Is God Love?
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Compulsive behaviour is not sound, and compulsive Qur'an bashing is not sound either. Those who suffer from that kind of thing should try to address thier own problems, bashing the Qur'an or whatevr ele is not going to solve them.
And ppeople are not idiots, they can recognize wisdom, compulsive beehaviour, bitterness, rage... every thing can be easily recognized.
Salaam
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Salam
I wish someone would help me understand that God is love not fear. I'm always scared that I will be punished if I don't pray or read the Koran or do this or that. Any verses in the Koran pertaining to love?
I have been a follower of Quran for about 2.5 years. So far this is what I have understood
Nothing comes for free. If we want love from God we have to learn to love genuinely, for he knows when we are artificial. Loving God does not mean praising him all throughout the day , but being humble. Of course, falling in love with God can't stop the mouth from praising. It, however, is not his need. Anyways, this verse pretty much sums up everything
O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion ? Allah will bring forth a people He will love and who will love Him humble toward the believers, powerful against the disbelievers; they strive in the cause of Allah and do not fear the blame of a critic. That is the favor of Allah; He bestows it upon whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.554
The toughest thing for a human is to be humble.
I say "date" God.
Get to know him but not like a narcissist who usually says prove to me why I should love and care about you. Use the brain and never separate him from reality.
Don't read the Quran. Instead try to understand its verses and apply them in your everyday life. Have faith in him and be self aware (reflect). Truth is that inner self plays a role in determining what happens to us.
That is because Allah would not change a favor which He had bestowed upon a people until they change what is within themselves. And indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing.853
peace
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Imran,
The Arabic you know and that millions of people know was distorted by malicious clerics, it is bogus and incorrect.
Arabic words basically have only one general meaning and not several different. They speak from their letters which in formation make up words. In case you at least loosely know what each letter means you can know what any unknown word would imply merely by listening to it and reflecting.
Evidence is in the eye of the beholder of course and it is a tough seat with me versus millions of people including so-called language experts (linguists). My knowledge comes from spending countless hours on deciphering Quran and comparing words against ancient Arabic lexicons and the result has been that I found another interpretation which does also form a coherent discourse which in addition sounds incredibly intelligible and more advanced than the standard primitive Quran version which you know of already and which story does not hold up even against simple logic, but become hyped due to the religious context.
I am however not playing with fire. Rabb has given approval and conveyed that "they will come". And also that "No one has interpreted Quran" about one year ago. Quran is a not previously interpreted scripture even if you might believe so.
Be Well
Amenuel -
MOF I am 100% interested in what you claim you have learned. I also spent time comparing words against Arabic Lexicons. However I arrive at what is seemingly a different general interpretation of the Quran from you. Please Amenuel tell me what have you done differently. What do you utilize to interpret verses can you please share with me? I know I've asked before about Taj Arroos but share with me your actual methods
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ok forget about the arabic,
lets talk about language first,
one means single in english. (australia, uk , america ,southafrica) from east to west in all english languages old new one mean one it cant be two,in my language urdu awal mean one, in arabic awal mean one,
from east to west all arab countires know awal mean one or first, it cant be 2.just dnt need to go into to deatil just simple logic 2 +2= 4
and shall i tell one more interesting thing about the language of quran, here you go its quran from which every grammer, literature ,poetry, and language filter, if any arab country have a mistake in their language its quran llanguage that correct it, becoz as far i beleive its the supreme peice of language. by supreme being.
thats the beauty of quran from quran arabic get mature and advance and a lingual shape,
the lexcion, and other stuff hold no water whatsoever as we know its quran that give a birth to the language of the people who use to rule camels in deserts, think about it, it quran who is holding arabic ,
your claim is same in sense of language what most hadith people claim, they try to filter quran through hadith, and they failed.
you are trying to filter quran through arabic, you will not get any result, yeh you can filter arabic through quran then you will be able to write a master piece of langauge.
again,
I am however not playing with fire. Rabb has given approval and conveyed that "they will come". And also that "No one has interpreted Quran" about one year ago. Quran is a not previously interpreted scripture even if you might believe so.dnt try to be a rashid khalifa, he already interpreted the quran and see what happened with him,
before one year it was not interpreted,
who will come by the way ,
lot of more questions but before asking all this,
i would like to see the work you did on interpretation , whatevr it is, i m not saying you wrong but i neeed to see evidence of your workk with references if i need to believe on your logic so kindly refer it to me, if you really think its atreasure to be share , dnt be a snake on that treasure and spread it to the peoplle who deserve it.peace
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the lexcion, and other stuff hold no water whatsoever as we know its quran that give a birth to the language of the people who use to rule camels in deserts, think about it it quran who is holding arabic ,
Lexicons (hopefully) contain corpus on how a language has historically been used and hidden within them are usually definitions more suitable for most occurrences in Quran. Someone or some people simply made their own linguistic version of what Quran is supposed to say and in more or less every Arabic lexicons from the past there is false input into it, for an obvious reason which is Quran and a branch of a language developed from it.
