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    Hizbullah
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    Abraham was a prophet so a human having normal life span like humans ,on the other hand brahma is believed to be first 'jiva' he is a 'devta' ,architect who builds all the universe with order from The universal god Parameshvara or the Eternal Para-brahma and also his life span is billions of human years.

    Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities in Hinduism. If you told a fundamentalist Hindu that they were human, he will probably throw slippers at you.

    i think somebody need pyscatrist. may God bless him.

    according to hindus they got 33 million gods including monkey god hanuman,

    So you believe Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities? Now you are going to throw slippers at me just because i believe they are both humans? You must be STAUNCH HINDU. HINDUS ARE IN THE CATEGORY OF SECTARIANS!

    Peace

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      Hizbullah
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      BLUE . lol are you language expert or gabriel come to tecch you after 1432 years.

      RED perfectly suited to you, coz i represent almost all the accepted transaltions where nobody claim what you are claiming by your so called intellegence.

      BROWN , my side its always peace and God bless you. only allah is best and best, rest of the tom dick and harries like you and me do mistakes

      BTW i m not a secterian and this piece of reminder you need it, you are doing cheating and lying about verses not me, becareful .

      I am always careful unlike you sectarian, BLIND FOLLOWER

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        imrankhawaja
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        So you believe Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities? Now you are going to throw slippers at me just because i believe they are both humans? You must be STAUNCH HINDU. HINDUS ARE IN THE CATEGORY OF SECTARIANS!

        Peace

        did i say they are divinities? thats what hindus claim, now you are changing your own statement first you said abraham and brahma are same now accroding to their doctrine they are not same, do you think there are bunch of stupids here, rotfl

        red yeh obviously.

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          imrankhawaja
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          I am always careful unlike you sectarian, BLIND FOLLOWER

          yeh secterians are blind followers , but i m not one of them lol

          whats about you who is not a blind follower but you know you are cheating and lying with verses, and claiming something without a proof, and when you bring your proof it was not on the level of acceptence becoz the other side of your proof is totally different by experts. and then you claim its your personal understaning, wao bravo

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            Hizbullah
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            BLUE . lol are you language expert or gabriel come to tecch you after 1432 years.

            Quran says use your intelligence, which obviously you do not have.

            RED perfectly suited to you, coz i represent almost all the accepted transaltions where nobody claim what you are claiming by your so called intellegence.

            Even if they are wrong?

            BROWN , my side its always peace and God bless you. only allah is best and best, rest of the tom dick and harries like you and me do mistakes

            Off course, that goes without saying, thank you for reminding me!

            BTW i m not a secterian and this piece of reminder you need it, you are doing cheating and lying about verses not me, becareful .

            Am I? What about those who supported the malicious sectarion translators, abusing the correct rendering of the Quran, people like YOU, deviating mankind from the right course! THOSE WHO SUPPORTED THE LIARS THEY ARE ALSO GUILTY OF LYING!

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              imrankhawaja
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              Quran says use your intelligence, which obviously you do not have.

              lol, my intelligence you already check. how do you now whats my iq level? or you are also guessing here on personal grounds ..

              Even if they are wrong?

              yeh they are wrong and your one is correct you have a certification from God , on your certificate it is to certify that mr hizbullah interpret 63. 4 in correct manner , issued by allah, do u have a certificate like this,

              on the contrary do u have a certification that all these translations are wrong,

              both options are open select anyone of it and prove where is the certification or your right and their wrong

              Am I? What about those who supported the malicious sectarion translators, abusing the correct rendering of the Quran, people like YOU, deviating mankind from the right course! THOSE WHO SUPPORTED THE LIARS THEY ARE ALSO GUILTY OF LYING!

              cant you feel funny here, every single words is saying you are lying and trying to distract the original meanings ,
              ooh my goshhhhh where i stuck today rotfl

              you need to get your haircut may be cold air will put some ideas on your bald head, i think evil hairs occupied ur senses lol just a advice ,lol

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                Hizbullah
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                did i say they are divinities? thats what hindus claim, now you are changing your own statement first you said abraham and brahma are same now accroding to their doctrine they are not same, do you think there are bunch of stupids here, rotfl

                red yeh obviously.

