DO SEX TO YOUR WOMAN AS YOU WISH?
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That is driven by media and pornography not actual sexual preferences.
People imitate, yes, but much is also driven by the instinct and the Homo Sapiens have a tendency to enjoy violence due to thrill of the domination and sight of domination and apparently the feeling of being dominated is also arousing.
And I doubt it has emerged recently but has been present for many years. Such sexual fantasies have probably been in the minds of people for centuries. It is now mirrored in such as media.
Be well
Amenuel -
It would support some of my studies on the human instinct as part of my project on faith. This is why I wondered. It is quite grotesque when you think of it. I more or less hate being within a Homo Sapiens body.
Be well
AmenuelYou hate that which Allah has given you?
5514-16 So which of the favors of your Lord will you deny?
Me on the other hand am grateful to my Lord for His favors upon me. He has created man in truth and it is man's responsibility to treat the body with respect. Whites used the bible to brainwash the slaves, does that make it a detestable thing? No by all means
Perverts do obscene things with their bodies, does that make the human body a detestable thing? No by all means.
Do not hate God's creation Ameneuel -
I wouldn't have thought you were crazy brother, don't worry. )
It all comes down to preference... Everyone, both men and women, have different sexual preferences. )
Selam Comrox,
Thank you, you sure are right ;D
Peace
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HP_TECH,
The body is but a test. Often its enticements makes one want to hate it. Of course what I meant by hate is the situation of having my spirit merged with a primitive animal, but I could not hate the body itself or I could as well hate a dog. I care for animals of course.
Be well
Amenuel -
That is driven by media and pornography not actual sexual preferences.
Majority of the population are like cattle no worse than that, they imitate what they see and eat like the cattle do Consumerism=consumers
Allah's Words are Eternally Relevant
http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(717924)
http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(471216)
http//i.imgur.com/5LmtY.gifSelam Hp Tech,.
Allah does not care what we do in bed, i had girlfriends before i became muslim and believe me most of them are beasts in bed. And actually i did like that too, so it is not media and it is not pornographic. I tell you that most girls like it when you pull their hair. It is not dirty, i do not see anything in bed as dirty, except anal sex. And we know that anal sex brings diseases, so Muslims should not do this.
I do agree that most people are as cattle, but in bed everybody got their own feeling and what they like, so i disagree on this if this is about sexual preferences.Also pulling hair of a woman has nothing to do with porno. Most men have a obsession with hair of a woman and they want to touch it, also girls love their hair much, so this is not pornographic at all. Also Allah did not command us to be sweet to your women in bed, be a gentleman. Maybe one women out of 10 on earth would like that.
Peace
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I wonder how common it is that a woman wishes to be slapped during sex.
Depends what kind of lady she is, some like chocking and some slapping, some like it hot and some like it cool. I know it is very common that women like to be chocked and slapped, you as a man should be the dominant person in bed and if you do not know that game, most of the ladies will not appreciate your style.
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That is driven by media and pornography not actual sexual preferences.
Majority of the population are like cattle no worse than that, they imitate what they see and eat like the cattle do Consumerism=consumers
Allah's Words are Eternally Relevant
http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(717924)
http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(471216)
http//i.imgur.com/5LmtY.gifIsn't everyone and everything driven by the media, or our parents, or our schools, teachers, friends, other family members, books, etc., or by some other influence? We're all influenced some way or another. So we're all cattle, until we learn to think for ourselves.
I'll restate from my earlier post
Often, people are willing to explore BDSM activity but are afraid that their partner will judge them.
I think more people are into kinky behavior, or at least a little curious about it, than most realize. We all have thoughts, some that are good or not so good, and we can't control our thoughts.
The fear of judgment is what may often prevent someone from coming forward about what they like or want to try with their partner.
Depends what kind of lady she is, some like chocking and some slapping, some like it hot and some like it cool. I know it is very common that women like to be chocked and slapped, you as a man should be the dominant person in bed and if you do not know that game, most of the ladies will not appreciate your style.
