DO SEX TO YOUR WOMAN AS YOU WISH?
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I very much doubt that you know th for a fact. But I can understand that if somebody is seriously disturbed in the sense he or she would like people to believe that so that he or she can pass as "normal".
Healthy and and believing sex cannot be about dominance. That is shaytanic and if somebody confuses that with other things, it is also shaytanic. On the other hand it is one of so many steretyes of what it is to be a man or a woman. At any rate.
Confusing dominance with certain attitudes i sex, it is like he cowards who confuse combativity with gratuitous violence.
here is some very very serious proble when smebdy pays at dominance thinkig it is sex. It is not, it is prostituting sex to let out other kind of very harmful feelings, harmful for those who have them.
Salaam
How do you know that i can not know for sure, 9 out of 10 women like hair pulling, the other stuff also is not abnormal, anal sex is abnormal, but a small play is not from ?ejtan, come on. And if you think that a woman does not like a dominant man than you are wrong, and in bed someone has to be the dominant one, the one who leads, just like dancing, so i do not agree with you. Maybe you are 60 years old, than i understand why you like casual and believe the rest is from satan. So it is harmful to me, when i pull my wife' s hair?
And Hp Tech has some good points, also about six shades of grey, that is satanic and after that book came out many people tried things they never had done. I see it as a bad book, because your relation can come to end if your wife reads it and want it and you do not want it as a man. I do believe that a little bit of play can not be wrong, but to live your life like this, with rape fantasies and so on,and to have a obsession with this, that can never be good.
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Peace
I just discovered a journalist by the name of Lodro Rinzler who asked random people on the streets, at bars, coffee shops, restaurants, etc., about their sexual preferences, and then wrote an article about how common BDSM is. Here's a small portion of the article
If you continue following the example of the Americans, one of the most perverted people walking the earth today, you will have the same end.
I do not think that any believing woman will be desiring your sick ways. And those perverted you describe doing that sick way trying to stay virgins, they are not virgins anymore, they are stupid and perverted.
virgin= pure, untouched.
Please keep your pornography away from my posts.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
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Peace
If you continue following the example of the Americans, one of the most perverted people walking the earth today, you will have the same end.
I do not think that any believing woman will be desiring your sick ways. And those perverted you describe doing that sick way trying to stay virgins, they are not virgins anymore, they are stupid and perverted.
virgin= pure, untouched.
Please keep your pornography away from my posts.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
It's not just Americans... It's true that Americans participate in these types of activities more so than the rest of the population, but even still about 20% or 1/5 of the world's population does too. (source http//www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/americans-are-more-bdsm-rest-world-180949703/?no-ist). So statistically you can't say that Americans are the only "perverted" ones here. Once again, it comes down to preference. People have different preferences. You don't have to agree with it.
Also I'm not sure if you're talking to me or someone else, because I never mentioned people engaging in these types of activities to stay virgins.
Anyways, I won't post any more on this thread. I am sorry for any distress I may have caused you.
Peace.
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How do you know that i can not know for sure, 9 out of 10 women like hair pulling,
At least the women you have been with yes. But that's not necessarily an accurate representation of the whole population of women of the world. The ones you have been with were already not like the ones who weren't into sleeping around.
Also, like someone pointed out, these days people think they have to behave in a certain way in order to be "normal", even in sex and sexual preferences.
Furthermore, I wonder why people think that men are obsessed with women's hair. This seams to be a mindset within religions. I see so many Muslim girls from Syria these days who are wearing the hijab but along with tight jeans. As if men go bonkers about the hair and not the figure. What's up with hair? Anyhow, I'm aware that dress code is mostly a cultural thing, and actually has no motive of modesty as a foundation. I'm starting to believe sexual preferences are also a cultural thing, dictated to us by media and society.
, and in bed someone has to be the dominant one, the one who leads, just like dancing, so i do not agree with you.
HAS to be dominant? This sounds very similar to "the family has to have one manager" that I hear from many people of "Muslim culture".