                I wrote they were same person not their doctrine...check below

                Abraham and Brahma were one and same person.

                Abraham was a prophet so a human having normal life span like humans ,on the other hand brahma is believed to be first 'jiva' he is a 'devta' ,architect who builds all the universe with order from The universal god Parameshvara or the Eternal Para-brahma and also his life span is billions of human years.

                Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities in Hinduism. If you told a fundamentalist Hindu that they were human, he will probably throw slippers at you.

                i think somebody need pyscatrist. may God bless him.

                according to hindus they got 33 million gods including monkey god hanuman,

                Now everyone knows what kind of a person you are. Thank you so much for exposing yourself!

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                  Now everyone knows what kind of a person you are. Thank you so much for exposing yourself!

                  infact i exposed you, and your stupidity, sorry i mean your intelligence. and alhamdulliah i m successful in it. yay

                  dnt try to apply my science on me , prove it braham and abraham were same person .

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                    Hizbullah
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                    infact i exposed you, and your stupidity, sorry i mean your intelligence. and alhamdulliah i m successful in it. yay

                    dnt try to apply my science on me , prove it braham and abraham were same person .

                    The evidence are all in this thread, read it, but off course, feel free to accept or reject

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                      Abraham was a prophet so a human having normal life span like humans ,on the other hand brahma is believed to be first 'jiva' he is a 'devta' ,architect who builds all the universe with order from The universal god Parameshvara or the Eternal Para-brahma and also his life span is billions of human years.

                      Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities in Hinduism. If you told a fundamentalist Hindu that they were human, he will probably throw slippers at you.

                      i think somebody need pyscatrist. may God bless him.

                      according to hindus they got 33 million gods including monkey god hanuman,

                      thats all what hindus claim and in light of their claim ibraham and braham cant be same,(these ideas are not mine)

                      i was thinking you are stupid but now i change my mind your are very weak in understanding who is adressing who?

                      i make it big

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                        Hizbullah
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                        lol, my intelligence you already check. how do you now whats my iq level? or you are also guessing here on personal grounds ..

                        yeh they are wrong and your one is correct you have a certification from God , on your certificate it is to certify that mr hizbullah interpret 63. 4 in correct manner , issued by allah, do u have a certificate like this,

                        on the contrary do u have a certification that all these translations are wrong,

                        both options are open select anyone of it and prove where is the certification or your right and their wrong

                        cant you feel funny here, every single words is saying you are lying and trying to distract the original meanings ,
                        ooh my goshhhhh where i stuck today rotfl

                        you need to get your haircut may be cold air will put some ideas on your bald head, i think evil hairs occupied ur senses lol just a advice ,lol

                        Relax man, you stressed up, you need a good head message

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                          imrankhawaja
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                          The evidence are all in this thread, read it, but off course, feel free to accept or reject

                          the evidence is based on your personal understanding of interpretation , can you get it passed from authorities so that they write a certification of your perosnal undersrtanding.

                          and ok atleast gather ten votes from this forum who are agree with your understanding, of 63.4

                          again i give you two options , see how generous i m lolxx but you are getiing fail again and again,

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            Relax man, you stressed up, you need a good head message

                            oooh man,,, again you steal my words its not fair, lol

                            i m always relax becoz , stress is on losing side always,

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                              Hizbullah
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                              Abraham was a prophet so a human having normal life span like humans ,on the other hand brahma is believed to be first 'jiva' he is a 'devta' ,architect who builds all the universe with order from The universal god Parameshvara or the Eternal Para-brahma and also his life span is billions of human years.

                              Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities in Hinduism. If you told a fundamentalist Hindu that they were human, he will probably throw slippers at you.

                              i think somebody need pyscatrist. may God bless him.

                              according to hindus they got 33 million gods including monkey god hanuman,

                              thats all what hindus claim and in light of their claim ibraham and braham cant be same,(these ideas are not mine)

                              i was thinking you are stupid but now i change my mind your are very weak in understanding who is adressing who?