There are men who like to be submissive too. They're out there. And then there are couples who want to "take turns" so to speak.
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Alright... folks... getting very graphic here lol
A bit unnecessary... for this forum no?
Let me state that I personally reserve no judgement concerning someone's sexual preference.(as long as we are talking about lawful heterosexual relationships )But whenever a topic is discussed in this forum I relate it to how I envision pious, abiding citizens.
My argument is against the idea that these pseudo-violent "rape-like" sexual desires are actually innate desires present within all human beings.
Being slapped, pulling hair, choked a little, handcuffed, gagged, blind-folded, tied, spanked a bit are all psychoerotic desires resemblant of rape not a loving passionate act.I do not expect members in this forum who hopefully are, unless married, abstinent from sex to truly grasp the huge difference between "rough sex"/BDSM and love-making.
However, ask yourselves how would a virgin abstinent young woman know about BDSM if she has not been exposed to it? Can you actually picture a virgin chaste woman asking to be choked a little? How absurd is that!
People are introduced to these psychoerotic fantasies as Comrox has stated herself
Isn't everyone and everything driven by the media, or our parents, or our schools, teachers, friends, other family members, books, etc., or by some other influence? We're all influenced some way or another. So we're all cattle, until we learn to think for ourselves.
But this does not make it ok! Like Comrox stated we have to think for ourselves and not follow the herd....
There is a thin line between sexual violence and these psychoerotic fantasies. These pornographic fantasies are degrading in nature and in most cases lead to misconception of true nature of sex, actual rape, loss of respect for partner etc...Check this link https//focusoncampus.org/content/5-ways-porn-destroys-relationships
When I say pornographic I man everything in the media from your 50 shades of grey hence books, radio, television, music, commercials, all of the above are potentially sexualizing(in a pornographic manner) factors.
#StaySubmissiveToTheMostGraciousNotyourpartner
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Depends what kind of lady she is, some like chocking and some slapping, some like it hot and some like it cool. I know it is very common that women like to be chocked and slapped, you as a man should be the dominant person in bed and if you do not know that game, most of the ladies will not appreciate your style.
I very much doubt that you know th for a fact. But I can understand that if somebody is seriously disturbed in the sense he or she would like people to believe that so that he or she can pass as "normal".
Healthy and and believing sex cannot be about dominance. That is shaytanic and if somebody confuses that with other things, it is also shaytanic. On the other hand it is one of so many steretyes of what it is to be a man or a woman. At any rate.
Confusing dominance with certain attitudes i sex, it is like he cowards who confuse combativity with gratuitous violence.
here is some very very serious proble when smebdy pays at dominance thinkig it is sex. It is not, it is prostituting sex to let out other kind of very harmful feelings, harmful for those who have them.
Salaam
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My argument is against the idea that these pseudo-violent "rape-like" sexual desires are actually innate desires present within all human beings.
Actually they are, it is part of the instinct. You must not forget the body is an animal whereas your spirit is not. Ignoring the spiritual part and embracing too much of the bodily will lead to such desires.
Be well
Amenuel -
I very much doubt that you know th for a fact. But I can understand that if somebody is seriously disturbed in the sense he or she would like people to believe that so that he or she can pass as "normal".
Healthy and and believing sex cannot be about dominance. That is shaytanic and if somebody confuses that with other things, it is also shaytanic. On the other hand it is one of so many steretyes of what it is to be a man or a woman. At any rate.
Confusing dominance with certain attitudes i sex, it is like he cowards who confuse combativity with gratuitous violence.
here is some very very serious proble when smebdy pays at dominance thinkig it is sex. It is not, it is prostituting sex to let out other kind of very harmful feelings, harmful for those who have them.
Salaam
How do you know that i can not know for sure, 9 out of 10 women like hair pulling, the other stuff also is not abnormal, anal sex is abnormal, but a small play is not from ?ejtan, come on. And if you think that a woman does not like a dominant man than you are wrong, and in bed someone has to be the dominant one, the one who leads, just like dancing, so i do not agree with you. Maybe you are 60 years old, than i understand why you like casual and believe the rest is from satan. So it is harmful to me, when i pull my wife' s hair?