Like I wrote before several times is that one Arabic word does have only one general meaning and then it is illogical that one would find a myriad of definitions within a lexicon.
you are trying to filter quran through arabic, you will not get any result, yeh you can filter arabic through quran then you will be able to write a master piece of langauge.
Well, the ancient interpreters thought they "wrote" a masterpiece of a language and they filtered Quran heavily influenced by their religious doctrine. Actually they forced Quran to have a religious ritual and other elements, they needed it or their religion/sect would be inconsistent with it.
But verily I have gotten results from what I am doing right now. A very intelligible discourse has emerged and I am not forcing it to take shape but that is exactly what Quran is telling, i.e. my resulting rendition is a result of making the original Arabic come forth in its real form.
If you say I get no results that is your opinion. We are allowed to think a certain way, but whether something is evidence or not is in the eye of the beholder.
lot of more questions but before asking all this,
i would like to see the work you did on interpretation , whatevr it is, i m not saying you wrong but i neeed to see evidence of your workk with references if i need to believe on your logic so kindly refer it to me, if you really think its atreasure to be share , dnt be a snake on that treasure and spread it to the peoplle who deserve it.In time you will see. It is a work in progress and just like any other project it cannot be finished with all details while it is undergoing. Because I know I will encounter people like you I am preparing it with a documented file containing thorough explanations on why the project reached certain conclusions regarding words.
Besides the outcome of the research, evidence is in what I say and how much sense it makes and that is confirmed by the one who can actually see my reinterpretation is correct. I argue with my basis in logic and anyone who does can make many breakthroughs. For example, how logically plausible is it with an eternal Hell? And what kind of mentality does it give a deity? The only answer is that the deity is incredibly primitive.
Besides that, I have pointed out problems with the understanding of 'angels' and that they are lacking free will and other things such as being made of fire. It would be logically fallacious to claim an angel is lacking will when its word for angel means 'ruler'. That must be the most worthless ruler I have ever seen since ruling is dependent on one's ability to make decisions.
Be well
Amenuel -
@ ammanuel
i would like to talk wih you live its would be quite interesting , if you dnt mind send me you skype details or whatsapp anything, and then we will talk about the project , see i m not dennying anything , i just want to know , what i dont know,
be well
imran -
Regarding individual Arabic words those proper definitions are usually hidden between stockpiles of corpus discourse, often nonsensical such.
An example is what is interpreted as forever/eternity could actually mean continually without interruption but not mean eternity.
Another example is the word which is not more complicated than that you have the definite AL article/prefix with third-person singular on it, but it is interpreted as a deity. It literally means 'the (one) who is' and is meant to be semantically used within a discourse. is a similar structure 'the (one) as such as who is'. In lexicons what I wrote about can be found under the Alif-Lam-(Lam) root. Allah stems from the AL word and indicates a certain state of being with or without the addition of an adjective following it. If you just say 'the Being' you get a fair definition of what Allah linguistically means.
My argumentation regarding (la) lacks evidence points from lexicons while it something I have figured out after extensive discourse analysis. If I found solid textual corpus data for my argumentation I could knock down the traditional sectarian one completely, but now it is based on logical deduction. A remnant from Arabic is found within modern Spanish where the language uses 'el' and 'la', and La does not mean not there. does mean 'to be' och 'which is' in real Arabic. And is the word meaning 'not', all the time, rather than sometimes 'what' as in the traditional old understanding.
And (an) is quite similar to 'it is' in English, it can be used to say 'if' too because you can give condition with it. It morphologically means 'Be integrity' and can explain why, i.e "be the case" bla bla...
Be well
Amenuel -
He is the One God; there is no other god beside Him. To Him belongs all praise in this first life, and in the Hereafter. All judgment belongs with Him, and to Him you will be returned.
The One who created you, designed you, and perfected you.
