Have you seen God?
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357 here we go again, you ask a question and sit back and watch forum
members make fools of themselves. Of course no one has seen Allah,
not Moses, Muhammad, Jesus, Abraham, Isaiah or Job. So why are you asking
us such a question. hmmMan of faith, Good Logic, hawk99
well i do think you can see his effects sometimes through us and other times through other things.
Once i was so down (about 35 years ago)i went out to jump off a building , but only remembered six months down the road that i was missing that part of my memory - what ever happened when i went out.
Once in Pakistan i was sick and in bed, at night i had to go to the loo which was outside in the yard, being a summer night people where sleeping on beds in the yard as i was coming back to my room i saw my wife in bed with her brother - could be very innocent, but being very religious i got the shock of my life although they didn't see me i imagined all sorts of things when i got back to my room. I couldn't get it out of my mind, my mind was so pressurized as though it would explode.At that moment the glass of a vacume flask flask that was on the shelf exploded , the bang was so loud every body sleeping from the outside yard came running to see - obviously after wards went back to their beds and i explained to my wife what i saw and she reassured me somewhat that they had met after a long time and it was all innocent.
Sorry but i certainly don't believe in mind over matter and stuff.
There have been many other incidents i believe i have seen allah as well he has helped me many a time i believe.
I think may be we have all seen him but define him differently.
peace
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Man of faith, Good Logic, hawk99
well i do think you can see his effects sometimes through us and other times through other things.
peace
Peace 357, we can indeed see his creation, but not the creator of creation.
6/103 Vision comprehends Him not, and He comprehends vision; and He is the Knower of subtleties, the Aware.
peace
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Peace 357, we can indeed see his creation, but not the creator of creation.
6/103 Vision comprehends Him not, and He comprehends vision; and He is the Knower of subtleties, the Aware.
peace
There are many companies where the workers have never met the owner and never seen him but we do believe a certain person is the owner, same way we may not have seen God physically but have seen his presence so believe he exists
peace
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I agree with this.
There are many companies where the workers have never met the owner and never seen him but we do believe a certain person is the owner, same way we may not have seen God physically
(pay attention to your own words)
but have seen his presence so believe he exists
Again, we do not "see" Allah, what we "see" is his creation so we know he exists.
peace & God bless you
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We can see the "vibration" of God's presence, the consequential energetic affection. But God has no physical form and is hence invisible. It does not make it impossible to know God is manipulating the spatial environment where you are in order to communicate.
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@ mof
u didnt replied my post 15,
peace
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Imran,
I was just idle in my room and then suddenly a strange light began to emit without any apparently visible source. I looked out of the window and the perimeter around the whole house was also covered in that strange light. Then the power surge increased further and the light bulb began to flicker and lightning came out of the electric outlets. At the moment I began to freak out so I left the room, but the power surge seemed focused on me and as I went past the kitchen the phone began ringing too just like that.
After that I had the encounter with thoughts implanted into my mind and soon I fell asleep and woke up many hours later in my bed. My life has also not been the same after that and a special one.
Just as I did you probably would think I dreamed or was hallucinating, but there were many signs left after the event such as a broken phone, lamp bulb and fuse in the basement. If these things had not occurred I would not have thought I really experienced the stuff.
Be well
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@ ammanuel
human being have a deep relation with their lord, about you experience i cannot accept or denied anything as i was not there and i have no knowledge regarding unseen but its quite interesting , and i also have some paranormal experience in my life but not in that way, like i did not see physical symtoms how you describe, i just feel , sometimes ii was researching on a topic from so long and i feel some strange and scary sound suddenly come in my ears and i feel so afraid i run away from my room, and sometimes i feel somebody presence with me,
but again God is omnipresent and every order and commmand directly conveyed to us from lord, with the hellp of angles, or whatever source , but the ultimate source is God, only you can figure it out what you really saw , no doubt whatever you saw happend due to command and will of God ,
aboout Allah i have nothing to describe , as deep i think about God , more i confuse about the nature of God, its better not to think so deep , because we cannot calculate with this limited knowledge i think so far,
peace and good day
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I know what I experienced, Imran. I understand you cannot know since you were not there.
Regarding your and everyone else's faith I cannot force you to change your perception nor am I trying, but yet I am trying rhetorically to make people reflect. I know, but I can yet not prove anything because the evidence is only in my mere words, the only way is to build up confidence in some way.
But for me it would obviously not matter whether I convince anyone or not, but at the same time I pity people for being misinformed regarding matters of God/Rabb, so I keep myself involved on pages where people seem at least prospective. The "guilty" for all that are fanatical clerics and scholars who have had authority for a long time and believed so much in their inaccuracy that they believed it themselves and made others take it as absolutely truthful dogma, but it does not help anyone to manage everything, pass along, pass the test.
First is that God/Rabb imposed on us all a test, in the form of a contradiction which is this world and the bodies we are attached to with our Nafs. The easiest way of saying it is to say one should not identify themselves with the bodies. The Decree, the directives, were compiled as a remedy to avoid its impulses (primitive instinctive signals).