Peace
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Right on Zulf. And I do not suspect, I am sure that a great deal of sex culture is due to, indeed, culture and not innate. Not to say that because something is ot innate it should not be there, but the point is that what we are told many time is that it is there because it is innate, which obviously many times is bullshit.
And there are also in sex culture a great deal of social engineering. When some or so many self-called muslims insist that if women do not dress or behave so and so they are aroused, they are automatically assuming the duty of getting aroused, even if they could easily never do so, just because they have to uphold that vullshit in order to get away with imposing on women extra burdens, as many estra burdens as possible. Never mind prophet Yusuf or the Qur'an or whatever stick under he wheels may be thrown but those whowant to spoil the male feast of women "modesty".
Sex may be the most potent natural drive but it is also the most exploitable cultural construct and culturally appointed sewer.
Salaam
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At least the women you have been with yes. But that's not necessarily an accurate representation of the whole population of women of the world. The ones you have been with were already not like the ones who weren't into sleeping around.
Also, like someone pointed out, these days people think they have to behave in a certain way in order to be "normal", even in sex and sexual preferences.
Furthermore, I wonder why people think that men are obsessed with women's hair. This seams to be a mindset within religions. I see so many Muslim girls from Syria these days who are wearing the hijab but along with tight jeans. As if men go bonkers about the hair and not the figure. What's up with hair? Anyhow, I'm aware that dress code is mostly a cultural thing, and actually has no motive of modesty as a foundation. I'm starting to believe sexual preferences are also a cultural thing, dictated to us by media and society.
HAS to be dominant? This sounds very similar to "the family has to have one manager" that I hear from many people of "Muslim culture".
Peace
Selam, yes has to be dominant in bed and i will explain. We know the story about the ant from Quran, did you know the leader of the ant colony is a female, she is the one who regulate the traffic. She ant is in control and the rest listens to her, they do what she tells them. And the manager in every family is the woman. Women have better understanding how to lead a family, just like the lady ant. The role of the woman in the family is much bigger than of the man and mostly the women make the rules in the house, also they have much more responsibility, they are also mostly mentally stronger than the men. This is not as you say ' Muslim culture' . This is everywhere the same and the women has a much more important role in leading, so yes they are the mangers of the families. The dominant role in the household belongs to the woman and the dominant role in bed belongs to the man. It is always been so, i did not make this up.
Girls from Syiria or Turkey or Marocco, it does not matter where they are from, if they live in the west, they will also want to be like other girls and will wear jeans. And even if they not live in the west they will watch tv and also wanting to be like the girls on tv wear tight jeans with a hijab. The family in western countries have less to say about modesty to their children than the ones who do not live in west, because they will say everybody wears jeans these day, this is normal. They will forget what Quran says. Sexual preferences are not a cultural thing, i do not know how you come to such a conclusion. Also before i was religious i loved women s hair, so this has nothing to do with religion, as you claim.
As our sister comrox said it is about preferences and not in any way religious or about tradition, sex has nothing to do with that.
Also you do not know what kind of women i have been with, also i wonder why you think that you know such much about this issue, clearly you do not know much about women. This is can conclude from your post.
To our sister Huruf i can say this If the girls and women were like our mothers and grandmothers, than we would have no sexual culture. The woman has changed, they want power and they want to be the boss. They want parties and a lot of boyfriends, many experiences in life and they want Gucci, Versace and Louis Vuitton. Our mothers and grandmothers wanted healthy families and i wish i was born 1000 years ago. Where are the women from 100 years ago, the woman who was nice and did not talked with words like bullshit. The modesty thing is not all about clothing, it is also about how you behave and talk. I hope that people understand this. I am against all crazy men who think that a girl who is wearing jeans should be raped or some other twisted thinking what sometimes happens.As i explained a woman has a role and if women wants to reject her role and goes to parties and does not want to be a leader and mother, than what kind of children will we have in 100 years. It is up to the women if she chooses the tv media as guidance or the Quran. The question is who spoils who? I think that a woman should be the example for modesty, clear thinking and that she should correct misbehavior and not promote it. I've seen girls with hijab, with big mouths always ready to argue and even fight. And many things they do are very bad that i will not mention now, but think about this when they behave right now like this, what kind of children will they have and will those children choose Christianity, because it gives them more freedom.