                              i make it big

                              Thats what you claimed

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                Thats what you claimed

                                i didnt lol..

                                all that post was the views of hindus regarding their God brahma.

                                and i m alhamdullaih submittor to God alone who dnt beleive in 33 million gods

                                shall i send you my id or documents so that it will be a proof for you i m not hindu, see i m always ready to provide proofs

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                                  Hizbullah
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                                  oooh man,,, again you steal my words its not fair, lol

                                  Its English.....so you wanna claim everything, eh....ok its all yours!

                                  i m always relax becoz , stress is on losing side always,

                                  Are you sure, you dont look like it! Anyways, this thread is all yours...Peace

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                                    Hizbullah
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                                    i didnt lol..

                                    all that post was the views of hindus regarding their God brahma.

                                    and i m alhamdullaih submittor to God alone who dnt beleive in 33 million gods

                                    shall i send you my id or documents so that it will be a proof for you i m not hindu, see i m always ready to provide proofs

                                    No need, you have the right to your believe.... ALL YOURS

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                                      imrankhawaja
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                                      Its English.....so you wanna claim everything, eh....ok its all yours!

                                      Are you sure, you dont look like it! Anyways, this thread is all yours...Peace

                                      RED i was talking about head part thingie , lol not about english see you lose ur senses, get your hair cut

                                      BLUE nothing is mine brother,

                                      everthing belongs to GOD alone me you this thread winning losing , we are just players in a big game , and all the times games cannnot be successful the example of rashad khalifa is infront of you,

                                      peace

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                                        BROWN , my side its always peace and God bless you. only allah is best and best, rest of the tom dick and harries like you and me do mistakes

                                        I am always careful unlike you sectarian, BLIND FOLLOWER

                                        ...use your intelligence, which obviously you do not have.

                                        ...people like YOU, deviating mankind from the right course!...

                                        infact i exposed you, and your stupidity, sorry i mean your intelligence. and alhamdulliah i m successful in it. yay

                                        dnt try to apply my science on me , prove it braham and abraham were same person .

                                        Have you guys read http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8177.0 ?

                                        If yes, then read again, if not, I suggest you do so, carefully. This personal stuff needs to stay out. You have been warned.

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                                          first tell me according to your understanind who muhammad is? where was he? or it was not a muhammad at all? forget about any history of muslims or christians , just anlyse it and i m sure you already research about it, so share ur understanding of muhammad with me, then we will proceed talk in a manner we both understand.

                                          Hi,

                                          The information I have about a certain Mohammed is like anyone else only from the ahadith.

                                          • From my own research, the word "mohammed" in the quran is not a name.
                                          • Even if it was a name then it still can not be proved that the Mohammed mentioned in the quran is also the receiver of the book.
                                          • Even if it was a name then there is absolutly nothing in the quran that would hint that he lived in somewhere in the middle east 1400 years ago.

                                          For me the traditional theory, thus a man named Mohammed who lived 1400 years ago in mecca who received the quran, is a likely as a woman named Sof?a who lived 3000 years ago in Cadiz who received the quran.

                                          noah ark is also mention in quran , and history verify it, soddom and gomorrah, and lot of other things , are in perfec t harmony with quran , but we always doubt about the refferd person of book at that time he was present there so it must be something that raise questions regarding his personality. may be you are not getting what i try to say i make it simple,

                                          I don't think history verifies Noah or Sodom.

                                          let say today 2016 ad a messenger X comes up with live miracles and its sure its from God and tells us the stories of old including muhammad what he done where was he , how he wirte and collect quran, and after 1400 years, in 3400 ad we will ask who was x there is nothing mention about him in the book what he given us, we need to see wikipedia todays tenology that is recording the records of individual, can we rely on wikipedia we all know how its works,

                                          mr x God mention four time in new quran and now we have nothing to prove who was mr x,

                                          the present tense and past tense are in different sturucture, when quran was revelaing prophet was present, gabriel didnnot directly hand over this quran to humanity i think.

                                          I am not sure if I understood what you are trying to say.

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