He is the One who initiates and repeats.
He is the One who shapes you in the wombs as He wills. There is no other god besides Him; the Almighty, Most Wise.
The One who created death and life for the purpose of distinguishing those among you who would do better.* He is the Almighty, the Forgiving.
God is the One who sent down the scripture, to deliver the truth and the law. For all that you know, the Hour (Day of Judgment) may be very close.
He is the One who helps you, together with His angels, to lead you out of darkness into the light. He is Most Merciful towards the believers.
He is the One who makes you laugh or cry.
He is the One who accepts the repentance from His servants, and remits the sins. He is fully aware of everything you do.
He is the One who created the heavens and the earth, truthfully. Whenever He says, "Be," it is. His word is the absolute truth. All sovereignty belongs to Him the day the horn is blown. Knower of all secrets and declarations, He is the Most Wise, the Cognizant.
He is the One who continuously shows you His proofs, and sends down to you from the sky provisions. Only those who totally submit will be able to take heed.
The One who made the earth habitable for you, and the sky a structure. He sends down from the sky water, to produce all kinds of fruits for your sustenance. You shall not set up idols to rival God, now that you know.
God is the One who causes the grains and the seeds to crack and germinate. He produces the living from the dead, and the dead from the living. Such is God; how could you deviate!
At the crack of dawn, He causes the morning to emerge. He made the night still, and He rendered the sun and the moon to serve as calculation devices. Such is the design of the Almighty, the Omniscient.
And He is the One who made the stars to guide you during the darkness, on land and on sea. We thus clarify the revelations for people whoknow.He initiated you from one person, and decided your path, as well as your final destiny. We thus clarify the revelations for people who understand.
He is the One who sends down from the sky water, whereby we produce all kinds of plants. We produce from the green material multitudes of complex grains, palm trees with hanging clusters, and gardens of grapes, olives and pomegranate; fruits that are similar, yet dissimilar. Note their fruits as they grow and ripen. These are signs for people who believe.To Him belongs the kingship of the heavens and the earth. He controls life and death. He is Omnipotent.
He is the Alpha and the Omega. He is the Outermost and the Innermost. He is fully aware of all things.He is the One who created the heavens and the earth in six days,* then assumed all authority. He knows everything that enters into the earth, and everything that comes out of it, and everything that comes down from the sky, and everything that climbs into it. He is with you wherever you may be. God is Seer of everything you do.
He is the One who designed the night to be a cover, and for you to sleep and rest. And He made the day a resurrection.
He is the One who sends the winds with good omens of His mercy, and we send down from the sky pure water.He is the One who merges the two seas; one is fresh and palatable, while the other is salty and undrinkable. And He separated them with a formidable, inviolable barrier (evaporation).
Most blessed is the One who placed constellations in the sky, and placed in it a lamp, and a shining moon.
He is the One who designed the night and the day to alternate a sufficient proof for those who wish to take heed, or to be appreciative.Forgiver of sins, acceptor of repentance, strict in enforcing retribution, and possessor of all power. There is no other god beside Him. To Him is the ultimate destiny.
Possessor of the highest ranks, and Ruler of the whole dominion. He sends inspiration, bearing His commands, to whomever He chooses from among His servants, to warn about the Day of Summoning.
Possessor of all authority. From His highest height. Such is God your Lord, the Creator of all things. There is no god except He. How could you deviate?
Quran 4064] God is the One who rendered the earth habitable for you, and the sky a formidable structure, and He designed you, and designed you well. He is the One who provides you with good provisions.* Such is God your Lord; Most Exalted is God, Lord of the universe.
He is the Living; there is no god except He. You shall worship Him alone, devoting your religion absolutely to Him alone. Praise be to God, Lord of the universe.God is the One who created the livestock for you; some you ride, and some you eat.
God is the One who raised the heavens without pillars that you can see, then assumed all authority. He committed the sun and the moon, each running (in its orbit) for a predetermined period. He controls all things, and explains the revelations, that you may attain certainty about meeting your Lord.
He is the One who constructed the earth and placed on it mountains and rivers. And from the different kinds of fruits, He made them into pairs - males and females. The night overtakes the day. These are solid proofs for people who think.
He is the One who shows you the lightning as a source of fear, as well as hope, and He initiates the loaded clouds.
God is the One who increases the provision for whomever He wills, or withholds it. They have become preoccupied with this life; and this life, compared to the Hereafter, is nil.