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Also I'm not sure if you're talking to me or someone else, because I never mentioned people engaging in these types of activities to stay virgins.
Anyways, I won't post any more on this thread. I am sorry for any distress I may have caused you.
Peace.
Selam sister,
why would you not post, please feel free to post, this forum is called free minds. He is the one who started this topic and he can not say to you such things. Clearly he only wants to believe what he knows and other things are just too scary for him.
About virgins he replies to me i think. Because i said that many Muslim girls have anal sex, because they want to stay virgin. I think this brought him some pain and he does not want to believe it. I say it again, it is true that many Muslim girls have sex before marriage and because of the fact that they can only get married if they are virgin, they do anal sex. Many times they have to go to the doctor and the doctor checks if they are virgin if not. Because the whole family would be embarrassed, these girls do not have casual sex and they have anal sex. Maybe the doctor should also check their asses in the future.
I do not care if a girl is virgin or not, we all can make mistakes. Maybe she was a bad person and was guided by ALLAH and she is now the best Muslim woman and does everything according Quran. I rather have such a girl than a lying Muslim girl who had anal sex.
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Selam, yes has to be dominant in bed and i will explain. We know the story about the ant from Quran, did you know the leader of the ant colony is a female, she is the one who regulate the traffic. She ant is in control and the rest listens to her, they do what she tells them. And the manager in every family is the woman. Women have better understanding how to lead a family, just like the lady ant. The role of the woman in the family is much bigger than of the man and mostly the women make the rules in the house, also they have much more responsibility, they are also mostly mentally stronger than the men.
I read the example of ants that leader ant is female, but how on Earth does that turn it into that human males must dominate in bed???? You just gave an example (of what?), but didn't explain. Would you give it another go please?
This is not as you say ' Muslim culture' . This is everywhere the same and the women has a much more important role in leading, so yes they are the mangers of the families. The dominant role in the household belongs to the woman and the dominant role in bed belongs to the man. It is always been so, i did not make this up.
Maybe Bosnia is different from other Muslims areas. What I have seen is that the male is claimed as the leader/manager of the family, and this is Muslim Tradition (except perhaps in Bosnia). It's a totally different story that the female may be the actual leader in reality. The male is still made the figure head, or portrayed as such, even when the female is stronger, wiser and more capable.
I know men (Arabs) who decide ALOT in the family... a self proclaimed manager role, and they insist on it. Look, human beings have different mentalities and temperaments. In some families the male manages most, in others it is the female. Sometimes it is very shared. We cannot generalize about this too much. In this world though, it has been from time immemorial that the man has been the master of the house, at least officially, especially in the so called abrahamitic religions. Muslims are still into it, so it is indeed part of Muslim Tradition/Culture... and it is often claimed it is part of religion, which is the usual excuse of getting things approved by the masses without objection.
Girls from Syiria or Turkey or Marocco, it does not matter where they are from, if they live in the west, they will also want to be like other girls and will wear jeans. And even if they not live in the west they will watch tv and also wanting to be like the girls on tv wear tight jeans with a hijab. The family in western countries have less to say about modesty to their children than the ones who do not live in west, because they will say everybody wears jeans these day, this is normal. They will forget what Quran says. Sexual preferences are not a cultural thing, i do not know how you come to such a conclusion. Also before i was religious i loved women s hair, so this has nothing to do with religion, as you claim.
I don't recall claiming that being fond of women's hair has anything to do with religion. People can like whatever they want, and it's ok. However, the hair is a very special thing in Islam. The hair is the first thing covered. So in this sense it DOES have to do with religion, in that religion seems to think that all men are crazy about the hair. Hair is NOT necessarily the thing most men are crazy about in reality, but religion treats it like that. See what I mean. Not sure if I fail at explaining what I mean.