When I speak of this as a subject in the forum people take me for an extremist. Abstention is a sensitive topic. But the important thing is to understand it in the right light. It is not for the abstention itself or obedience to God/Rabb but for one's own sanity (al-asalam). Without abstention and distance to the body it is very easy to simply get absorbed without noticing it yourself, chasing vanity and irrelevant matters following Satan (the instinct - the drive to 'enter firmly' - see Shiin-Tay-Nun).
Be well
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i think lem me clear you something, i can beleive what u saw and what u described to me, but if it was definately God then its something we me you are not sure, there are lot of creations apart from human beings who have created from energy,light , fire , every creation have their limits, like flying, invisisbility, speed, velocity, mass ,
and their set of rules depend on the material from which they created , as we know we created from dust so dust cannot be vanish, dust cannot run so fast , and dust have little properties than energy. for us the things done by ,jinn angles, demons, extra terrestrial, aliens every body else, are suppose to a miracle becoz simply we cannot perform it,
so if somebody or some creation did it in your place its not hard to beleive. think like this angle, i m just trying to figure out what actually you saw now a days i m watching documentries lot of them indicates same events what you describle,
for reference some of the shows i ll tell you,
ufo unsealed files
unseealed aliens files revelead
ancient aliens,
aliens encounter,History chanel and national geographic channel are brooadcassting these shows now a days
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The Russell Cosmogony is a new concept of the universe, explaining the relationships between matter and energy, and between electricity and magnetism. It describes the process of Creation, the nature of atomic and stellar systems, the Natural Laws that govern the universe (The Voidance Principle, the Law of Balance, etc.), and man's relation to God and the universe. An engineer who learned of the Russell Cosmogony in 1930 commented, "If Russell's theories are sound, they will be of utmost value, as he shows that there can be but one substance, and that the difference is a dimensional difference and not a difference of substance. In other words, if Russell's theories are right, transmutation can be reduced to a practical reality."
Russell wrote that "the cardinal error of science" is "shutting the Creator out of his Creation." Russell never referred to an anthropomorphic god, but rather wrote that "God is the invisible, motionless, sexless, undivided, and unconditioned white Magnetic Light of Mind" which centers all things. "God is provable by laboratory methods," Russell wrote, "The locatable motionless Light which man calls magnetism is the Light which God IS." He wrote that Religion and Science must come together in a New Age.
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Russell2435 35. God is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The allegory of His light is that of a pillar on which is a lamp. The lamp is within a glass. The glass is like a brilliant planet, fueled by a blessed tree, an olive tree, neither eastern nor western. Its oil would almost illuminate, even if no fire has touched it. Light upon Light. God guides to His light whomever He wills. God thus cites the parables for the people. God is cognizant of everything.
http//www.clearquran.com/024.html -
Imran,
I am sure about my experiences.
Be well
Amenuel -
Peace IAMOP,
The Russell Cosmogony is a new concept of the universe, explaining the relationships between matter and energy, and between electricity and magnetism. It describes the process of Creation, the nature of atomic and stellar systems, the Natural Laws that govern the universe (The Voidance Principle, the Law of Balance, etc.), and man's relation to God and the universe. An engineer who learned of the Russell Cosmogony in 1930 commented, "If Russell's theories are sound, they will be of utmost value, as he shows that there can be but one substance, and that the difference is a dimensional difference and not a difference of substance. In other words, if Russell's theories are right, transmutation can be reduced to a practical reality."
Russell wrote that "the cardinal error of science" is "shutting the Creator out of his Creation." Russell never referred to an anthropomorphic god, but rather wrote that "God is the invisible, motionless, sexless, undivided, and unconditioned white Magnetic Light of Mind" which centers all things. "God is provable by laboratory methods," Russell wrote, "The locatable motionless Light which man calls magnetism is the Light which God IS." He wrote that Religion and Science must come together in a New Age.
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Russell2435 35. God is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The allegory of His light is that of a pillar on which is a lamp. The lamp is within a glass. The glass is like a brilliant planet, fueled by a blessed tree, an olive tree, neither eastern nor western. Its oil would almost illuminate, even if no fire has touched it. Light upon Light. God guides to His light whomever He wills. God thus cites the parables for the people. God is cognizant of everything.
http//www.clearquran.com/024.htmlInteresting post. And good analysis and comparison with verse 2435 in Al-Quran.
Since you seem to be in favor of a scientific approach to the Quran, I would like to share a post with you.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603306.msg290240#msg290240
Hopefully you will find the quote and the link in the above-mentioned post interesting and/or useful.
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Since you seem to be in favor of a scientific approach to the Quran, I would like to share a post with you.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603306.msg290240#msg290240
Sorry, wrong link. Here is the correct link.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16837.msg381325#msg381325
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@ tara
there is another link in that post which one you are on about exactly?