Ture Islam Resides Somewhere Between Salafi(Shia) and Quranist(JAQ)
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Selam, what is your conclusion about Muslims who follow Quran only, do you have the same questions? Peace
Walaimkumsalam Rahamtullahi Wabarakathahu
The title says it all .if you go through this thread you will find both extremes are not correct . -
Walaimkumsalam Rahamtullahi Wabarakathahu
The title says it all .if you go through this thread you will find both extremes are not correct .Selam brother,
i think you can not judge that soon, lets talk about it and maybe we will learn from each other in shaa Allah, Peace
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Selam brother,
i think you can not judge that soon, lets talk about it and maybe we will learn from each other in shaa Allah, Peace
Ok .From where you want to start ,lets start from the OP .....At least ,let me hope you can answer me
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Ok .From where you want to start ,lets start from the OP .....At least ,let me hope you can answer me
You judge and think you are a scholar, and Peace to you, maybe one day you will understand why i look down at you for such a behavior
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You judge and think you are a scholar, and Peace to you, maybe one day you will understand why i look down at you for such a behavior
Thank you for your replay .I am not here for fights and insults .don't expect me to throw another insult at you .I am here to learn .I love lot of people here(mazhar bhai,Wakas,reel,imran,Ben.....) and i am happy talking to them .i have learn a lot from them .this forum gives me a platform to reveal my faith and i am much obliged .Thank You ,Bro handshake
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Thank you for your replay .I am not here for fights and insults .don't expect me to throw another insult at you .I am here to learn .I love lot of people here(mazhar bhai,Wakas,reel,imran,Ben.....) and i am happy talking to them .i have learn a lot from them .this forum gives me a platform to reveal my faith and i am much obliged .Thank You ,Bro handshake
We are always friends!
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Peace.
Brother Parvez Mushtaq,
Do you judge in any matter of your deen using any other book other than what is revelation? Because God told us to use only what is revelation from Him, and those who do not do so are 'kaffirs', 'zalimun and 'fasiqun'.
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"Whoso does not judge by that which God has revealed, such are disbelievers (kafirun)"545
"Those who do not judge by what God has sent down are wrongdoers (zalimun)"547
"Those who do not judge by what God has sent down are rebellious (fasiqun)" -
Assalamualaikum Rahamatullahi Wabarakathahu
As I am nearing my 100th post here on FM ,I want to review what has happened here so far.
Firstly , so far none of quranaist (JAQ) has answered the three magical verses from the quran .
1.Verse 2.3
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them,2.Verse 56.13 and 14
A company of the former peoples
And a few from those of later times.- Verse 2.113
And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know not.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608188.msg383622#msg383622
Secondly, they have fail to derive salah from the quran as well as they could not defend themselves against the traditional salah pattern which is being followed by our ancestors down the ages
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608260.msg383728#msg383728
and
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608286.msg384400#msg384400finally , JAQ's could not make me clear the manipulation they made regrading Zakah
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12267.msg384761#msg384761So this is the story so far
the final out come of the above arguments make me very clear that neither salafi(shai) nor the quranist(JAQ) are correct and the true Islam resides somewhere in between the two
Regards
MushtaqWhat do you mean with "between"?
There are just 2 groups..
Group of God.
Group of Satan.
- Verse 2.113
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Assalamualaikum Rahamatullahi Wabarakathahu
As I am nearing my 100th post here on FM ,I want to review what has happened here so far.
Firstly , so far none of quranaist (JAQ) has answered the three magical verses from the quran .
1.Verse 2.3
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them,2.Verse 56.13 and 14
A company of the former peoples
And a few from those of later times.- Verse 2.113
And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know not.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608188.msg383622#msg383622
Secondly, they have fail to derive salah from the quran as well as they could not defend themselves against the traditional salah pattern which is being followed by our ancestors down the ages
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608260.msg383728#msg383728
and
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608286.msg384400#msg384400finally , JAQ's could not make me clear the manipulation they made regrading Zakah
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12267.msg384761#msg384761So this is the story so far
the final out come of the above arguments make me very clear that neither salafi(shai) nor the quranist(JAQ) are correct and the true Islam resides somewhere in between the two
Regards
MushtaqTRUE "ISLAM" CAN ONLY BE FOUND IN THE WORD OF GOD.
- Verse 2.113
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We are always friends!
PeaceYou are welcome ,Reel
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What do you mean with "between"?
There are just 2 groups..
Group of God.
Group of Satan.
Both of them believe in ALLAH subhanvatala and the last day ,their book is Quran .then i don't think any of them are hizba alshshaytan .It is not for us to judge because only ALLAH subhnavatala know the intentions
Peace.
Brother Parvez Mushtaq,
Do you judge in any matter of your deen using any other book other than what is revelation? Because God told us to use only what is revelation from Him, and those who do not do so are 'kaffirs', 'zalimun and 'fasiqun'.
544
"Whoso does not judge by that which God has revealed, such are disbelievers (kafirun)"545
"Those who do not judge by what God has sent down are wrongdoers (zalimun)"547
"Those who do not judge by what God has sent down are rebellious (fasiqun)"TRUE "ISLAM" CAN ONLY BE FOUND IN THE WORD OF GOD.
But rituals not .Quran is a universal book .it accommodates all religions .it will never single out a single ritual
for example can you explain all the masjids of people of AdamVerse 731
O children of Adam, take your adornment at every masjid, and eat and drink, but be not excessive. Indeed, He likes not those who commit excess.