As our sister comrox said it is about preferences and not in any way religious or about tradition, sex has nothing to do with that.
And where do preferences (what people like and accept) come from? It comes from all directions including media, society at large, religion. All this IS culture and tradition. Sex doesn't exist in a vacuum. Sex exists in our minds, and our minds are affected by everything.
Also you do not know what kind of women i have been with, also i wonder why you think that you know such much about this issue, clearly you do not know much about women. This is can conclude from your post.
I thought you said something akin to that most women like hair pulling. Do they, according to you? Are you talking from your own experience, or not?
And yes, you've probably had many more women than I, since you know more about them than I. But I seriously doubt you've had so many that we can talk about a fair statistical sample to generalize about the world's population of women. Was your sample of women including ones from all walks of life and several parts of the world, or where they from the same geographical area, age, and social circle as yourself?
So, is it ok if a woman dominates in bed? Or is it not ok? What if the man and the woman take turns between 'sessions'?
Salaam
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I read the example of ants that leader ant is female, but how on Earth does that turn it into that human males must dominate in bed???? You just gave an example (of what?), but didn't explain. Would you give it another go please?
Maybe Bosnia is different from other Muslims areas. What I have seen is that the male is claimed as the leader/manager of the family, and this is Muslim Tradition (except perhaps in Bosnia). It's a totally different story that the female may be the actual leader in reality. The male is still made the figure head, or portrayed as such, even when the female is stronger, wiser and more capable.
I know men (Arabs) who decide ALOT in the family... a self proclaimed manager role, and they insist on it. Look, human beings have different mentalities and temperaments. In some families the male manages most, in others it is the female. Sometimes it is very shared. We cannot generalize about this too much. In this world though, it has been from time immemorial that the man has been the master of the house, at least officially, especially in the so called abrahamitic religions. Muslims are still into it, so it is indeed part of Muslim Tradition/Culture... and it is often claimed it is part of religion, which is the usual excuse of getting things approved by the masses without objection.
I don't recall claiming that being fond of women's hair has anything to do with religion. People can like whatever they want, and it's ok. However, the hair is a very special thing in Islam. The hair is the first thing covered. So in this sense it DOES have to do with religion, in that religion seems to think that all men are crazy about the hair. Hair is NOT necessarily the thing most men are crazy about in reality, but religion treats it like that. See what I mean. Not sure if I fail at explaining what I mean.
And where do preferences (what people like and accept) come from? It comes from all directions including media, society at large, religion. All this IS culture and tradition. Sex doesn't exist in a vacuum. Sex exists in our minds, and our minds are affected by everything.
I thought you said something akin to that most women like hair pulling. Do they, according to you? Are you talking from your own experience, or not?
And yes, you've probably had many more women than I, since you know more about them than I. But I seriously doubt you've had so many that we can talk about a fair statistical sample to generalize about the world's population of women. Was your sample of women including ones from all walks of life and several parts of the world, or where they from the same geographical area, age, and social circle as yourself?
So, is it ok if a woman dominates in bed? Or is it not ok? What if the man and the woman take turns between 'sessions'?
Salaam
Selam Zulf,
I live in Bosnia since a few months, i lived in Germany and the Netherlands, so when i tell you things about this and that, my experiences in life come from other region than Bosnia and also when i talk about Muslims, mostly i grew up with arabs and berber people and turks. Also people from Algiers, Tunisia and African countries.
About domination , maybe it has not be the men always in control, but a real man will have the control, he is stronger and older and the wife in some way looks up at him. Also women like that, the man should lead. I really wonder if any of you who are against my statements ever had sex?
Yes Zulf that is what i am saying that the woman is actually the leader, i am happy you understand that. I do not understand your statement that a woman can be stronger than a man, but maybe you just talking about yourself. Now i maybe understand why you can not be dominant if you look at women as stronger than, brother you can never understand this about domination. Maybe you want the woman to lead you, it is ok, nothing wrong with that, it is about preferences.
