Verse 9:84

[gclandcp]

Salam All

Is verse 984 telling us not to attend the non Muslim funeral?

And do not attend towards any of them when they have died, nor stand at their grave. They have rejected God and His messenger and died while they were wicked. (984)

Regards

[drfazl]

Salam All
Is verse 984 telling us not to attend the non Muslim funeral?

And do not attend towards any of them when they have died, nor stand at their grave. They have rejected God and His messenger and died while they were wicked. (984)
Regards

May Allah Bless us All,

If we consider that Allah is the judge to decide whether the dead one died as muslim or not, then in all probabilities we refrain from the prayers on their behalf and stand not in the funeral rituals thereafter. An indirect warning and admonition from Allah not to involve in such acts for the dead, whoever they may be in your judgement.

[unknownuser]

Peace be upon you ,

(984) And do not ever "salaat"(the process of learning) on anyone from them (that) died, and do not maintain on his grave/burial place, that they truly disbelieved by God and His messenger, and they died and (while) they are debauchers

I have a very new and different view that I want to state here. The human body is only a vehicle for the true self which never dies, it is my GUESS (at this time until I see if it has merit) that one who dies in a state of rejection, which menas they enjoyed the life of this world over the life of the UNSEEN, thier true self which never dies is STUCK on this level. To one who is CONSCIOUS of this world, it is not a hapy place which is why we read;

(5360) And you laugh, and you do not weep ?

In the tradition of ancient Kemet(Egypt), the first step of spiritual cultivation was to develop what was called the "sorrows of auset". And what that means is that one should develop a deep sorrow for the (dead)God that is trapped within us, which is why we do so much wrong. We must have deep sorrow for doing wrong, and that is what starts the process of ressurecting the God within.

So one who is righteosu, when they die, we can "salaat"(compile the understanding/learn) that they have shed this Physical level and gone to a much greater exsistence, but we cannot do this for disbelievers becuase they are still here, there true self which never dies has taken on another PHYSICAL BODY because they have not learned the lesson.

We do not maintain the grave of such a person because all that is in the grave is the decomposing earth vehicle, it is not to be a place of idolizing PHYSICAL BODIES. The verse says "maintain", not "stand", because it would be impossible to know which grave contains a peron of faith and which contains a rejector.

[drfazl]

I have a very new and different view that I want to state here. The human body is only a vehicle for the true self which never dies, it is my GUESS (at this time until I see if it has merit) that one who dies in a state of rejection, which menas they enjoyed the life of this world over the life of the UNSEEN, thier true self which never dies is STUCK on this level. To one who is CONSCIOUS of this world, it is not a hapy place.

Human body is just a vehicle which has a limited stay on earth used by the trueself, fully powered, never to die that it travels through the eternity. In such case, will it get STUCK just because the vehicle has collapsed?

One who dies in a state of rejection
If the vehicle rejects which is not the trueself, then a vehicle after all, is not accountable for rejection. When you refer to 'one' is it vehicle? Or, trueslf? Or, both together? Please clarify.