Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Users
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Free Minds Forum Icon
  1. Home
  2. Critical Examination of Islam
  3. Quranic Divinity
  4. Discussion about Qur'an's language

Discussion about Qur'an's language

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Quranic Divinity
6 Posts 3 Posters 152 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • S Offline
    S Offline
    SleeplessInCairo
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Hey All,

    I wanna know your opinion about Qur'an's language that is commonly known as "Arabic", the word "Araby" in Qur'an is not used as a name of a language it is used to indicate that the book is clear and obvious..

    Also about the history of Qur'ans language they say it used to be written without dots or superscripts which is logically impossible, you can't pronounce 28 letters and only write 17 shapes, its an impossible way to communicate through mail or to write contracts or anything, and this didn't exist in any other language even before the commonly known era of prophet Muhammad, and there are modern discoveries regarding old scripts that have dots like here https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_Quran_manuscript

    So I wanna know if someone else looked into this and have any opinion regarding this matter..

    Best Regards..

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • H Offline
      H Offline
      hicham9
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Nabatean Aramaic = (pre-qurnic) Arabian Tongue = Qurnic Arabic (not post-qurnic CA)

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • H Offline
        H Offline
        hicham9
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        The Qurn was not composed in (what we call) "Classical Arabic" (but in an* Arabian tongue).

        CA was formulated by (post-qurnic) Ajamites (like e.g., Sb/Sibawayh); cf., 16103, &c.!

        Both the script and vocabulary (of the Qurn) bespeak an Aramean origin

        • indefinite

        https//c2.staticflickr.com/6/5109/5658834521_854d7158b9_b.jpg
        http//www.iranicaonline.org/uploads/files/aramaic_tab2.jpg

        The Arabian Tongue of the Qurn is not the language of ALLH (as Hadithers, the self-proclaimed "muslims," irrationally think/claim) Exalted is The Transcendent One, but the lingua franca of the folk/community of His mortal messenger at the time (in the fertile crescent/zone of ancient Arabia) Nabatean Aramaic because the "distorted Syriac" theory fails. Mind the difference between pre-qurnic "Arabic" of the Scripture, and the post-qurnic Ajamean "Arabic" of the Abbassides &co. (=CA) if you seek to correctly understand/decipher the Textus.

        This is my current understanding, ALLH is (always) best acquainted.

        SLM

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • H Offline
          H Offline
          hicham9
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Ps. The Qurn even openly names/points out (as to bring into attention) important geographical locations within this fertile zone (ie. northwest the so-called Arabian Peninsula), like e.g., Babylon (&#1604 in modern Iraq/ancient Mesopotamia ( Midian (&#1606 east of the Jordan River/Dead Sea; andor Aram (&#1605 and Karytyn (&#1606 in Syria; &c. Mkh (&#1577, as per the Qurn, is not a city/town (let alone a so-called "holy city&quot of a cult called "islam" (as Mohamadans/Hadithers were, and still are been mislead/brainwashed to think/imagine).

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • S Offline
            S Offline
            SleeplessInCairo
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            so from what you say you don't believe that the current shape of Qur'an's script and letters was what used back then when Muhammad existed?

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • H Offline
              H Offline
              Hizbullah
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              The Arabian Tongue of the Qurn is not the language of ALLH (as Hadithers, the self-proclaimed "muslims," irrationally think/claim) Exalted is The Transcendent One, but the lingua franca of the folk/community of His mortal messenger at the time (in the fertile crescent/zone of ancient Arabia) Nabatean Aramaic because the "distorted Syriac" theory fails. Mind the difference between pre-qurnic "Arabic" of the Scripture, and the post-qurnic Ajamean "Arabic" of the Abbassides &co. (=CA) if you seek to correctly understand/decipher the Textus.

              This is my current understanding, ALLH is (always) best acquainted.

              Salam my brother hicham9,

              You are not only 100% correct but 1000% correct.

              From my discoveries, the so called Aramaic was actually Nabatean, which was the Lingua Franca of the Levant and Persia. The languages - Middle Persia, Greco-Roman, Soghdian, Khurasanian, contains HUZWARESH, meaning, words of similarity with Nabatean. In other words, the Persian would be able to comprehend the speeches of those people in the Levant and Greco-Roman land and vice-verse.

              Arabic was created by the Arabs with the help of the Persians, a combination of both ANA and ASA languages in the late 4th and early 5th Century CE. This was the era of the Arabization of the Levant by the Ummayads and later on inclusive of Persia to a certain extent by the Abbassiyah.

              peace

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              Reply
              • Reply as topic
              Log in to reply
              • Oldest to Newest
              • Newest to Oldest
              • Most Votes


              • Login

              • Don't have an account? Register

              • Login or register to search.
              • First post
                Last post
              0
              • Categories
              • Recent
              • Users