Brother you did say that hair is a religious thing or else i would not have replied to that. And again you believe it is aspecial thing in Islam and some sense it is religious, do you think before you write or just write without thinking? Hair is not religious, it is sexual, that is why Muslim women wear hijab or niqab.
I am talking about all women and all religions, they love hair pulling, try it, you will see they like it. You can not say doner kebab is not good, if you never tried it.
And we can say that the men you are talking about in tradition who claim to be the boss in their family, are mostly not the boss. The men work all day and the women regulate everything and every men knows this, that is why i am very happy that Allah has made us this way. Together as a man and a woman we can function as we should. As i explained in my previous post that is why the man is dominant in bed, because in household he is not. Maybe this is hard to understand, but it is the truth.
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I think 'the talks' that go on in this thread are distasteful. yuck
sister, he created a thread with sex in the title, why not say the truth, he wants to know, i explain. He started it , his thread is distasteful.
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About domination , maybe it has not be the men always in control, but a real man will have the control, he is stronger and older and the wife in some way looks up at him. Also women like that, the man should lead. I really wonder if any of you who are against my statements ever had sex?
So the man subdues the woman, who likes to be pulled by the hair, because he is stronger and older, and a real man.
Wow
Clearly, I must be totally inexperienced, not a real man, and my wife, who doesn't like what most women like, must be into virgin birth or something. I've been blind to the truth for so long.
Peace bro
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So the man subdues the woman, who likes to be pulled by the hair, because he is stronger and older, and a real man.
Wow
Clearly, I must be totally inexperienced, not a real man, and my wife, who doesn't like what most women like, must be into virgin birth or something. I've been blind to the truth for so long.
Peace bro
Have a good Ramadhani did not say that, you misunderstood this, maybe you should read it again. If the woman likes it yes, it is not a rape, puling hair and slapping against her will is not what i mean. I do not believe what i read, you have to learn to read brother
have a nice ramadan, peace
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PEace the Guided one
About virgins he replies to me i think. Because i said that many Muslim girls have anal sex, because they want to stay virgin. I think this brought him some pain and he does not want to believe it.
Very little things in this world scare me, only God knows who, you or me, has been exposed to more perversion. But, it is not on me to spread dirt that I understand is very difficult to clean.
I have heard of worse things that those you describe, that those who are unbelievers claim to have done with those prostitutes that claim to be Muslim, married, single, etc; And yes, I really hate what those Hypocrites are doing to the image of the true believing women.
In USA you can get vaginal reconstruction for a few thousand dollars, so even if you have been a prostitute fro 20 years, they leave you like new. I have heard that most of the Arab girls that come to universities here do it before going back to marry as virgins.This post was intended to expose the corrupters that think they can do whatever they wish to their woman by God command, and not to let loose anybody pornographic mind.
If the woman likes it yes, it is not a rape, puling hair and slapping against her will is not what i mean.
Whoever likes violence during sexual intercourse has been perverted, and his/her partner shall seek divorce. Such person have made the senses of the flesh his/her God, and has gone beyond the limits. Believing sisters, if your man is trying to convince you of doing uncleanliness, get away from him. And, do not listen to him, for you will be taking Him as your God.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom
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PEace the Guided one Very little things in this world scare me, only God knows who, you or me, has been exposed to more perversion. But, it is not on me to spread dirt that I understand is very difficult to clean.
I have heard of worse things that those you describe, that those who are unbelievers claim to have done with those prostitutes that claim to be Muslim, married, single, etc; And yes, I really hate what those Hypocrites are doing to the image of the true believing women.
In USA you can get vaginal reconstruction for a few thousand dollars, so even if you have been a prostitute fro 20 years, they leave you like new. I have heard that most of the Arab girls that come to universities here do it before going back to marry as virgins.This post was intended to expose the corrupters that think they can do whatever they wish to their woman by God command, and not to let loose anybody pornographic mind.Whoever likes violence during sexual intercourse has been perverted, and his/her partner shall seek divorce. Such person have made the senses of the flesh his/her God, and has gone beyond the limits. Believing sisters, if your man is trying to convince you of doing uncleanliness, get away from him. And, do not listen to him, for you will be taking Him as your God.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom
Selam, My brother why did you start this topic? Is this not perversion especially in the month of ramadan? Should we not talk about other things? Islamic issues?