And Hp Tech has some good points, also about six shades of grey, that is satanic and after that book came out many people tried things they never had done. I see it as a bad book, because your relation can come to end if your wife reads it and want it and you do not want it as a man. I do believe that a little bit of play can not be wrong, but to live your life like this, with rape fantasies and so on,and to have a obsession with this, that can never be good.
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Peace
I just discovered a journalist by the name of Lodro Rinzler who asked random people on the streets, at bars, coffee shops, restaurants, etc., about their sexual preferences, and then wrote an article about how common BDSM is. Here's a small portion of the article
If you continue following the example of the Americans, one of the most perverted people walking the earth today, you will have the same end.
I do not think that any believing woman will be desiring your sick ways. And those perverted you describe doing that sick way trying to stay virgins, they are not virgins anymore, they are stupid and perverted.
virgin= pure, untouched.
Please keep your pornography away from my posts.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
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Peace
If you continue following the example of the Americans, one of the most perverted people walking the earth today, you will have the same end.
I do not think that any believing woman will be desiring your sick ways. And those perverted you describe doing that sick way trying to stay virgins, they are not virgins anymore, they are stupid and perverted.
virgin= pure, untouched.
Please keep your pornography away from my posts.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
It's not just Americans... It's true that Americans participate in these types of activities more so than the rest of the population, but even still about 20% or 1/5 of the world's population does too. (source http//www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/americans-are-more-bdsm-rest-world-180949703/?no-ist). So statistically you can't say that Americans are the only "perverted" ones here. Once again, it comes down to preference. People have different preferences. You don't have to agree with it.
Also I'm not sure if you're talking to me or someone else, because I never mentioned people engaging in these types of activities to stay virgins.
Anyways, I won't post any more on this thread. I am sorry for any distress I may have caused you.
Peace.
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How do you know that i can not know for sure, 9 out of 10 women like hair pulling,
At least the women you have been with yes. But that's not necessarily an accurate representation of the whole population of women of the world. The ones you have been with were already not like the ones who weren't into sleeping around.
Also, like someone pointed out, these days people think they have to behave in a certain way in order to be "normal", even in sex and sexual preferences.
Furthermore, I wonder why people think that men are obsessed with women's hair. This seams to be a mindset within religions. I see so many Muslim girls from Syria these days who are wearing the hijab but along with tight jeans. As if men go bonkers about the hair and not the figure. What's up with hair? Anyhow, I'm aware that dress code is mostly a cultural thing, and actually has no motive of modesty as a foundation. I'm starting to believe sexual preferences are also a cultural thing, dictated to us by media and society.
, and in bed someone has to be the dominant one, the one who leads, just like dancing, so i do not agree with you.
HAS to be dominant? This sounds very similar to "the family has to have one manager" that I hear from many people of "Muslim culture".
Peace
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Right on Zulf. And I do not suspect, I am sure that a great deal of sex culture is due to, indeed, culture and not innate. Not to say that because something is ot innate it should not be there, but the point is that what we are told many time is that it is there because it is innate, which obviously many times is bullshit.
And there are also in sex culture a great deal of social engineering. When some or so many self-called muslims insist that if women do not dress or behave so and so they are aroused, they are automatically assuming the duty of getting aroused, even if they could easily never do so, just because they have to uphold that vullshit in order to get away with imposing on women extra burdens, as many estra burdens as possible. Never mind prophet Yusuf or the Qur'an or whatever stick under he wheels may be thrown but those whowant to spoil the male feast of women "modesty".
Sex may be the most potent natural drive but it is also the most exploitable cultural construct and culturally appointed sewer.
Salaam
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At least the women you have been with yes. But that's not necessarily an accurate representation of the whole population of women of the world. The ones you have been with were already not like the ones who weren't into sleeping around.