And He is the One who initiates the creation, then repeats it; this is even easier for Him. To Him belongs the most sublime similitude, in the heavens and the earth, and He is the Almighty, Most Wise.God is the One who created you weak, then granted you after the weakness strength, then substituted after the strength weakness and gray hair. He creates whatever He wills. He is the Omniscient, the Omnipotent.
God is the One who created the heavens and the earth, and He sends down from the sky water to produce all kinds of fruit for your sustenance. He has committed the ships to serve you on the sea in accordance with His command. He has committed the rivers as well to serve you.
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He is the One who created for you everything on earth, then turned to the sky and perfected seven universes therein,* and He is fully aware of all things.
Most exalted is God, the true Sovereign. There is no other god beside Him; the Most Honorable Lord, possessor of all authority.
He is the One who created you from mud, then predetermined your life span, a life span that is known only to Him. Yet, you continue to doubt.
He is the One God in the heavens and the earth. He knows your secrets and your declarations, and He knows everything you earn.He is the One who puts you to death during the night, and knows even the smallest of your actions during the day. He resurrects you every morning, until your life span is fulfilled, then to Him is your ultimate return. He will then inform you of everything you had done.
He is the One who made you inheritors of the earth, and He raised some of you above others in rank, in order to test you in accordance with what He has given you. Surely, your Lord is efficient in enforcing retribution, and He is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
He is the One who created all kinds, in pairs (male and female), and He created for you ships and livestock to ride.
Be He glorified; He is the Lord of the heavens and the earth, the Lord with the great dominion, far above their claims.
He is the only One who is a deity in the heaven and a deity on earth. He is the Most Wise, the Omniscient.
Most Exalted is the One who possesses all sovereignty of the heavens and the earth, and everything between them. With Him is the knowledge about the Hour (end of the world), and to Him you will be returned.
To Him is your ultimate return, all of you. This is God's truthful promise. He initiates the creation, then repeats it, in order to reward those who believe and lead a righteous life, equitably. As for those who disbelieve, they incur hellish drinks, and a painful retribution for their disbelieving.
He is the One who rendered the sun radiant, and the moon a light, and He designed its phases that you may learn to count the years and to calculate. God did not create all this, except for a specific purpose. He explains the revelations for people who know. He is the One who rendered the night for your rest, and rendered the day lighted. These are proofs for people who can hear.
Glory be to the One who created all kinds of plants from the earth, as well as themselves, and other creations that they do not even know.
God there is no other god besides Him, the Living, the Eternal. Never a moment of unawareness or slumber overtakes Him. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. Who could intercede with Him, except in accordance with His will? He knows their past, and their future. No one attains any knowledge, except as He wills. His dominion encompasses the heavens and the earth, and ruling them never burdens Him. He is the Most High, the Great.
He is the One God in the heavens and the earth. He knows your secrets and your declarations, and He knows everything you earn.
God is the One who created you. He is the One who provides for you. He is the One who puts you to death. He is the One who resurrects you. Can any of your idols do any of these things? Be He glorified. He is much too exalted to have any partners.
He merges the night into the day, and merges the day into the night. He has committed the sun and the moon to run for a predetermined period of time. Such is God your Lord; to Him belongs all kingship. Any idols you set up beside Him do not possess as much as a seed's shell.
..."He is the One and only God.
"The Absolute God.
"Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten.
"None equals Him."He is the One God; there is no other god beside Him. Knower of all secrets and declarations. He is the Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
He is the One God; there is no other god beside Him. The King, the Most Sacred, the Peace, the Most Faithful, the Supreme, the Almighty, the Most Powerful, the Most Dignified. God be glorified; far above having partners.
He is the One God; the Creator, the Initiator, the Designer. To Him belong the most beautiful names. Glorifying Him is everything in the heavens and the earth. He is the Almighty, Most Wise.Such is God your Lord, there is no god except He, the Creator of all things. You shall worship Him alone. He is in control of all things.
No visions can encompass Him, but He encompasses all visions. He is the Compassionate, the Cognizant.They do not value God as He should be valued. God is the Most Powerful, the Almighty.
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now knowledge and wisdom of God
if all the trees are pen and all the oceans are the ink ,,,the words of your lord will not run out even if you double the supply of ink...Allah is noble and wise
....sura luqman verse 27
oh my gosshhhhhh ,
and double the supply means , words not run out in double supply as well , tripple, and whatever quantiy subhanallah