I only explained that it is up to us what to do in bed, except anal sex there is nothing wrong with other stuff you or your woman does like. I also explained that i rather have a girl who says pull my hair than a girl who had anal sex and claims to be virgin. Also there is no violence in what i was describing and i was not talking about rape or other perverted things. Also you misunderstood me, because i was telling that both sides agree on their preferences. If a woman does not like what her partner is doing to her, offcourse she should say it to him and if he keeps on doing it, seek divorce. I agree on that point. Do you think that this is something that happens a lot? Is that the reason why you started this topic?I can not believe that this happens a lot.And if you call hair pulling perversion than you are wrong. Girls love that and the men do that to please the women, not to please them self. You have to understand that you can do what ever you like to a woman if she likes it too. I wonder why you listen to perverted stories about prostitutes, should you as a Muslim not stay away from such people and such stories? And brother since i became Muslim i did not touch any women, so i am clean and i am not perverted. But the topic i did not like and i did say some things that maybe sound perverted. I still believe it is up to us what we do in bed and that we should do what we like. The question is what is perverted? Is it when you girl likes it when you slap her butt and pull her hair, i do not think that is perverted. Also this is not pornographic, maybe it is if you watch porn. I think having 4 women in 4 countries and as a rich arab you go and give some money once a month and you have sex with those women, i see that as perverted. Because you have to treat those women the same and that is not possible.
I understand from your post that you created this thread to warn women that they partner can not do them perverted things. I think no woman on earth would let her be abused and she would divorce, they do not need your thread to do so. Also you could have waited after ramadan and create such thread. This is my opinion and you can like it or not. I do not like it that you call me perverted, because i am not, i just was telling that there are preferences and that a couple can do whatever they like if it is not anal sex. And you started this topic so you started with spreading of dirt, do not forget that. I just told my opinion. It does not mean that i do this kind of sex. I do not have sex at all and if i did i would not slap and pull hair. Maybe if my woman really begged me i would, so i would do that to please her. So again i tell you it is the women who like this and ask for it. The men just do it to please the women. I think you should close this topic, because it brings us nowhere.
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@ guided one ,,
do you also use hunter sometimes.. or tie the hands of women these type of stuff..
pulling the hairs oh my goshhhhh and slapping rotfl rotfl
i just read this thread and now i understand all about you...
you are an amazing person...
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@ guided one ,,
do you also use hunter sometimes.. or tie the hands of women these type of stuff..
pulling the hairs oh my goshhhhh and slapping rotfl rotfl
i just read this thread and now i understand all about you...
you are an amazing person...
as i said and i quote I do not have sex at all and if i did i would not slap and pull hair. You should learn to read!
you are the one who is amazing, you can not win on the topic about Saturnalia and than you come here to attack me, maybe i just wrote this to get you in a trap and to expose you being a pagan and promoting 21.22 december as the night of decree. You see i am patient and i already exposed you at the other topic, i am like a doberman, i let you in, but will not leave you out. And now i am biting you and i will tear you apart. I already said to you, you make me sick,misguiding Muslims and telling them Saturnalia is the night of decree and i am making clear that you are a liar. I already asked you who is guiding you Allah or satan? I say La ilahe illa Lah, Allahu ekber. As long as i am here i will make it clear to the Muslims what 21 -22 December is and i will warn them about your intentions and i will help them to understand why it is wrong to believe that 21.22 December is the night of decree. Brothers and sisters, i have made a new thread about Saturnalia and please go and read about this and on page 6 and 7 of my thread One Million Dollar Question, you also can find a discussion about this. It is very important and please read it, you also can see what Imran writes and how he behaves, protecting 21-22 December.
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Good one Hp Tech LOL