improvements and corrections from all quarters shall be greatly appreciated.

                1. At the start it is verbal sentence.

                Waw at the start is a copulative particle. It is here to indicate connection of concepts in this verse with prior verse. It was left out in current translation as previous verse is not translated with it.

                This words is an imperative verb of verb form II feminine, from root Ba-Shin-Ra. It should be fully written as however when last harkat of a word is Jer the Ya after it can be elided, which is the case in Quranic text.

                1.This is followed by a relative clause or sentence that will be

                A relative plural noun used as substantive and is subject or of nominal sentence

                Two verbal sentences couple together by Waw, these serve as object or of the nominal sentence.

                It is a verbal sentence with third person plural subject built-in. It is a perfect verb from root Alif-Miim-Nun IV form.

                Another verbal sentence coupled with previous sentence via particle Waw.

                This is a perfect third person plural verb from root Ayn-Miim-Lam as well verb and built-in subject or of verbal sentence.

                A definite active participle plural and feminine in accusative or mode. It is object or of the verbal sentence.

                Lexical Explanation

                This imperative verb root meanings are given in Lane as ? He pared a hide or his face or surface or the skin upon which the hair grew or some say removing inner part with the knife?. This all initially and at a cursory look does not make any sense. Additionally, one is left scratching his head how to translate all this as meanings of one word. However, reading carefully at the beginning of root description in Lane. He translates ?I exposed to see its and points out, to see word"".?

                It is here ,when one explores meanings of in root Alif-Dal-Miim that one finds pertinent meanings of this word. means ? a means of access, agreement, mixing?. Hence meanings above in the translation ?You be an object of example reflecting?.

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                  Man_of_Faith
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                  It is not so difficult to check Lane's lexicon which is a bridge between English and Classical Arabic. It does not teach much Arabic grammar though.

                  Concerning lexical meaning you can see the word refers to the "clothing" of an object if looking in ancient lexicons, e.g. a human body. A garden could possibly be referred to as since it is a body of land within borders.

                  Regarding Arabic grammar I am still researching. Things are not as they seem. Popular Arabic knowledge is erroneous to a large extent and grammar works differently in reality. But, with it still clearly gives reference to an object, a specific attachment or an uncountable attribute (singular).

                  Be safe
                  Amenuel

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