Also, like someone pointed out, these days people think they have to behave in a certain way in order to be "normal", even in sex and sexual preferences.
Furthermore, I wonder why people think that men are obsessed with women's hair. This seams to be a mindset within religions. I see so many Muslim girls from Syria these days who are wearing the hijab but along with tight jeans. As if men go bonkers about the hair and not the figure. What's up with hair? Anyhow, I'm aware that dress code is mostly a cultural thing, and actually has no motive of modesty as a foundation. I'm starting to believe sexual preferences are also a cultural thing, dictated to us by media and society.
HAS to be dominant? This sounds very similar to "the family has to have one manager" that I hear from many people of "Muslim culture".
Peace
Selam, yes has to be dominant in bed and i will explain. We know the story about the ant from Quran, did you know the leader of the ant colony is a female, she is the one who regulate the traffic. She ant is in control and the rest listens to her, they do what she tells them. And the manager in every family is the woman. Women have better understanding how to lead a family, just like the lady ant. The role of the woman in the family is much bigger than of the man and mostly the women make the rules in the house, also they have much more responsibility, they are also mostly mentally stronger than the men. This is not as you say ' Muslim culture' . This is everywhere the same and the women has a much more important role in leading, so yes they are the mangers of the families. The dominant role in the household belongs to the woman and the dominant role in bed belongs to the man. It is always been so, i did not make this up.
Girls from Syiria or Turkey or Marocco, it does not matter where they are from, if they live in the west, they will also want to be like other girls and will wear jeans. And even if they not live in the west they will watch tv and also wanting to be like the girls on tv wear tight jeans with a hijab. The family in western countries have less to say about modesty to their children than the ones who do not live in west, because they will say everybody wears jeans these day, this is normal. They will forget what Quran says. Sexual preferences are not a cultural thing, i do not know how you come to such a conclusion. Also before i was religious i loved women s hair, so this has nothing to do with religion, as you claim.
As our sister comrox said it is about preferences and not in any way religious or about tradition, sex has nothing to do with that.
Also you do not know what kind of women i have been with, also i wonder why you think that you know such much about this issue, clearly you do not know much about women. This is can conclude from your post.
To our sister Huruf i can say this If the girls and women were like our mothers and grandmothers, than we would have no sexual culture. The woman has changed, they want power and they want to be the boss. They want parties and a lot of boyfriends, many experiences in life and they want Gucci, Versace and Louis Vuitton. Our mothers and grandmothers wanted healthy families and i wish i was born 1000 years ago. Where are the women from 100 years ago, the woman who was nice and did not talked with words like bullshit. The modesty thing is not all about clothing, it is also about how you behave and talk. I hope that people understand this. I am against all crazy men who think that a girl who is wearing jeans should be raped or some other twisted thinking what sometimes happens.As i explained a woman has a role and if women wants to reject her role and goes to parties and does not want to be a leader and mother, than what kind of children will we have in 100 years. It is up to the women if she chooses the tv media as guidance or the Quran. The question is who spoils who? I think that a woman should be the example for modesty, clear thinking and that she should correct misbehavior and not promote it. I've seen girls with hijab, with big mouths always ready to argue and even fight. And many things they do are very bad that i will not mention now, but think about this when they behave right now like this, what kind of children will they have and will those children choose Christianity, because it gives them more freedom.
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Also I'm not sure if you're talking to me or someone else, because I never mentioned people engaging in these types of activities to stay virgins.
Anyways, I won't post any more on this thread. I am sorry for any distress I may have caused you.
Peace.
Selam sister,
why would you not post, please feel free to post, this forum is called free minds. He is the one who started this topic and he can not say to you such things. Clearly he only wants to believe what he knows and other things are just too scary for him.
About virgins he replies to me i think. Because i said that many Muslim girls have anal sex, because they want to stay virgin. I think this brought him some pain and he does not want to believe it. I say it again, it is true that many Muslim girls have sex before marriage and because of the fact that they can only get married if they are virgin, they do anal sex. Many times they have to go to the doctor and the doctor checks if they are virgin if not. Because the whole family would be embarrassed, these girls do not have casual sex and they have anal sex. Maybe the doctor should also check their asses in the future.
I do not care if a girl is virgin or not, we all can make mistakes. Maybe she was a bad person and was guided by ALLAH and she is now the best Muslim woman and does everything according Quran. I rather have such a girl than a lying Muslim girl who had anal sex.
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Selam, yes has to be dominant in bed and i will explain. We know the story about the ant from Quran, did you know the leader of the ant colony is a female, she is the one who regulate the traffic. She ant is in control and the rest listens to her, they do what she tells them. And the manager in every family is the woman. Women have better understanding how to lead a family, just like the lady ant. The role of the woman in the family is much bigger than of the man and mostly the women make the rules in the house, also they have much more responsibility, they are also mostly mentally stronger than the men.
I read the example of ants that leader ant is female, but how on Earth does that turn it into that human males must dominate in bed???? You just gave an example (of what?), but didn't explain. Would you give it another go please?
This is not as you say ' Muslim culture' . This is everywhere the same and the women has a much more important role in leading, so yes they are the mangers of the families. The dominant role in the household belongs to the woman and the dominant role in bed belongs to the man. It is always been so, i did not make this up.
Maybe Bosnia is different from other Muslims areas. What I have seen is that the male is claimed as the leader/manager of the family, and this is Muslim Tradition (except perhaps in Bosnia). It's a totally different story that the female may be the actual leader in reality. The male is still made the figure head, or portrayed as such, even when the female is stronger, wiser and more capable.
I know men (Arabs) who decide ALOT in the family... a self proclaimed manager role, and they insist on it. Look, human beings have different mentalities and temperaments. In some families the male manages most, in others it is the female. Sometimes it is very shared. We cannot generalize about this too much. In this world though, it has been from time immemorial that the man has been the master of the house, at least officially, especially in the so called abrahamitic religions. Muslims are still into it, so it is indeed part of Muslim Tradition/Culture... and it is often claimed it is part of religion, which is the usual excuse of getting things approved by the masses without objection.
Girls from Syiria or Turkey or Marocco, it does not matter where they are from, if they live in the west, they will also want to be like other girls and will wear jeans. And even if they not live in the west they will watch tv and also wanting to be like the girls on tv wear tight jeans with a hijab. The family in western countries have less to say about modesty to their children than the ones who do not live in west, because they will say everybody wears jeans these day, this is normal. They will forget what Quran says. Sexual preferences are not a cultural thing, i do not know how you come to such a conclusion. Also before i was religious i loved women s hair, so this has nothing to do with religion, as you claim.
I don't recall claiming that being fond of women's hair has anything to do with religion. People can like whatever they want, and it's ok. However, the hair is a very special thing in Islam. The hair is the first thing covered. So in this sense it DOES have to do with religion, in that religion seems to think that all men are crazy about the hair. Hair is NOT necessarily the thing most men are crazy about in reality, but religion treats it like that. See what I mean. Not sure if I fail at explaining what I mean.
As our sister comrox said it is about preferences and not in any way religious or about tradition, sex has nothing to do with that.
And where do preferences (what people like and accept) come from? It comes from all directions including media, society at large, religion. All this IS culture and tradition. Sex doesn't exist in a vacuum. Sex exists in our minds, and our minds are affected by everything.
Also you do not know what kind of women i have been with, also i wonder why you think that you know such much about this issue, clearly you do not know much about women. This is can conclude from your post.
I thought you said something akin to that most women like hair pulling. Do they, according to you? Are you talking from your own experience, or not?
And yes, you've probably had many more women than I, since you know more about them than I. But I seriously doubt you've had so many that we can talk about a fair statistical sample to generalize about the world's population of women. Was your sample of women including ones from all walks of life and several parts of the world, or where they from the same geographical area, age, and social circle as yourself?
So, is it ok if a woman dominates in bed? Or is it not ok? What if the man and the woman take turns between 'sessions'?
Salaam